Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

[Vlad]

IMPORTANT READ-ME

Please post authenticity questions related to COACH in this thread. No PMs please.
For further information, please refer to the first post on page 1 of this thread.

Please follow the following requests:

• Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this thread to make sure that the item has not previously been authenticated by searching the seller ID and/or item number. This is not a thread to ask general questions about COACH, please refer to our main Coach forum for such information.
• Note that authenticators have the right to refuse any requests. This is a free service, but it is imperative that you help our authenticators by using the following format:
• FOR ITEMS LISTED ONLINE:
  Item:
  Listing number:
  Seller and site where listed
  Link:
  Comments:
  
  
• FOR ITEMS NOT LISTED ONLINE:
  Item:
  Where purchased or how obtained
  Comments:

BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.

• Front of item
• Back of item
• Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
• Made in tags (when available)
• Measurements
• For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
• For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
• If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.

Thank you and be safe!

 

[Hyacinth]

Oops, not sure why I said early 2000s, it’s meant to be early 1990s (in this case 1994). I hope this creed pic will suffice. Thx much

Thanks for the quick response.

It's a genuine Dowel Field Bag from 1994.

 

[daimlerz]

Thanks for the quick response.

It's a genuine Dowel Field Bag from 1994.

And thanks so much Hyacinth for your quick authentication!!

 

[mamasooks]

It looks like a genuine Shoulder Sac 9730 from around 1987 but Coach gives the top-to-bottom and side-to-side measurements as a bit over 10 inches.

From a 1987 catalog:

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You guys are amazing! I might have done a poor job measuring since it is currently stuffed as I am letting it dry. Thank you so much!

 

[BeenBurned]

May I please have assistance authenticating these two bags? Thank you in advance!

Item: Mahogany Brown Coach Rambler
Seller and site where listed: daisystreetstudio, Depop
Link:

https://depop.app.link/MpRKE6AEDJb

Comments: Suspicious creed numbers. Looks more like a J than a U And the last 4 digits don't match the rambler style?

The bag on Depop is fake. The Manor is fine.

Ugh! For some reason, I wasn't seeing several days' worth of posts so I've been absent.

Regarding the fake on Depop, the seller, daisystreetstudio has many fakes! I'd avoid!

https://www.depop.com/products/daisystreetstudio-vintage-coach-90s-crossbody-bag-ad2f/

https://www.depop.com/products/daisystreetstudio-vintage-coach-90s-crossbody-bag-2973/

https://www.depop.com/products/daisystreetstudio-vintage-coach-90s-crossbody-bag-af41/

https://www.depop.com/products/daisystreetstudio-vintage-coach-90s-crossbody-bag-88ea/

 

[greenandred]

Hi, all! Would you mind having a look at this one for me? Thanks.

Stewardess (9525) in black - J4B-9525
Recent purchase from user Ali5664 on Mercari.
Measurements: 10.75" x 9.5" x 4.25"
Photos:

 

[BeenBurned]

Hi, all! Would you mind having a look at this one for me? Thanks.

Stewardess (9525) in black - J4B-9525
Recent purchase from user Ali5664 on Mercari.
Measurements: 10.75" x 9.5" x 4.25"
Photos:
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It's fine, made in 1994.

 

[greenandred]

It's fine, made in 1994.

Excellent! I always appreciate it—and thanks for the quick turnaround!

 

[aggrodoom]

I purchased this 9138 from Poshmark. I’m pretty sure it’s authentic, but I’ve never bought a vintage Coach bag before. The listing had been pretty vague, but everything looked right. They didn’t have the style number when showing the creed in the images.

Length 9"
Height 5"
Width/Depth 2.5"

https://posh.mk/05GTNJJfGJb

 

[whateve]

I purchased this 9138 from Poshmark. I’m pretty sure it’s authentic, but I’ve never bought a vintage Coach bag before. The listing had been pretty vague, but everything looked right. They didn’t have the style number when showing the creed in the images.

Length 9"
Height 5"
Width/Depth 2.5"

https://posh.mk/05GTNJJfGJb

authentic Mimosa zip made in 1999.

 

[herringkr]

Hi all! Hope I'm doing this right! Bit of a long post -

I found this (what I thought?) vintage Coach bag in NYC in a thrift store about 5 years ago. I saw the Coach stamp and thought, cool! And didn't look too into it. It was probably $30 or less.

I've gotten into the history of the brand recently, and wanted to dig into this purse and another that I have. The other is clearly authentic. I have concerns about this one. It did not come with a hangtag, so that might have been an indicator, however those things do come off over the years!

I believe it is the Casey bag (#9923), but two things stand out as false to me. It's very hard to read, but it does say,

THIS IS A COACH BAG. IT IS MADE OUT OF A COMPLETELY NATURAL GLOVE TANNED COWHIDE. THE SCARS, SCRATCHES, VEINS AND WRINKLES ARE NATURAL CHARACTERISTICS OF FULL GRAIN LEATHERS.

MADE IN THE UNITED STATES

Which is genuine, however that's usually what the 80s bags said, and this should be from the 90s. The first thing that makes me think it's not authentic is the numbers read 4C5 9923. Shouldn't it be letter#letter? Additionally, the o in NO looks a little bigger than it should be! Maybe it was a stamp error? It's very faded, from age or not being stamped hard enough, I don't know. The bag is in decent shape, but it's definitely been well used, especially in the years I've had it!

The other thing, much bigger indicator, is the clasp says duck. I have not seen this before. Most clasps look like they have USA pat. number and then the word Tawanny.

So, authentic bag with oddities or a fake? It's definitely leather of high quality and the stitching is well done! I just can't image a fake would have the creed wording correct, but then the wrong number? Usually fakes are determined by the spelling/spacing, it seems? With numbers for other bags, or the wrong formula? The bag also does have the extended zipper that the Casey bag is supposed to have, but I guess it doesn't matter how many legitimate things it has if it has any illegitimate things!

It's a nice bag regardless of it's authenticity, but it would be nice to say I found a real Coach at a thrift store all these years later!

 

[herringkr]

Hi all! Hope I'm doing this right! Bit of a long post -

I found this (what I thought?) vintage Coach bag in NYC in a thrift store about 5 years ago. I saw the Coach stamp and thought, cool! And didn't look too into it. It was probably $30 or less.

I've gotten into the history of the brand recently, and wanted to dig into this purse and another that I have. The other is clearly authentic. I have concerns about this one. It did not come with a hangtag, so that might have been an indicator, however those things do come off over the years!

I believe it is the Casey bag (#9923), but two things stand out as false to me. It's very hard to read, but it does say,

THIS IS A COACH BAG. IT IS MADE OUT OF A COMPLETELY NATURAL GLOVE TANNED COWHIDE. THE SCARS, SCRATCHES, VEINS AND WRINKLES ARE NATURAL CHARACTERISTICS OF FULL GRAIN LEATHERS.

MADE IN THE UNITED STATES

Which is genuine, however that's usually what the 80s bags said, and this should be from the 90s. The first thing that makes me think it's not authentic is the numbers read 4C5 9923. Shouldn't it be letter#letter? Additionally, the o in NO looks a little bigger than it should be! Maybe it was a stamp error? It's very faded, from age or not being stamped hard enough, I don't know. The bag is in decent shape, but it's definitely been well used, especially in the years I've had it!

The other thing, much bigger indicator, is the clasp says duck. I have not seen this before. Most clasps look like they have USA pat. number and then the word Tawanny.

So, authentic bag with oddities or a fake? It's definitely leather of high quality and the stitching is well done! I just can't image a fake would have the creed wording correct, but then the wrong number? Usually fakes are determined by the spelling/spacing, it seems? With numbers for other bags, or the wrong formula? The bag also does have the extended zipper that the Casey bag is supposed to have, but I guess it doesn't matter how many legitimate things it has if it has any illegitimate things!

It's a nice bag regardless of it's authenticity, but it would be nice to say I found a real Coach at a thrift store all these years later!

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I just looked at more pictures to compare, and it looks like the flap should be leather on the inside, so I am leaning towards inauthentic but would like some confirmation! Thanks!

 

[Hyacinth]

I just looked at more pictures to compare, and it looks like the flap should be leather on the inside, so I am leaning towards inauthentic but would like some confirmation! Thanks!

You've received some very confusing and just plain BAD information from sites you've probably found on the internet and to take each point would take a lot of time and you'd still have more bad information in your files or notes. Before we go any further I'm going to ask that you read the entire thread here titled "Salearea Guides" so you at least know where to find ACCURATE information especially about details like creeds and serial numbers.

SaleArea guides

Now that ebay is removing the guides they've been hosting for years, those who use those guides have been forced to either save them on their computers or print them. Tonight I found that the Salearea guides (including the Hyacinth/Salearea collaboration ones) have been saved to Salearea's...

forum.purseblog.com

If you really want to learn FACTS about Coach details, that is where you start. Once you've read it carefully at least once, take another look at the bags you're asking about and I'll answer your questions. I wrote those Guides to answer some common misconceptions about Coaches so please make use of them. NEVER depend on anonymous and seriously outdated or just plain wrong internet posts or "authenticity guides", that two-word term just by itself should be a major red flag.

And BTW, we need MUCH clearer photos of the creeds and serial numbers you posted,that's the most important detail. I can't read either one of them but at least one of them is certainly fake.

 

[mdorton]

Hi! I purchased a Scout Hobo from kenu-7579 on ebay. I am attaching photos. Do you agree with me that it's authentic?
1) the creed patch lettering is small and hard to read, and there is no serial number (though there is a style tag that indicates a 2014 production date so the missing serial number is consistent with the timing). However, the tag that says made in Phillipines is black with white lettering.
2) Hardware is sort of . . . fading? It was gold but is becoming silver; and
3) the strap hardware (attached to both the bag leather and to the strap leather) has teeny tiny lettering that says coach but the leather component has no indication it's a coach
4) the leather hang tag is attached by a strip of leather rather than a chain (this seems consistent with scout hobos)


Here is a link to the original listing, which may not open (it opens for me on a mobile device). https://www.ebay.com/itm/1263968406...DXol8yIQMe&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

 

[daimlerz]

Hello there Authenticators, happy FriYAY! I got this leather portfolio/laptop sleeve from eBay and really appreciate its thick, supple leather and workmanship. This is clearly from that era of Coach when (some of) their products were made in China. I’m curious to know what this portfolio style was called. Dimensions are roughly 16” x 11.5” x 1”. I like the flap with the big scallop detail. Based on the creed, I’m guessing this was offered in 2003 (??). I’d be very grateful for any info (style name) and even a printed catalog pic of this Coach item. Thank you!

 

[whateve]

Hi all! Hope I'm doing this right! Bit of a long post -

I found this (what I thought?) vintage Coach bag in NYC in a thrift store about 5 years ago. I saw the Coach stamp and thought, cool! And didn't look too into it. It was probably $30 or less.

I've gotten into the history of the brand recently, and wanted to dig into this purse and another that I have. The other is clearly authentic. I have concerns about this one. It did not come with a hangtag, so that might have been an indicator, however those things do come off over the years!

I believe it is the Casey bag (#9923), but two things stand out as false to me. It's very hard to read, but it does say,

THIS IS A COACH BAG. IT IS MADE OUT OF A COMPLETELY NATURAL GLOVE TANNED COWHIDE. THE SCARS, SCRATCHES, VEINS AND WRINKLES ARE NATURAL CHARACTERISTICS OF FULL GRAIN LEATHERS.

MADE IN THE UNITED STATES

Which is genuine, however that's usually what the 80s bags said, and this should be from the 90s. The first thing that makes me think it's not authentic is the numbers read 4C5 9923. Shouldn't it be letter#letter? Additionally, the o in NO looks a little bigger than it should be! Maybe it was a stamp error? It's very faded, from age or not being stamped hard enough, I don't know. The bag is in decent shape, but it's definitely been well used, especially in the years I've had it!

The other thing, much bigger indicator, is the clasp says duck. I have not seen this before. Most clasps look like they have USA pat. number and then the word Tawanny.

So, authentic bag with oddities or a fake? It's definitely leather of high quality and the stitching is well done! I just can't image a fake would have the creed wording correct, but then the wrong number? Usually fakes are determined by the spelling/spacing, it seems? With numbers for other bags, or the wrong formula? The bag also does have the extended zipper that the Casey bag is supposed to have, but I guess it doesn't matter how many legitimate things it has if it has any illegitimate things!

It's a nice bag regardless of it's authenticity, but it would be nice to say I found a real Coach at a thrift store all these years later!

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Your pictures aren't sharp enough to really see everything but I'm seeing several things that lead me to believe it is fake.