Coach Rehab and Rescue Club

[katev]

I saw this post from a while back, I was wondering, @katev, if you did anything special to clean the lining? Or did it clean up with the normal dish soap/soapy water? I am thinking of washing a green bag in this style that has a very dirty lining.

Thank you! I soaked it in sudsy water with dawn dish soap. I pulled the lining out as far as possible and manually rubbed dirtier areas with a soft brush.

I rinsed it well and soaked it in clean water, then I stuffed it with towels to shape it during the first day of drying. After that I took out the towels and pulled out the lining and rotated the bag to continue drying.

I was lucky with washing the wallet of this set, it dried well and retained shaped, but I have occasionally run into problems with other wallets that dried all wavy and weird-looking.

The links below are for before and after pics of a Ergo Patent Satchel with tatersall lining that I rehabbed recently. The lining was filthy and I washed the bag twice in sudsy water, applied Dawn directly to the worst areas of the lining and scrubbed with a soft brush and a soft toothbrush. I had to really rinse it well to get rid of the soap. It isn't perfect but it is much cleaner and I am carrying this bag right now.

I finally finished rehabbing my Tan Patent Ergo Pleated Framed Satchel 12520. It was originally released in 2008 for $498 and I bought this poor bag at Goodwill for $10 and it was kindly authenticated by @whateve.

It was dirty, squished, and the lining was filthy, and there was wear on both the inner and outer edges of the piping on the handles or straps.

I washed it and was able to clean and reshape the bag but there was color loss in the leather piping and the clear patent material was flaking off in large areas on the handles/straps. I came up with a repair solution that I think worked well that I will show you with the After pictures.

Before: Tan Patent Ergo Pleated Framed Satchel 12520

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Here are the After photos of my Tan Ergo Pleated Framed Satchel 12520, that was sold for $498 in 2008 and rescued from Goodwill for $10.

As mentioned there was color loss and flaking patent on the inner and outer edges of the piping on the handles/straps after washing. I used a fine sandpaper to remove all of the patent from the piping and then I applied beige or tan acrylic to cover the color loss. After it dried I used a product called Golden Artist Acrylic Glass Liquid Gloss to restore the sheen of the missing patent material. It worked well and it doesn't look like plastic.

I used Pledge wipes on the bag to restore the shine and Wenol to brighten the hardware and I am very pleased with the results. It makes a nice, summery bag. There are still a few stray marks on the tattersall lining but the interior is much, much cleaner now.

After: Tan Patent Ergo Pleated Framed Satchel 12520

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[katev]

Ha I don't ever flip. 30 min soak in soapy water. Take bag out and fill water and add a cup of vinegar and soak another 30 min and then do another 30 min soak in just water.

Ha, I do 15 -20 for a soapy soak with a little toothbrush scrub, lightly. Then 15-20 in the rinse with vinegar. Then done. Of course unless I am watching something good and forget about it.

Would you use the vinegar with a red bag? The inside of my new Murphy bag is a little worn and dirty but I tend to be gentle with red bags because I have had mixed results in the past.

 

[Splatnext]

Would you use the vinegar with a red bag? The inside of my new Murphy bag is a little worn and dirty but I tend to be gentle with red bags because I have had mixed results in the past.



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Katev I just did did the big sister to your little Willis, mine dates from may 95.
I gave her a normal bath with Dawn in warm water about 25 min. each side, then rinse till clear and after that a 20 min. soack in vinegar water.There was only a light pink tint to the water. The color held up beautifully.

 

[houseof999]

Would you use the vinegar with a red bag? The inside of my new Murphy bag is a little worn and dirty but I tend to be gentle with red bags because I have had mixed results in the past.



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Yes I do and will keep using vinegar. Vinegar soak is the only one that I found works for me to get rid of most odors including cigarette smoke smell. I do the final water only rinse to get rid of the vinegar smell itself as I don't want my bag to smell like nothing.

 

[pruetjx]

Thank you! I soaked it in sudsy water with dawn dish soap. I pulled the lining out as far as possible and manually rubbed dirtier areas with a soft brush.

I rinsed it well and soaked it in clean water, then I stuffed it with towels to shape it during the first day of drying. After that I took out the towels and pulled out the lining and rotated the bag to continue drying.

I was lucky with washing the wallet of this set, it dried well and retained shaped, but I have occasionally run into problems with other wallets that dried all wavy and weird-looking.

The links below are for before and after pics of a Ergo Patent Satchel with tatersall lining that I rehabbed recently. The lining was filthy and I washed the bag twice in sudsy water, applied Dawn directly to the worst areas of the lining and scrubbed with a soft brush and a soft toothbrush. I had to really rinse it well to get rid of the soap. It isn't perfect but it is much cleaner and I am carrying this bag right now.

That is an amazing rehab. You've inspired me - I've only washed unlined bags before, but I think I will try it. That bag came out looking sharp! l I love bags with the kisslock, so classy.

 

[BlondieToHell]

Maybe if you can post pics. I generally do not use Kiwi shoe products on my bags, but I know others have. I think if it has acrylic, it is sort of like paint. Many people do touch ups with acrylic paint mixed with leather conditioner. I do have a navy bag that I would like to touch up. I will likely use a leather dye/recolorant from a company called Saphir. I have used their products before.
I am sure others will comment as they see the post.

Here’s a few pics. It’s almost totally dry now. I took one of the inside just so you can compare it to how badly the outside has faded

 

[katev]

Here’s a few pics. It’s almost totally dry now. I took one of the inside just so you can compare it to how badly the outside has faded

I think that a couple of thin applications of BlackRocks and buffing might restore the color of that bag beautifully. I would try that before resorting to dyes and paints. When it is all done you might need to touch up the piping on the corners with something - but maybe not. Even if it ends up not quite as dark as the inside, it may look gorgeous.

 

[Splatnext]

Here’s a few pics. It’s almost totally dry now. I took one of the inside just so you can compare it to how badly the outside has faded

Wow she looks alot better then I thought from your discription.She needs some serious Cpr-ing that alone will bring a lot of the color in the main areas back.
The edges and those 3 spots on the back may need extra help, I hope someone more expirienced then I will chime in.

 

[Catbird9]

Here’s a few pics. It’s almost totally dry now. I took one of the inside just so you can compare it to how badly the outside has faded

I think that a couple of thin applications of BlackRocks and buffing might restore the color of that bag beautifully. I would try that before resorting to dyes and paints. When it is all done you might need to touch up the piping on the corners with something - but maybe not. Even if it ends up not quite as dark as the inside, it may look gorgeous.

I agree. You might be pleasantly surprised with the effects of conditioning. I'd use Leather CPR, let dry, buff, Blackrock and buff some more.

 

[Lake Effect]

Here’s a few pics. It’s almost totally dry now. I took one of the inside just so you can compare it to how badly the outside has faded

See above responses!

 

[Lake Effect]

Would you use the vinegar with a red bag? The inside of my new Murphy bag is a little worn and dirty but I tend to be gentle with red bags because I have had mixed results in the past.



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I can’t say I wouldn’t, but I have only dunked one red vintage bag. I did not use vinegar because I hadn’t learned about it yet. I would go with past experience and instincts.

 

[vickenator]

Thanks for all the input!! I ordered the CPR last night from Amazon. I should have tomorrow. If so I’ll clean the hardware then try the dunk and then the CPR like you suggested. Although I’m a little nervous coating it before knowing if the odor is completely gone but I’ll see how it smells after the bath. Just to make sure I understand - you completely submerge the bag in the soap and vinegar solution. You let it sit for 30-45 min and then flip it over and let it sit for another 30-45 minutes for a total of 60-70 minutes?

I guess I'm a little excessive with my durations, but yeah, I let it soak on EACH side for at least 30 minutes (unless I forget, like someone else said). If it won't fully submerge on its own, I put a few little ceramic dishes inside the bag to hold it down. I actually haven't used vinegar in the bathwater myself yet, but I haven't dealt with any smelly bags yet, and the vinegar is definitely recommended for that purpose... plus I think I remember someone also mentioning how its pH is very good with vintage leather as well. Good luck and keep us posted!

 

[BlondieToHell]

Thanks for all the great advice!! I will condition and report back

 

[katev]

Thanks for all the great advice!! I will condition and report back

Condition with a good product like LeatherCPR and let it rest. Then use thin applications of the BlackRocks, massage it in, quickly wipe off the excess, and then buff. If you use too much BRs it will get sticky and tacky. Good luck!

 

[Lake Effect]

Well here is my challenge! Can I restore this BT Plaza (large) to its former glory? A black Plaza I purchased in great condition is rooting it on! I will say, the BT has that amazingly smooshy leather. Maybe that made it easier to be completely squashed flat, and I mean flat. The softness of the leather and size of the front slip pocket are encouring to consider removing both pieces of the turnlock to clean