I think the wallet is okay too but I wouldn't recommend buying a highly faked brand from a seller who doesn't know the brand nor more importantly, authenticate her items so that such an obvious fake can be listed.
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Originally Posted by jamcl31
Item: Coach Poppy Bag
Item number: 331109866412
Seller: candy*123
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Thanks!
Here's the listing. You have to go to the ebay.ph site to see it.
http://www.ebay.ph/itm/COACH-PATENT...2?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_211&hash=item4d17af9bac
Personally, I prefer not to recommend ebay.ph listings at all because so many seller accounts seem to be "connected" to other sellers, so many scary "good" fakes have been seen and so many listings seem to use pictures that might not be the actual item.
In the case of seller candy*123, most of her listings have a similar orange background and photographing style. Several other listings use pictures found on the internet so there's no telling what the actual items look like. And in the case of this listing, there are no other listings with similar pictures and backgrounds.
Another problem I have with candy*123's listings is her use of cryptic brand names; i.e., instead of Marc Jacobs, she lists Mrc Jac0bs, instead of Burberry, she has Bbrry, instead of Michael Kors, she has K0rs, etc. This is a tactic used by sellers to stay under the radar when selling fakes.
http://www.ebay.ph/sch/candy*123/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=25&_trksid=p3692
I'd stay FAR away from candy 123!
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ETA: I've done a bit of digging and I don't even believe that the poppy liquid gloss bag comes in a satchel with double front pockets. All the satchels I've found have a single front pocket and those with double pockets are crossbody bags with long shoulder straps.
I don't believe that the bag from candy*123 or candy 123 is authentic.
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Thanks. I found the small on the Wayback but couldn't pull up the detail page to see the style number.
I hope you can get your money back. Without even looking at the details of the bag, the creed is all wrong. The font isn't correct for that plant and it has a fuzzy look.
Welcome to tPF!
I saw your post at Ebay and found the same problems as the members there found. The "G" plant code has only been found in a few purses and briefcases from that time period, and the ones that seem to be genuine are very different in the fonts, format and basic details from the one you're asking about.
The first picture below is a genuine bag from that plant and made only 4 months from the date in your briefcase, but both the creed stamp and the serial number (the two were always stamped separately during this time period) are very different. The first one is from December 1995 (the code on yours would be August 1995 if it was genuine).
The second is from the same plant, year AND month as the date in yours, and was in a genuine bag. Yours should have an H5G prefix identical to this one, but it doesn't. The creed stamp, from the Coach logo at the top to the spacing of the letters, should also be identical and it's not. The Coach logo in yours has the old style letter font which Coach had already started to phase out - you can see the newer thinner letters in the logos of the three creed pics I posted.
The genuine G plant creeds from 1995 should have the serial prefix digits much farther apart than yours, the G should be slightly larger, and the "Made In the United States" at the bottom should be in slightly smaller letters than the rest of the creed stamp.
The third one from January, month code A, shows the same details as the first two. I've posted s slightly cropped pic from the one you bought for comparison.
I was also able to find one of the two fakes with the H5G- prefix that the Ebay poster mentioned, and it's a screamingly obvious fake, the year code 5 for 1995 is five years before those Signature C fabric styles were even made. Here it is if you haven't seen it yet:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-Backp...5?pt=US_CSA_MWA_Backpacks&hash=item3f2b3a5a65
I'm sorry, but everything I'm seeing says Fake, even the leather part of the turnlock tab isn't quite right, both the shape and stitching. And I'd love to see the inside pocket and entire leather panel it's attached to, the fakes makers often get that wrong. Another problem in the one you bought is the slightly blurry lettering, the real Coach creeds are sharp and clear, and I don't think it's the fault of poor photography. The creed also looks slightly "puffy" which we normally only see on bags and items made in the early and mid 2000s from Coach's China plants, and on some fakes.
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Since you only won the item on January 18, there's a chance that it hasn't been shipped yet.
Refer the seller here to read and hopefully, she'll just issue a full refund when she realizes her mistake in selling a fake without verifying authetnicity before listing it.
Note that the seller also sold a "lot" listing that included bags with Fendi and Coach markings. She doesn't show many pictures and the creed is missing but I'm not sure that the bag in the listing is what 9068 should look like. It might be 9063.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/LOT-OF-VINT...D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
The following link tells what steps to take for filing disputes.
http://forum.purseblog.com/ebay-forum/bought-a-fake-please-read-here-659751.html
Thanks Whateve! I believe I can list it. on ebay.as
" COACH REGINA with Unknown (Non COACH)replacement strap"..
.I.bought her from Goodwill online.. I tried to get them to take it back, they said they had it authenticated & ignored me..Way too many fakes on Goodwill..way too many Fakes on ebay
Cheers!! Sheri
Yup, you're right! Thanks.
That still doesn't change my recommendation (or lack) regarding listings on ebay.ph.
Thanks for finding the style number.
I took a look at the "Coach" that was part of the Coach/Fendi lot you referred to - that one is fake too if the serial number was copied correctly, and I have a feeling it was. Not only is it a "J" month code and those always need close scrutiny, but the J6D- prefix means a 1996 bag and that 9063 style wasn't even made until early 1999. It's shown as "NEW" in the 1999 Preview catalog.
Wherever that seller is finding her "Coaches" for sale, she needs to find another source, or better yet, stop selling the brand unless she gets them authenticated either here or at a professional authenticator like Authenticate4U.
Actually, this isn't the first time the seller, snippets has had fakes. (Wouldn't you think she'd learn after one or two dings to her account?)
In this post from October, 2013, a fake was questioned and confirmed:
http://forum.purseblog.com/coach-shopping/authenticate-this-coach-818914-420.html#post25471754
And in this post from August, 2013, she had another fake, deemed as such by Whateve:
http://forum.purseblog.com/coach-shopping/authenticate-this-coach-818914-315.html#post25282726
And the same fake by Hyacinth:
http://forum.purseblog.com/coach-shopping/authenticate-this-coach-818914-315.html#post25283105
And in fact, Snippets has this other current listing for a BEAN BAG!!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-1014-...ulder-Strap-/380809621577?hash=item58aa05b049
snippets is a seller who mixes authentic and fakes and doesn't do her homework to make sure her listings are legal.
Yep, and she describes the "bean Bag" as from the 1970s when the earliest it could be is 1988. She also says it was made in NYC but it only says Made In The United States, which could also have meant Miami or Puerto Rico.
I'm also seeing another red flag for the Coach logo in that bag. The serial number indicates a date from 1988 to maybe 1991 for that serial format, but the Coach logo in the creed has the "new" font with the skinny letters. I'm not sure just when they started to replace one with the other, since it's almost impossible to date those pre-1994 creeds. They would probably have waited for an original creed stamp to be worn out and almost illegible before they replaced the creed stamp and the old logo with the newer one. But it seems early for that font change.
Also where it's apparently supposed to say "Leatherware" under "Coach" it doesn't look as if anything's there, or it's stamped so lightly I can't see it. I could understand if it showed signs of having worn away but there's no heavy wear showing on any other part of the creed.
I'll have to look for a few more examples of Basic Bags from that time period.
Thanks Hyacinth, I can always depend on the Coach thread for an answer. Thank you
Thank you WHATEVE!! I believe I can list her as
"COACH REGINA with NON COACH replacement strap"
a step up from bags with NO Strap..I bought her from Goodwill auction at least 9 months ago..I do feel that she is authentic, and that the strap is a replacement, but you are right about the brass/metal rings on the strap itself, I was looking at the brass on the bag, where you would expect a " brass dog leash clamp" style strap to sit..BTW ,what is the Correct term for those removable straps? I always call them "dog leash clamps".."TWITCHER" clasp works for me
!! I think I'll go back &finish cleaning REGINA & put her up for sale! Thanks again! Sheri
"COACH REGINA with NON COACH replacement strap"
a step up from bags with NO Strap..I bought her from Goodwill auction at least 9 months ago..I do feel that she is authentic, and that the strap is a replacement, but you are right about the brass/metal rings on the strap itself, I was looking at the brass on the bag, where you would expect a " brass dog leash clamp" style strap to sit..BTW ,what is the Correct term for those removable straps? I always call them "dog leash clamps".."TWITCHER" clasp works for me
!! I think I'll go back &finish cleaning REGINA & put her up for sale! Thanks again! SheriSeller has posted more pics. Would you mind having another look please Hyacinth.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/171218658653?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
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