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Basic bag after dunking, one very thin coat of lanolin, line dry in the mild winter sun, 3 individual coats of sweet almond oil and sunning between each coat. I'm not done with this one yet, but you can get an idea of the colour change so far.

this looks like it might be the same color as my crescent bag? Is it kind of a yellowish tan? I love that style!
 
UGH! There are so many posts here I want to comment on but I had a really busy week with graduation (I work at a university) and the end of semester and such...I don't want to drag them all up. I have been peeking in at all the rehabs and, great work y'all!

I do have a question about the minwax-is that from Doc's thread? I've been wanting to post a picture of my 4 black rehab bags. I posted a lot about my station bag and the finish on that is faded so I touched up some areas with Fiebings black dye. But I have three other vintage-black bags that must have been treated with something to make them pretty and shiny. Two of those bags are probably late 70's early 80's.

Two of the three bags have been dunked and I experienced zero color loss. Do y'all think this is the MinWax treatment you've been talking about? I feel like I missed something. I've been meaning to post a comparison of the three bags for a couple of weeks but since I'm not sure I can capture the difference in three black bags...I"ll just post this one picture:

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This black bag has the same shiny, soft black finish as the other two which I dunked, but had virtually no color loss. The leather is soft and cushy on all three bags. Anyway, whatever they're using it's working and I'm curious about what it is. I thought for sure when I dunked the first one I was going to have a sink full of black water but...nothing!
 
UGH! There are so many posts here I want to comment on but I had a really busy week with graduation (I work at a university) and the end of semester and such...I don't want to drag them all up. I have been peeking in at all the rehabs and, great work y'all!

I do have a question about the minwax-is that from Doc's thread? I've been wanting to post a picture of my 4 black rehab bags. I posted a lot about my station bag and the finish on that is faded so I touched up some areas with Fiebings black dye. But I have three other vintage-black bags that must have been treated with something to make them pretty and shiny. Two of those bags are probably late 70's early 80's.

Two of the three bags have been dunked and I experienced zero color loss. Do y'all think this is the MinWax treatment you've been talking about? I feel like I missed something. I've been meaning to post a comparison of the three bags for a couple of weeks but since I'm not sure I can capture the difference in three black bags...I"ll just post this one picture:

372a5794.jpg


This black bag has the same shiny, soft black finish as the other two which I dunked, but had virtually no color loss. The leather is soft and cushy on all three bags. Anyway, whatever they're using it's working and I'm curious about what it is. I thought for sure when I dunked the first one I was going to have a sink full of black water but...nothing!


How do you like that briefcase? I was eyeing a few of them on e-bay last week, but they were expensive, and I wonder what they are like in person?

I have now heard that the Fiebings has to be sealed after dying, not sure about the Minwax? I also heard on this thread that the Minwax advice came from a leather workers forum of some kind, I don't think it was from Docride. I really wish there was more long-term information about some of this stuff. It kind of scares me as well that the more expensive and prettier bags on e-bay are treated, and that we have no idea how they were treated... I would rather know what is on my bag than get one where I have no idea if what they used is slowly eating away at the leather...

Whateve: Almond oil and extra virgin olive oil are both listed as good leather moisturizers in Docrides thread, on about page two. She recommends them for older leathers, and especially for dry-rotted leathers (later in her thread). She states later in the same thread that the oils can affect the stitching on a bag long term, but in Docrides world this means over a hundred years or more... But, I do carefully avoid getting it on the stitching. I rub it in over the areas where the leather is dry, and the bags I have used these treatments on are amazing...
 
How do you like that briefcase? I was eyeing a few of them on e-bay last week, but they were expensive, and I wonder what they are like in person?

I have now heard that the Fiebings has to be sealed after dying, not sure about the Minwax? I also heard on this thread that the Minwax advice came from a leather workers forum of some kind, I don't think it was from Docride. I really wish there was more long-term information about some of this stuff. It kind of scares me as well that the more expensive and prettier bags on e-bay are treated, and that we have no idea how they were treated... I would rather know what is on my bag than get one where I have no idea if what they used is slowly eating away at the leather...

I haven't used the green madison drake yet, but it is in amazing condition. I would say my only concern is that it feels like if I were to try to carry heavy stuff in it everyday, it would break down. If I wanted to squeeze my 15 inch laptop in there, it would just fit but it would not look right, and I think it would be too heavy for the bag. That's not what I bought it for, but I had to check it out, kwim?

Each of those bags were $79, and needed zero rehab. I'm perfectly happy with whatever they treated those three black bags with. It does not wash or rub off, the leather is soft. Unless I'm really lucky and got three really nice black NYC bags, something has been done to them.
 
That is what I was wondering with the Madison, it is so beautiful, but the two bags that I have the leather is incredible but not durable... it seems thin and fragile, and even in re-shaping, which my Gracie badly needed, I was afraid I would damage the bag, and very nearly did on one of the corner seams on the side...

I can't wait for the mail to arrive today... I have some treasures on the way to me, a couple of rehabs and a couple of additions to my newest collection... Hermes scarves... I have been asking for authentications this past week trying to find something authentic in my price range, and I found two, with a possible third I am waiting for photos of today... of course, that collection is going to have to be much smaller!!!!
But, I think the Coach vintage bags paired with those scarves will make for some very nice summer outfits!!
 
UGH! There are so many posts here I want to comment on but I had a really busy week with graduation (I work at a university) and the end of semester and such...I don't want to drag them all up. I have been peeking in at all the rehabs and, great work y'all!

I do have a question about the minwax-is that from Doc's thread? I've been wanting to post a picture of my 4 black rehab bags. I posted a lot about my station bag and the finish on that is faded so I touched up some areas with Fiebings black dye. But I have three other vintage-black bags that must have been treated with something to make them pretty and shiny. Two of those bags are probably late 70's early 80's.

Two of the three bags have been dunked and I experienced zero color loss. Do y'all think this is the MinWax treatment you've been talking about? I feel like I missed something. I've been meaning to post a comparison of the three bags for a couple of weeks but since I'm not sure I can capture the difference in three black bags...I"ll just post this one picture:

372a5794.jpg


This black bag has the same shiny, soft black finish as the other two which I dunked, but had virtually no color loss. The leather is soft and cushy on all three bags. Anyway, whatever they're using it's working and I'm curious about what it is. I thought for sure when I dunked the first one I was going to have a sink full of black water but...nothing!

Hi! I'm the crazy lady with the Minwax stuff. First saw references on leatherworker.net, then tried it on a Lite Tote a while ago with mixed results. Most recently used it on a Soho Shoulder Pouch (before & process: http://forum.purseblog.com/coach/coach-rehab-and-rescue-club-624452-188.html#post21825423) and after: http://forum.purseblog.com/coach/coach-rehab-and-rescue-club-624452-191.html#post21841590

I've had no rub-off after using several days in a row...nice shine, very happy!
 
Ok, I saw that, I guess my brain just didn't link the two! I'm pretty sure that's not what was used on these bags though, so nvm on that. I think it's more like some sort of black leather polish, but probably not shoe polish. I'll eventually try to capture the difference between these bags and my station bag.

I carried the black kisslock ^^ above this weekend and it felt so elegant & dressy, I didn't expect if from this bag. I'm very happy with it!
 
Yay! Yippee! Yahoo!
Not only did I finally find a tack shop on the outskirts of my sleepy little beach town...they have Blackrocks! On my way - shortly!

I'm working on a mid 70s Slim Satchel (http://forum.purseblog.com/coach-shopping/authenticate-this-coach-694619-701.html#post21850262) and a Pocket Purse (the following AT post) that could greatly benefit from Blackrocks, from what I've read here and Docride's Hermes posts. Can't wait to get it! More later...

Soooo...I think I got a little turned around here! I bathed, scrubbed and shaped both bags. On the Satchel I used a white eraser to gently remove some RED (!) pen marks (Yay, Docride's idea worked!) and gave it an all over rub with a mixture of black acrylic + Lexol. I rubbed some Leather CPR into the handles, as they are in very good condition, despite their age, and let her sit. On the Pocket Purse, I had only put Leather CPR on the strap and touched up strap edges with black acrylic. Nothing on the purse itself! She sat overnight too.

Well today I got Blackrocks and started on the Satchel, hoping to even out some scratches. Well, most of the black acrylic I put on...came off! I went back and re-read katev's rehab tutorial, and saw the error of my ways. Blackrocks first, color touch-up after. Live and learn...but wait! On the Pocket Purse, after applying Blackrocks, I'm getting a strange GREEN rub-off on the paper towels. A little black came off in the bath water, but where is this green coming from? A lot is coming off the piping, as well as the rest of the bag. There are a few in-progress pics below.

I would appreciate any advice...do I let them both sit a few more hours and repeat, or get right back in there? The leather is taking on a nice glow, just worried about the rub-off - or will it go away with repeated Blackrocks? Thanks everyone!
 

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Ok, I saw that, I guess my brain just didn't link the two! I'm pretty sure that's not what was used on these bags though, so nvm on that. I think it's more like some sort of black leather polish, but probably not shoe polish. I'll eventually try to capture the difference between these bags and my station bag.

I carried the black kisslock ^^ above this weekend and it felt so elegant & dressy, I didn't expect if from this bag. I'm very happy with it!

It might be edge kote? That sounds like the look and feel of the edge kote I've used to touch up bags before I realized it's almost a ''sealant'' type of color. It's great for bumped and scuffed edge repair.
 
I'm using the warmth of the sun to help the oil absorb into the leather - not that the almond oil stayed on top of this leather; it sank right in very quickly. I've started reading Docrides thread and she suggested almond oil for fine cracking (which I have on the straps of my burgundy tote). The top of the basic bag was quite dry and worn where the leather of the flap bends, so I thought I would try the almond oil on it too. Docrides suggested using a hair dryer to help the leather 'open up' and take in treatments, but I don't have one, so sun it is.

I guess it is possible for almond oil to go rancid, as any oil can, but this has been absorbed into the leather and is not pooling/ gathering anywhere, so I think it should be OK.

Looks great. Do you think the sunning darkens it more than it would otherwise? Can the almond oil turn rancid?
 
Sorry, I don't know what colour it was originally. The inside suede is lighter than the british tan bags I have seen in pictures, but I don't own one so have no actual comparison.

That color is stunning. Love it. It looks so deep and rich now. It now looks almost as dark as the color of the glove-tanned bag (below) which I believe was called tobacco (although it strangely looks nothing like the tobacco available now from coach.com) from about 10 years ago. I put in pic for comparison.

Do you know what color yours was originally? Mine used to be lighter before blackrocks.

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The binding was originally lighter than the main body. It was quite scuffed and worn. It's darker now, especially where the leather is pressed together in layers or overlaps, and this is probably due to the oil not being completely absorbed or dried yet. Coach seem to use a thinner leather for the bindings too - they strip the suede off the back. This particular bag has quite a lot of variation/ marking/ texture in the hide.

hi, looking good. i'm curious though about the binding, which now appears darker than the bag? why is that? i just bought a bag that has a darker binding and lighter body, and was wondering whether they were made that way, or whether somebody lightened the bag, or whether jax put on a darker binding. and now i see the same effect on your bag. any thoughts?
 
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