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Thank you! I’ve read about the struggles of finding a true black Willis. Sorry you got caught up in that... unless you are pleased with the bag, then the condolences are unnecessary.

Oh, it's not a big deal- I like navy too. It's just a long running joke among us rehabbers on the struggle between Coach's very dark navy and black. No matter which you think you're buying, there's always a chance it's the opposite! :lol:
 
Oh, it's not a big deal- I like navy too. It's just a long running joke among us rehabbers on the struggle between Coach's very dark navy and black. No matter which you think you're buying, there's always a chance it's the opposite! :lol:

I have a “navy” Sullivan and even after a wash and condition I still can’t tell what it’s supposed to be. The inside looks navy but the rest looks black. Your bag looks beautiful even if it’s navy. I think it’s more interesting than the black typically seen.
 
Sure, I have rehabbed several vintage Italian Madison bags and they hold up well to the rehab process. Some of them just needed surface cleaning - like my Beechnut Gracie - but others needed a bath either because they were dirty or misshapen (or both!)

Below are links for the rehabs of my Butter Copley and 2 other vintage Madison bags that I also dunked, a Cherry Red Carlyle and a Forest Green Drake Briefbag. They both did fine with their baths but there are 2 things I've learned about rehabbing vintage Italian Madison and Gramercy bags and wallets:

1) They take several days to dry and you just have to be patient.

2) If you polish the hardware too hard it will loose the brushed finish and turn shiny gold.

Good luck with your Gracie!


Madison Copley 4414, Butter, Italy 1996 and French Purse Wallet 4473, Butter, Italy, 1996 – After: https://forum.purseblog.com/threads/coach-rehab-and-rescue-club.833400/page-1169#post-32540096


Madison Carlyle 4401, Cherry Red, Italy 1994 – Before:
https://forum.purseblog.com/threads/coach-rehab-and-rescue-club.833400/page-1646#post-33532703

Madison Carlyle 4401, Cherry Red, Italy 1994 – After:
https://forum.purseblog.com/threads/coach-rehab-and-rescue-club.833400/page-1646#post-33532733


Drake Briefbag 4420, Forest Green, Italy 1995 - Before:
https://forum.purseblog.com/threads/coach-rehab-and-rescue-club.833400/page-1646#post-33532798

Drake Briefbag 4420, Forest Green, Italy 1995 - After:
https://forum.purseblog.com/threads/coach-rehab-and-rescue-club.833400/page-1646#post-33532882
Alright @katev i will be patient when my Gracie dries. As difficult as that may be for a impatient soul like myself :blah: I really appreciate you responding and your resources!! I’m looking forward to this rehab. I’ve been wanting a more structured bag that Grace Kelly would carry for my fancy days. Can’t go wrong with a bag named Gracie!

I found a wonderful suggestion here about using the rough side of a yellow/green dish sponge on the brushed brass hardware. I am sorry I can't recall who posted it. :sad:

It worked wonders on my Italian bags and did not alter the brushed finish! :tup:

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Hi,
May I ask if a light colour bag like this one will be OK to dunk it? It has some watermarks on it from previous life.
Can someone please tell me if this bag is in British tan or camel colour? I am not familiar with the different shades of brown.View attachment 5164377

Many thanks in advance ☺

There's been quite a bit of discussion regarding dunking bags and spots that crop up on lighter bags (possibly from hard water). To be safe you could try using distilled water in your dunk.

I have continued using regular water and find that any spots usually fade in time.

Your bag appears to be British Tan. If you post a photo of the creed, TPFers with catalogues might be able to post a photo of the colours available for Station Bags that year. :flowers:
 
There's been quite a bit of discussion regarding dunking bags and spots that crop up on lighter bags (possibly from hard water). To be safe you could try using distilled water in your dunk.

I have continued using regular water and find that any spots usually fade in time.

Your bag appears to be British Tan. If you post a photo of the creed, TPFers with catalogues might be able to post a photo of the colours available for Station Bags that year. :flowers:
Thanks. I will use distilled water.
Here is a picture of the creed.
 

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Just as an update, the selling site "Depop" responded to my pictures saying they would be taking my feedback down and said,

"Please know this is not a formal warning, just a friendly reminder to provide clear, honest context in your reviews, keeping feedback as accurate and fair as possible."

:eek:

I'm shocked and I probably shouldn't be. Nice to know they filter their reviews to side with the seller and promote sales. I wrote back a lengthy email, which I'm sure won't make a difference, but just wanted to let them know how dishonest and unfair THEY are being.

If a clawed up bag isn't enough proof, I don't know what is.

This is just too funny... Check out what Depoop Depop replied:

"I fully appreciate your confusion with our decision to remove your feedback so I’d really like to clear that up for you. Please know that we do investigate and review all feedback that is left carefully and thoroughly.

In this case, we didn’t feel that your feedback in its entirety directly went against our Terms of Service or Feedback Removal Policy. However, as we could see the Seller had a negative experience because of it, we did remove it as a gesture of goodwill for them. And we do usually only offer this as a one-time gesture for all of our users - should we feel that a situation has impacted them negatively.

We do make a note of this too, and so any further negative feedback received by the user won't be removed, so that the community can freely see and research any user on the app before transacting with them. I hope this reassures you that we don't have a premeditated aim or motive to purposefully filter negative reviews and remove them to side with either party involved, and it's purely a one-time gesture"

....The seller had a negative experience because of it :lol::roflmfao:
Pretty sure my experience was worse when my bag was wrongly addressed, returned to the seller, took almost a month to arrive, and when it finally arrived it looked like it got in a fight with an angry cat :shrugs:
It's an HONEST negative review.. of course it's going to impact them negatively because their actions warrant a negative consequence.
I also just decided to randomly click on several sellers on Depop to check out their ratings and interestingly enough none of them had less than 5 stars :thinking:

But whatever, liars gon' lie I guess. I recommend shopping on Depop VERY carefully if at all, because if this is the way they act for just a review, I can imagine they wouldn't be too great about honoring refunds through their "Buyer protection" policy either.
 
This is just too funny... Check out what Depoop Depop replied:

"I fully appreciate your confusion with our decision to remove your feedback so I’d really like to clear that up for you. Please know that we do investigate and review all feedback that is left carefully and thoroughly.

In this case, we didn’t feel that your feedback in its entirety directly went against our Terms of Service or Feedback Removal Policy. However, as we could see the Seller had a negative experience because of it, we did remove it as a gesture of goodwill for them. And we do usually only offer this as a one-time gesture for all of our users - should we feel that a situation has impacted them negatively.

We do make a note of this too, and so any further negative feedback received by the user won't be removed, so that the community can freely see and research any user on the app before transacting with them. I hope this reassures you that we don't have a premeditated aim or motive to purposefully filter negative reviews and remove them to side with either party involved, and it's purely a one-time gesture"

....The seller had a negative experience because of it :lol::roflmfao:
Pretty sure my experience was worse when my bag was wrongly addressed, returned to the seller, took almost a month to arrive, and when it finally arrived it looked like it got in a fight with an angry cat :shrugs:
It's an HONEST negative review.. of course it's going to impact them negatively because their actions warrant a negative consequence.
I also just decided to randomly click on several sellers on Depop to check out their ratings and interestingly enough none of them had less than 5 stars :thinking:

But whatever, liars gon' lie I guess. I recommend shopping on Depop VERY carefully if at all, because if this is the way they act for just a review, I can imagine they wouldn't be too great about honoring refunds through their "Buyer protection" policy either.

Wow, that’s unbelievable. Seriously makes me rethink about buying anything off of Depop again.
 
Wow, that’s unbelievable. Seriously makes me rethink about buying anything off of Depop again.

It's a shame because I've had a really good experience on depop up until now. I think you just have to be REALLY careful and try talking to the sellers to get a feel for what they're like. The three other sellers I've purchased from on Depop were amazing, they would answer immediately and were so kind, but this guy... to be honest I was a little unsure since he wouldn't answer my questions regarding the bag, but I figured, "oh what the heck, the pictures look fine, it's cheap, there's buyer protection, this guy is listed as a top seller with five stars, what's the worst that could happen.." :facepalm: I now know pictures don't mean anything, top seller means nothing and everyone has five stars. I feel like I got soooooo lucky that the damage was somehow magically fixed, but I'm definitely not testing my luck on that site anymore.
 
I've just completed another two rehabs; my presumably mid 80s (made in NYC, xxx-xxxx date code and stamped 'solid brass made in USA' hardware) putty(?) Stewardess, and 90s navy Casino. The Casino was quite a simple rehab as I just had to shine up the hardware and remove the coating and the scratches mostly buffed out when I conditioned it. I applied layers of conditioner while wet this time on both bags this time and it left a sumptuous finish for my layer of Renapur. I also shined them up with my brush. The Stewardess was very smooshy and covered in a fine waxy powder when she arrived. She also had an ink stain! It is still there but it has faded a lot with rehab, and with the patina and fat lines on the front it kind of blends in and doesn't bother me now. I love the solid brass hardware, I find it has shined up easier than the plated hardware. She was quite difficult to reshape but I think I have managed it okay.

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Coming up next on my rehabs are my Tribeca flap with rather disappointingly turned out to be mahogany rather than toffee and redoing my bags which seem a little dry and could do with the new conditioning method. I am also thinking of adding a BT Station bag to my collection and possibly a soho top handle I have yet to authenticate. I am glad to be enjoying this hobby again after my disappointing green daypack and I am looking forward to seeing what bags make their way over the pond to add to my collection.
 
I've just completed another two rehabs; my presumably mid 80s (made in NYC, xxx-xxxx date code and stamped 'solid brass made in USA' hardware) putty(?) Stewardess, and 90s navy Casino. The Casino was quite a simple rehab as I just had to shine up the hardware and remove the coating and the scratches mostly buffed out when I conditioned it. I applied layers of conditioner while wet this time on both bags this time and it left a sumptuous finish for my layer of Renapur. I also shined them up with my brush. The Stewardess was very smooshy and covered in a fine waxy powder when she arrived. She also had an ink stain! It is still there but it has faded a lot with rehab, and with the patina and fat lines on the front it kind of blends in and doesn't bother me now. I love the solid brass hardware, I find it has shined up easier than the plated hardware. She was quite difficult to reshape but I think I have managed it okay.

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Coming up next on my rehabs are my Tribeca flap with rather disappointingly turned out to be mahogany rather than toffee and redoing my bags which seem a little dry and could do with the new conditioning method. I am also thinking of adding a BT Station bag to my collection and possibly a soho top handle I have yet to authenticate. I am glad to be enjoying this hobby again after my disappointing green daypack and I am looking forward to seeing what bags make their way over the pond to add to my collection.
I love the color the stewardess turned out to be! It's an amazing transformation.
 
I've just completed another two rehabs; my presumably mid 80s (made in NYC, xxx-xxxx date code and stamped 'solid brass made in USA' hardware) putty(?) Stewardess, and 90s navy Casino. The Casino was quite a simple rehab as I just had to shine up the hardware and remove the coating and the scratches mostly buffed out when I conditioned it. I applied layers of conditioner while wet this time on both bags this time and it left a sumptuous finish for my layer of Renapur. I also shined them up with my brush. The Stewardess was very smooshy and covered in a fine waxy powder when she arrived. She also had an ink stain! It is still there but it has faded a lot with rehab, and with the patina and fat lines on the front it kind of blends in and doesn't bother me now. I love the solid brass hardware, I find it has shined up easier than the plated hardware. She was quite difficult to reshape but I think I have managed it okay.

Before:

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Coming up next on my rehabs are my Tribeca flap with rather disappointingly turned out to be mahogany rather than toffee and redoing my bags which seem a little dry and could do with the new conditioning method. I am also thinking of adding a BT Station bag to my collection and possibly a soho top handle I have yet to authenticate. I am glad to be enjoying this hobby again after my disappointing green daypack and I am looking forward to seeing what bags make their way over the pond to add to my collection.

Hard to believe those are the same bags in the before and after pics! You did a great job, they’re gorgeous:loveeyes:

What happened with your green daypack? I totally understand the feeling when a rehab doesn't go well, I've thrown in the towel a couple of times already but these bags always reel me back in :facepalm:
 
I've just completed another two rehabs; my presumably mid 80s (made in NYC, xxx-xxxx date code and stamped 'solid brass made in USA' hardware) putty(?) Stewardess, and 90s navy Casino. The Casino was quite a simple rehab as I just had to shine up the hardware and remove the coating and the scratches mostly buffed out when I conditioned it. I applied layers of conditioner while wet this time on both bags this time and it left a sumptuous finish for my layer of Renapur. I also shined them up with my brush. The Stewardess was very smooshy and covered in a fine waxy powder when she arrived. She also had an ink stain! It is still there but it has faded a lot with rehab, and with the patina and fat lines on the front it kind of blends in and doesn't bother me now. I love the solid brass hardware, I find it has shined up easier than the plated hardware. She was quite difficult to reshape but I think I have managed it okay.

Before:

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After:

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Coming up next on my rehabs are my Tribeca flap with rather disappointingly turned out to be mahogany rather than toffee and redoing my bags which seem a little dry and could do with the new conditioning method. I am also thinking of adding a BT Station bag to my collection and possibly a soho top handle I have yet to authenticate. I am glad to be enjoying this hobby again after my disappointing green daypack and I am looking forward to seeing what bags make their way over the pond to add to my collection.
Nice Casino! I know what you mean about the colour - I'd choose toffee over mahogany any day.
 
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