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Amazing transformation! You gave that bag a second change at life lol! Why was the return unsuccessful? Is Etsy’s return policy different?
Etsy's seems more sided with seller. I posted the same bag rehab last April, went back again and realized my memory was wrong, it was not came to me painted, I painted it myself after unable to return it. Here is the link to the old post.
ETA: only the full bag image was from listing, the rest I took screen shot from my other post on April 1st last year. The main reason of return was the undisclosed D ring damage, which was carefully not pictured in listing. Also the whole bag in person was way worse than listing photos.
 
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Etsy's seems more sided with seller. I posted the same bag rehab lat April, went back again and realized my memory was wrong, it was not came to me painted, I painted it myself after unable to return it. Here is the link to the old post.

I joined last May so I never saw it. Wow that bag looked horrific before lol. If you paid with Paypal you could have opened a dispute with them even if Etsy sided with the seller. What a shady seller, hope you didn’t spend too much on it!
 
Tried edge burnishing on Coach handle before, but was using wrong burnish agent and didn’t work(gum or bee wax works great on veg tanned leather, not chrome tanned). This time I used Tokonole, really like how the handle turned out. For comparison, first 2 photos from side without burnishing, 3&4 photos edge burnished.
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Not clear coat, just a method to compress and dense leather fibre, so they will have a smooth surface, and looks more finished.
Apply a thin coat of Tokonole on the edge, then use wood slicker lightly rub the edge back and forth, slow at first, till the fibre start to lay down, then you can increase the speed of movement. Do not put too much pressure, otherwise may misshapen the edge. It is the heat of friction together with Tokonole to achieve the burnished effect. Lots of vedios on YouTube.
ETA: only use ToKonole, you may see other material used on YouTube vedios, but those only work on veg tanned leather. My court bag looks really polished with it’s burnished handle. I don’t even recognize her myself compare with the before photo. It was a bad buy from Etsy that I tried to return but unsuccessful. She came to me painted with lots colour loss in the pipping. I stripped the paint, dyed it with Navy pro dye.

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@LunaSilver you do fantastic work, WOW!!!
 
I joined last May so I never saw it. Wow that bag looked horrific before lol. If you paid with Paypal you could have opened a dispute with them even if Etsy sided with the seller. What a shady seller, hope you didn’t spend too much on it!
At that time I didn't know I can file dispute with PayPal. It cost me $75 CAD with shipping. Not exactly cheap, considering the condition of bag.
 
While browsing the forum and having coffee, my sweetest cat is sleeping in her favorite bed- my right arm...lol
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A typical Sunday morning browsing the forum for us as well.... I don't think mine are as photogenic as yours though. They both look like they have hangovers.
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(An older photo not from this morning)
 
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I would guess they were sourced from different companies. Maybe one is trademarked. Neat little details. Some of the bags fro the late 70s and early 80s have zippers from different companies.
I believe they are both trademarked, "bead" and "ball" chains.

From my notes, I don't remember who originally did the research and posted this:

"Apparently, there were two different companies involved in the production of those bead chains. It would appear that Coach has used both BEAD CHAIN and BALL CHAIN at different times in the past.


First, there’s the company that used the imprint BEAD CHAIN. They started in 1914 under the name Bead Chain Manufacturing Company. They began making bead chain in 1916, producing pull chains for electric lights in their new factory in Bridgeport, CT.


As other uses for the chain developed, they branched out. For instance, during WWII, they made more than 22 million dog tag chains for US & Canadian military personnel.


Over the years, through expansion, acquisitions, and consolidations, they began manufacturing numerous other product lines, as well, ultimately taking on a new corporate name, Bead Industries, in 1987.


Bead Industries moved the production of bead chain from the US to the UK in the early 2000’s. Since then, chain production has been moved again, and all their bead chain is now made in South Korea.


Then, there’s a second company, Ball Chain Manufacturing, that used the BALL CHAIN imprint.


Ball Chain Manufacturing, still in operation in Mount Vernon, New York, claims to be the world's largest manufacturer of ball chain. They have been making ball chain in the US since 1938.


Their current online site shows ball chain available with either a nickel plated steel or a brass plated steel finish. (The price is the same for both.) The balls themselves come in “round" or “faceted" (what I think has been called “square” here.)


I imagine that both companies originally may have used solid brass for at least some of their chains.


That’s as far as I went in looking into the manufacturers of those chains. I don’t know about what years either firm supplied them to Coach. I figure that the chains used today are probably made in China (!)"
 
I really love your dog's, especially the one on the right, I can see life is happy and contented for him.
Thank you! The one on the right, Brandy, is a rescue with a horrible story. She was abandoned while trying to birth a dead puppy that was stuck inside her and had to wait overnight for an emergency C-section. She has some emotional issues and needs to be handled very delicately. She gets so frightened at times that she tries to melt into the floor while making the most heartbreaking mewling sound I've ever heard a dog make. I don't know much more about her past but I adopted her when she was approximately 5 years old. I walked into a pet store and saw her in a tiny kennel perched atop a medium kennel, perched atop a large kennel, surrounded by other kennels, all filled with barking dogs. It was an adoption event. She was shaking and looked terrified and all I could think was how awful it must be to be put on display and have no control over how your life will end up. So now she has the best life. No more kennels, lots of soft blankets, treats, and toys, and no more breeding. She knows she's rescued. This dog gives the best hugs and she is the cuddliest little thing I've ever met!
 
What!! Wow, congratulations! That's the bargain of the century, if you ask me.
I think I used up all my luck finding it, I don’t think I’ll ever have a find like that again.
I believe they are both trademarked, "bead" and "ball" chains.

From my notes, I don't remember who originally did the research and posted this:

"Apparently, there were two different companies involved in the production of those bead chains. It would appear that Coach has used both BEAD CHAIN and BALL CHAIN at different times in the past.


First, there’s the company that used the imprint BEAD CHAIN. They started in 1914 under the name Bead Chain Manufacturing Company. They began making bead chain in 1916, producing pull chains for electric lights in their new factory in Bridgeport, CT.


As other uses for the chain developed, they branched out. For instance, during WWII, they made more than 22 million dog tag chains for US & Canadian military personnel.


Over the years, through expansion, acquisitions, and consolidations, they began manufacturing numerous other product lines, as well, ultimately taking on a new corporate name, Bead Industries, in 1987.


Bead Industries moved the production of bead chain from the US to the UK in the early 2000’s. Since then, chain production has been moved again, and all their bead chain is now made in South Korea.


Then, there’s a second company, Ball Chain Manufacturing, that used the BALL CHAIN imprint.


Ball Chain Manufacturing, still in operation in Mount Vernon, New York, claims to be the world's largest manufacturer of ball chain. They have been making ball chain in the US since 1938.


Their current online site shows ball chain available with either a nickel plated steel or a brass plated steel finish. (The price is the same for both.) The balls themselves come in “round" or “faceted" (what I think has been called “square” here.)


I imagine that both companies originally may have used solid brass for at least some of their chains.


That’s as far as I went in looking into the manufacturers of those chains. I don’t know about what years either firm supplied them to Coach. I figure that the chains used today are probably made in China (!)"
Wow that’s a lot of research! It’s quite interesting. I’d imagine in the earlier days they tested out different manufacturers for what worked best/cost. I have a clip on strap dinky that doesn’t have the usual pull chain for the zipper, it has a flat pull tab, and then I have a chunky case and the pull chain has worn down to a dull grey. That just shows that solid brass is best but unfortunately hard to find these days.
 
Thank you! The one on the right, Brandy, is a rescue with a horrible story. She was abandoned while trying to birth a dead puppy that was stuck inside her and had to wait overnight for an emergency C-section. She has some emotional issues and needs to be handled very delicately. She gets so frightened at times that she tries to melt into the floor while making the most heartbreaking mewling sound I've ever heard a dog make. I don't know much more about her past but I adopted her when she was approximately 5 years old. I walked into a pet store and saw her in a tiny kennel perched atop a medium kennel, perched atop a large kennel, surrounded by other kennels, all filled with barking dogs. It was an adoption event. She was shaking and looked terrified and all I could think was how awful it must be to be put on display and have no control over how your life will end up. So now she has the best life. No more kennels, lots of soft blankets, treats, and toys, and no more breeding. She knows she's rescued. This dog gives the best hugs and she is the cuddliest little thing I've ever met!
What, SHE! What are those black things on the bottom of stomach? Lol ..there are so many heart breaking stories regarding companion animals, most because they are so demestcated and can't care for themselves, humangs are responsible for the bad situation they are in.
ETA: look at the photo again, just her paw sticked out there... Sign of aging, my eyes are going....
 
What, SHE! What are those black things on the bottom of stomach? Lol ..there are so many heart breaking stories regarding companion animals, most because they are so demestcated and can't care for themselves, humangs are responsible for the bad situation they are in.
ETA: look at the photo again, just her paw sticked out there... Sign of aging, my eyes are going....
Ha ha!! Yes, that's a paw!
 
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