Coach Factory Online Sale Discussion Thread

[crazyforcoach09]

Regardless if the style originally was sold at retail as long as the inside creed, the one attached in the bag with the “this is a Coach bag....” has an F on it, the bag is an MFF. This is different from the retail bags (deletes/reserve) with no F in the creed but sold in the outlet store with a price tag that does have a F on the price tag only. Coach retail would not recognize a bag as retail with the F creed, they would say it’s an MFF because of the F creed. I believe they have done this with some Dinky bags and Drifters sold at the outlets.

It may not make a difference for some but for those that resell their bags, sometimes that F creed does further devalue a bag because it’s considered a MFF bag.

This is not correct. I learned so much from working there but that don’t mean nothing here. I try and educate but it goes unnoticed. Oh well. Ppl will believe what they want. Happy shopping

 

[crazyforcoach09]

It's even worse when 1941 bags such as the Rogue, whose whole market positioning was supposed to be premier, are reproduced in mass quantities for the outlets.

By making the Rogue for the outlets, Coach did 180 degree turn on it's branding for the bag. This affected the bag's resale value and also made it difficult for Coach's new department store resellers such as Saks and Neiman Marcus, to sell the bags at a profit. If I were a Neiman Marcus or Saks purchasing executive, I would be very upset at Coach for providing me a bait and switch in terms of marketing, branding, and pricing for the Rogue and other 1941 styles.

There were no rogue made for outlet

 

[crazyforcoach09]

My black drifter looks identical to the retail drifter but that doesn't make it retail. It has an F creed and was made to be sold through the outlets. If I ever decide to sell it, I can't try to pass it off as a retail bag.

If your bag was a retail bag even with the f it’s a retail bag. This is a fact. I don’t make this up. Not sure why ppl on this forum don’t believe nothing I say but oh well. I did learn a thing or 3 while working there for 3 plus years. Happy shopping

 

[Bag peace]

This is not correct. I learned so much from working there but that don’t mean nothing here. I try and educate but it goes unnoticed. Oh well. Ppl will believe what they want. Happy shopping

I'd love to understand if you wouldn't mind explaining. How can a bag have an F on the creed (not talking about the F added to the price tag, but on the inside leather creed patch) if it wasn't made for sale at outlets?

 

[crazyforcoach09]

It isn't retail. That's what she's trying to tell you. It is a retail style, made with exact quality materials as the retail bag but it is still MFF.

Ok. But it’s not. Trust me. It’s retail

 

[crazyforcoach09]

I'd love to understand if you wouldn't mind explaining. How can a bag have an F on the creed (not talking about the F added to the price tag, but on the inside leather creed patch) if it wasn't made for sale at.

juat bc it has a retail bag F does not mean it is mff. Y’all not gonna believe me anyway so why explain. Just enjoy ya bags

 

[Bag peace]

juat bc it has a retail bag F does not mean it is mff. Y’all not gonna believe me anyway so why explain

I legitimately wanted to understand because I'm willing to learn from those who know more than me.
My only thought is that they have to remove the original creed patch and replace it with an F patch but, since that didn't seem like something practical to do on thousands of bags, I thought you would give me the correct information. Sorry that you felt I wouldn't listen.
Thanks for responding anyway.

 

[crazyforcoach09]

I legitimately wanted to understand because I'm willing to learn from those who know more than me.
My only thought is that they have to remove the original creed patch and replace it with an F patch but, since that didn't seem like something practical to do on thousands of bags, I thought you would give me the correct information. Sorry that you felt I wouldn't listen.
Thanks for responding anyway.

From the looks of things, I don’t know anything. Others that know more than I can help. At this point my knowledge is void.

 

[Bag peace]

From the looks of things, I don’t know anything. Others that know more than I can help. At this point my knowledge is void.

I'm so confused, I was just asking a question because I could not understand. I'm not on here to create arguments or to make others feels unheard. I'm sorry that I've upset you, that was not my intention at all.

 

[pasdedeux1]

I'm so confused, I was just asking a question because I could not understand. I'm not on here to create arguments or to make others feels unheard. I'm sorry that I've upset you, that was not my intention at all.

I wouldn't feel the need to apologize to someone who is acting like a melodramatic teenager when anyone disagrees.

Perhaps that is why "that don't mean nothing here."

I'm personally of the opinion that it doesn't matter if Coach says an F bag is retail, what matters is how the market treats it, and the market treats all F bags as MFF.

 

[Alexa5]

By definition, if there is an F in the style number on the creed, it was made for factory. It could be the same exact quality but it was still made for sale in factory stores, not retail.

I am bringing this response back down because this sums it up very nicely. Once they add the F for all extensive purposes it is now made for sale in factory stores. The retail stores would not sell or accept returns on these items.

 

[SunnydaleFarms]

I am bringing this response back down because this sums it up very nicely. Once they add the F for all extensive purposes it is now made for sale in factory stores. The retail stores would not sell or accept returns on these items.

Exactly- in my opinion that F cheapens the bag (and the brand overall). That little bullseye used to mean “Lucky me! I scored a great bag at a great price!”, while the F more and more seems to symbolize “Coach thinks I’m a sucker”.
This also reminds me that none of the deletes I ordered from the FOS at Black Friday had the bullseye or any other “delete” markings. Makes me wonder if they just forgot, or if the marketing strategy is changing yet again.

 

[redwood66]

From the looks of things, I don’t know anything. Others that know more than I can help. At this point my knowledge is void.

It isn't your message or your knowledge, it's your delivery. Lots of people decide to resell their bags at some point and one with an F creed will always be seen as an outlet bag regardless of how it was made. That is the market actuality that pasdedeux was talking about. Also someone could never return an F creed bag to the retail store as Alexa5 also said. You are making a big thing of nothing.

 

[ltbag]

I'd love to understand if you wouldn't mind explaining. How can a bag have an F on the creed (not talking about the F added to the price tag, but on the inside leather creed patch) if it wasn't made for sale at outlets?

Bags that have F creeds on the bag are made for factory. When someone goes to resell those bags, they will either be faced with an "item not as described" escalation and have the bag returned, or they will get a lower price for the bag since it is an MFF bag.
Now this begs the question of why Coach would make the exact same bag for outlet and retail. That is a very good question and my guess is that even Coach executives don't have a clear answer lol

 

[ltbag]

From the looks of things, I don’t know anything. Others that know more than I can help. At this point my knowledge is void.

There were no rogue made for outlet

All Rogues with an F creed were made for outlet by definition. I'm not sure how you explain the F creed cfc, but that defines a made for outlet bag, so if a bag has one, it was made for outlet.