Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

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BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.
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  • Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
  • Made in tags (when available)
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Purple Penny said:
It may be because you listed it as the wrong color. It is Vachetta leather and the color is natural. Maybe somebody thought it was the wrong color and fake because the leather looks darker. But your listing looked fine to me.
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Hmm maybe! I wasn't sure it was vachetta leather so I listed it as whiskey because it looks similar to my Ali. Then I added natural to the listing when I saw a listing of original colors. But the previous seller's listing called it vachetta and the listing dept looked at that listing and was prepared to call it inauthentic.
 
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Hyacinth said:
Interesting, thank you! It's definitely the same style, probably late 1970s? They were still using those little fold-out mini catalogs back then, the earliest file I have of one that's made like a real catalog is from Fall 1981 and that bag's not in it. It's not in the mini 1976 or 1979 foldouts that I have either.

It looks like there's a full-length slip pocket under the flap?
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houseof999 said:
I don't think it was modified, unless of was an option given from Coach. Yours is the 3rd one I've come across. The first one was on eBay and we were all discussing whether the turn lock was after market modification. Now I'm not so sure. I'm leaving towards this style existed somewhere.. maybe the catalog of that time is missing.. hrmmmm..
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Ok, I have some pics of the hippie flap Stewardess hybrid! Measures 12"wide x 9.5"high x 4.5"deep. IMG_1498331019.213859.jpgIMG_1498331027.414028.jpgIMG_1498331035.478428.jpgIMG_1498331042.824306.jpgIMG_1498331051.013401.jpgIMG_1498331057.963762.jpgIMG_1498331065.081136.jpg
 
#23,374
marissa214 said:
Hello!

Item: Coach 10650 Leather Legacy Slim Tote
(In my possession)

I posted this bag on eBay yesterday and it was removed for being inauthentic. I didn't check here first because to me it seemed authentic albeit in bad condition. If it is fake, mea culpa! I bought in on eBay months ago as a project bag but it is beyond my skill. Please take a look at these pics and let me know if it's fake. If it is, I'll just harvest it for hardware. If it's not, is there anything I can do about eBay thinking I listed a fake? I really only use eBay to clean out my closet, so I don't have tons of selling history. Thanks in advance!

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Hyacinth said:
I don't see anything wrong with it. WTF is going on with Ebay? This has been happening a LOT recently, and it's BS !!!
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marissa214 said:
Whew, thanks! I couldn't believe it when I saw that!
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marissa214 said:
lol assuming you were replying to me :smile:
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marissa214 said:
Well...
So I have called eBay and spoken to their Listing Department people. They won't tell me why it was removed but I suspect it is only because I listed it at $10 starting bid. The leather is in terrible condition, which I disclosed, so I do not believe it is worth much more than that. Honestly, I think it's probably only worth its hardware. So I stated that I had only purchased this from eBay on May 13 (feels longer!) and it wasn't flagged then. So I stated that if they aren't going to let me relist, then eBay should refund my previous purchase. They ask if I want to start a refund, and I said yes. So then, they start a refund, and forward me to another department. It's when I'm talking to that department that I realize they want the previous seller to refund me. I said, no, it's not the previous seller's fault that you incorrectly flagged this as inauthentic. I do NOT want the previous seller to pay for this. So they send me back to the listings people and I talk to another person who tells me they have "secret Coach information" (I'm afraid I may have repeated that back to her with clearly audible quotation marks surrounding it) that shows this bag is inauthentic and that they can't reveal it to me because they don't want it to get out to people who create fake bags. So I said I wanted to speak to someone else higher up and she said she'd have them call me back.

In the meantime, the poor previous seller contacted me about the return that was started inadvertently so I'm communicating with that person and they are understandably annoyed. I have apologized, but asked if they have any documentation to help me out. I don't really care about the money..." Oh, ebay is calling back! More later...
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marissa214 said:
So they won't tell me what's wrong, they won't let me relist, and they won't admit they are wrong. I'm closing my ebay account.
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marissa214 said:
ps - sorry for melodrama - I just get annoyed with bad customer service and multi-million dollar companies wanting to punish innocent people like the seller. Ugh. I did close my account - it will save me from buying anyway. I'll stick to yard sales and thrift stores for a while. :smile:
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Purple Penny said:
It may be because you listed it as the wrong color. It is Vachetta leather and the color is natural. Maybe somebody thought it was the wrong color and fake because the leather looks darker. But your listing looked fine to me.
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marissa214 said:
Hmm maybe! I wasn't sure it was vachetta leather so I listed it as whiskey because it looks similar to my Ali. Then I added natural to the listing when I saw a listing of original colors. But the previous seller's listing called it vachetta and the listing dept looked at that listing and was prepared to call it inauthentic.
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And yet again, ebay f-s up and removes another authentic item. Yet, I've been reporting a POS from Goodwill that is still up (and has sold).

While I realize that you've closed your account (and I don't blame you for being pissed), I'm curious about a few things.
1. What exactly did the takedown notice say?
2. How many pictures were in the listing?
3. How detailed was your description?
4. Did you imply in any way that you weren't sure of authenticity? Could that have been interpreted as an authenticity disclaimer?

There is an appeals process and it's very possible you may not even have to invest in a professional authentication. I do get that a $7.50 investment in an authentication isn't cost effective for a bag that might sell for <$20.

Sheesh, Ebay! Get it right for a change!
 
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#23,378
Hi there
This may be just me being suspicious, but is this bag authentic? This seller has a large number of excellent condition city bags...which seems...dubious. There isn't much in the way of closeups. Thank you in advance!

Item: 132232656381
Listing number:
Seller: habs2525
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Coa...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649

Item: 132232656970
Listing number:
Seller: habs2525
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Coach-City-Bag-/132232656970?hash=item1ec9ae384a:g:2bIAAOSw1~JZSVL-
 
#23,379
Gingerone said:
Hi there
This may be just me being suspicious, but is this bag authentic? This seller has a large number of excellent condition city bags...which seems...dubious. There isn't much in the way of closeups. Thank you in advance!

Item: 132232656381
Listing number:
Seller: habs2525
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Coach-City-Bag/132232656381?ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649

Item: 132232656970
Listing number:
Seller: habs2525
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Coach-City-Bag-/132232656970?hash=item1ec9ae384a:g:2bIAAOSw1~JZSVL-
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Gingerone said:
Hi there
This may be just me being suspicious, but is this bag authentic? This seller has a large number of excellent condition city bags...which seems...dubious. There isn't much in the way of closeups. Thank you in advance!
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Both are authentic.

ETA: It's an interesting seller. She must find styles she likes and buy them in every color! None of her listings are a onesie!
 
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#23,380
Gingerone said:
Hi there
This may be just me being suspicious, but is this bag authentic? This seller has a large number of excellent condition city bags...which seems...dubious. There isn't much in the way of closeups. Thank you in advance!

Item: 132232656381
Listing number:
Seller: habs2525
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Coach-City-Bag/132232656381?ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649

Item: 132232656970
Listing number:
Seller: habs2525
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Coach-City-Bag-/132232656970?hash=item1ec9ae384a:g:2bIAAOSw1~JZSVL-
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They all look genuine. Other than the seller calling a few of them "vintage" that aren't the full 20 years old yet, and not showing enough photos of the bags to give any idea of the bags' condition, I don't see any problems. If there was one I was interested in I'd definitely ask for more photos of the inside and the high-wear areas in the corners.
 
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rkiz said:
Ok, I have some pics of the hippie flap Stewardess hybrid! Measures 12"wide x 9.5"high x 4.5"deep. View attachment 3742634View attachment 3742635View attachment 3742637View attachment 3742638View attachment 3742639View attachment 3742640View attachment 3742641
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There's no doubt in my mind that it's genuine, but you should post a few photos at the Vintage Coach Photos and Chat thread. It sounds like they've already discussed similar bags so you might want to check that thread for other questions and photos.
https://forum.purseblog.com/threads/vintage-coach-photos-chat.857690/
 
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Sorry some of the pics double uploaded. While the stains were disclosed and I made an offer based on that, it arrived and it was clear it had been treated with something that made it very shiny. I assume maybe it was some sort of protectant : /
An interesting anonmaly, one of the handles was sewn on backwards. The handle on the right laying on top should have been sewn with the edge of the leather facing in toward the other handle. It results in a handle with a twist.
 
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