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#961
iyaken said:
I am in a bit of a bind. I decided to attempt a navy blue bag today - thought I'd try that basic bag that Hyacinth had graciously authenticated for me in the authentication thread... So off I went, sudsy water in tub, bag in sudsy water... and I was all, "Huh, getting wet brings out the blue really nicely in this bag!" Then I realized, it wasn't darkening like leather does when it soaks in water, except in some spots - scratches and whatnot. Weird. And then it hit me.. the thing had be redyed! :wtf:The blue was starting to show crackling in some places.. I am heartbroken. The inside flap was fine - darkened evenly - but the rest was just.. crackled blue. I am not sure how to proceed at this point. Should I just get it redyed again? It's a beautiful simple bag, but at this state, I'm pretty lost. :sad: It didn't come cheap either. Maybe after conditioning and whatnot, if it still looks decent (it's not going to look great, IMO, because of that stupid dye job) then I'll still use it somehow, but otherwise... ugh. I don't think I can just scrub off the dye.
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I would let it dry and then re-condition it and see how it looks, you may find that the crackles kind of blend in once the bag is dry and conditoned? Sorry that this happened, I wish people would stop putting crap on their bags!
 
#962
buckeyebaker said:
HELP needed.
i bought a very nice black courier bag from a trusted seller (I think). but when i went to condition it, the black color started coming off the bag. the seller tells me that she had sent the bag to JAX for rebinding job, and that they always put something horrible on the bags to recondition them. I can see that there is in fact a new binding. So what do the JAX folks put on these vintage bags, and how do i get it off? i was using apple cleaner, and the rags are black; then nail-polish remover, and rag is a bit less black now. do i just leave it now and put conditioner on? any advice would be appreciated. the worst part appears to be the front flap of the bag, which has the most 'stuff' coming off. otherwise the bag is in great condition!
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is this in correct forum? or should i repost the query elsewhere? i'm just not sure whether i should a)send the bag back to seller; b) try to rehab it, give it a bath to get the stuff off; or c)just go ahead and condition it, since the color doesnt rub off when i'm using conditioner, only the cleaner. thanks.
 
#963
buckeyebaker said:
is this in correct forum? or should i repost the query elsewhere? i'm just not sure whether i should a)send the bag back to seller; b) try to rehab it, give it a bath to get the stuff off; or c)just go ahead and condition it, since the color doesnt rub off when i'm using conditioner, only the cleaner. thanks.
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I'm sorry I'm not much help with this one - I have not received a repaired item from JAX, so I cannot vouch for the statement that they put stuff on the bags.. Why would they put something that would rub off? I can't say that you should send the bag back to the seller - you've cleaned and applied conditioner to some extent, so it it's no longer in its original condition. I vote for rehab, by default, just because I've found it to be a very satisfying experience.. Do note that when I received a bag that I felt was not as described, I did decide to send it back before I did anything to it - not everything is a rehab project for me.

I'm not sure what your courier bag is like though - any linings? What general condition is it in? Maybe it's just polish, and that's why the color is rubbing off... My post after yours describes a bag I received that seems to have been dyed. I'm getting over it, and will try to rehab it to the best of my ability, but if I knew before I washed it, I probably would have talked to the seller about it first..

I wouldn't just condition without getting rid of the stuff that comes off. Not sure what would happen there - it might all just come off eventually, rub off on your clothes or car seat, and all sorts of unpleasant scenarios come to mind..
 
#964
iyaken said:
I'm sorry I'm not much help with this one - I have not received a repaired item from JAX, so I cannot vouch for the statement that they put stuff on the bags.. Why would they put something that would rub off? I can't say that you should send the bag back to the seller - you've cleaned and applied conditioner to some extent, so it it's no longer in its original condition. I vote for rehab, by default, just because I've found it to be a very satisfying experience.. Do note that when I received a bag that I felt was not as described, I did decide to send it back before I did anything to it - not everything is a rehab project for me.

I'm not sure what your courier bag is like though - any linings? What general condition is it in? Maybe it's just polish, and that's why the color is rubbing off... My post after yours describes a bag I received that seems to have been dyed. I'm getting over it, and will try to rehab it to the best of my ability, but if I knew before I washed it, I probably would have talked to the seller about it first..

I wouldn't just condition without getting rid of the stuff that comes off. Not sure what would happen there - it might all just come off eventually, rub off on your clothes or car seat, and all sorts of unpleasant scenarios come to mind..
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the courier is similar to a stewardess bag, but with a front piece that slips into a holder, very cool. no lining (NYC made older vintage). I can see that the binding was replaced, and the color seems to be straight black, no issues; except that when i went to apply apple cleaner/conditioner (like i do with any bag i get) the color started to come off. the seller said she'd take it back, but i do like the bag. so i was wondering what JAX uses to condition bags they work on, that would rub off like that; or whether there was something else on the bag (hmm). and if so, how best to get it off? should i just give it a bath at this point, and if it is polish, will the rest of it come off easily? i'm not much of a 'rehabber' prefer to get my bags in better condition.
 
#965
I have a question and after browsing didn't see it.

Has anyone tried any of those bleed sheets they've advertised that allows you to wash colors with whites? I was wondering if it might be something that would allow to wash more bags with lighter lining.
 
#966
buckeyebaker said:
the courier is similar to a stewardess bag, but with a front piece that slips into a holder, very cool. no lining (NYC made older vintage). I can see that the binding was replaced, and the color seems to be straight black, no issues; except that when i went to apply apple cleaner/conditioner (like i do with any bag i get) the color started to come off. the seller said she'd take it back, but i do like the bag. so i was wondering what JAX uses to condition bags they work on, that would rub off like that; or whether there was something else on the bag (hmm). and if so, how best to get it off? should i just give it a bath at this point, and if it is polish, will the rest of it come off easily? i'm not much of a 'rehabber' prefer to get my bags in better condition.
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If it were me, I would probably decide to bathe it (if I had decided to keep it). That way, probably whatever is going to come of will come off in the bath, and you will have a clean bag to work with and apply whatever conditioners you choose. Just MHO. I don't know what kinds of things Jax uses on the bags, possibly something was applied afterward...that's just the thing about vintage bags, who knows where they have been and they can't tell us their stories! Good luck :smile1:
 
#967
MelmoK said:
I have a question and after browsing didn't see it.

Has anyone tried any of those bleed sheets they've advertised that allows you to wash colors with whites? I was wondering if it might be something that would allow to wash more bags with lighter lining.
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I haven't tried this but would be interested to hear any feedback...I just washed a light colored bag that had darker brown leather, and some of the leather color bled on to the fabric, I'm going to try to spot clean it further but maybe these sheets would have prevented this! Let us know if you try it :smile1:
 
#968
Question: there's a mystery super-sticky substance inside the interior pocket of a Sophia I purchased off ebay. Seller doesn't know what it is. It's REALLY sticky. It's not gum. It's almost like a drop of melted fabric glue. It won't "roll off" with a fingernail, it doesn't come off with rubbing alcohol or baby oil or dish soap or Shout... I tried a tiny drop of nail polish remover but I was afraid that it might damage the lining since those linings are a synthetic material.
Any other ideas, and has anyone tried really scrubbing nail polish remover into one of those silky linings?
Thanks!
 
#969
I'm thinking about it. I have a bag that is....well it's so close to being a lost cause I might just give it a go. I'll price those color catcher things when I go grocery shopping this weekend and go from there.
 
#970
I just bought this gorgeous little white bag. The leather is in great condition. Because it is white, I am worried about which products are safe to use, plus I don't want it to end up shiny. I think it needs some protection though. What should I use?
 

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#972
whateve said:
I just bought this gorgeous little white bag. The leather is in great condition. Because it is white, I am worried about which products are safe to use, plus I don't want it to end up shiny. I think it needs some protection though. What should I use?
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Your white bag is very cute and seems to be in great condition, congratulations!

I have never rehabbed a white, glove-tanned bag so I cannot speak with experience, but whenever I need a leather cleaner and/or conditioner that I think will be safe on delicate bags, I turn to Lexol.

Lexol products are thinner liquids, not thick creams. I have used them on pebbled and textured leathers and on delicate colors such as red glove-tanned bags and so far I have had good luck.

I used the Lexol Quick Wipes in both the cleaner and the conditioner because they are so convenient. I get them at a tack (riding) store but I have seen Lexol products at shoe repair stores and other places. I think it is a pretty common brand. You can also order them online. Here is a link with info about lexol products:
http://www.lexol.com/solution.aspx

I often use the Lexol wipes to clean and condition my current, non-vintage bags before I put them into storage in my closet for the season. They are just so easy. (Caution, always let the products dry completely before taking the next step!)

When I want to clean the inside of a delicate bag, I usually vacuum it out and then use Lysol non-bleach cleaning wipes.

Good luck, nice find!
 
#973
MelmoK said:
I have a question and after browsing didn't see it.

Has anyone tried any of those bleed sheets they've advertised that allows you to wash colors with whites? I was wondering if it might be something that would allow to wash more bags with lighter lining.
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I"ve used the Shout color catch sheets with a white Hampton bag that had a brown leather piping and the color still bled. It did catch color on the sheet too, so I imagine the bleed off would have been worse without it. It can't hurt to try. White was just a hard color to fix for me!
 
#974
katev said:
Your white bag is very cute and seems to be in great condition, congratulations!

I have never rehabbed a white, glove-tanned bag so I cannot speak with experience, but whenever I need a leather cleaner and/or conditioner that I think will be safe on delicate bags, I turn to Lexol.

Lexol products are thinner liquids, not thick creams. I have used them on pebbled and textured leathers and on delicate colors such as red glove-tanned bags and so far I have had good luck.

I used the Lexol Quick Wipes in both the cleaner and the conditioner because they are so convenient. I get them at a tack (riding) store but I have seen Lexol products at shoe repair stores and other places. I think it is a pretty common brand. You can also order them online. Here is a link with info about lexol products:
http://www.lexol.com/solution.aspx

I often use the Lexol wipes to clean and condition my current, non-vintage bags before I put them into storage in my closet for the season. They are just so easy. (Caution, always let the products dry completely before taking the next step!)

When I want to clean the inside of a delicate bag, I usually vacuum it out and then use Lysol non-bleach cleaning wipes.

Good luck, nice find!
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Thank you! You know it is because of you that I started looking at vintage, and now I am afraid that I am hooked. I was prepared for having to do a rehab job and then I stumbled upon this cute little gem, so in some ways, I am relieved that it is already perfect. Now I just have to worry about keeping it that way. I wasn't looking for a light colored bag - in fact, this is my first - I tend to be drawn to deep, rich colors.
The seller referred it to a bag that Jackie O would have carried, and although this bag wasn't made until 1998, I can just see it with a pillbox hat! (But I am not the hat wearing type!)
I will definitely look into using Lexol products. We have a leather recliner that I have treated with mink oil. I tried using mink oil on the legacy keyfob that is in my avatar and although I think it helped with the cracking, it made it kind of sticky, so I'm sure that it isn't the best product to use on bags.
 
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