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  • Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this thread to make sure that the item has not previously been authenticated by searching the seller ID and/or item number. This is not a thread to ask general questions about COACH, please refer to our main Coach forum for such information.
  • Note that authenticators have the right to refuse any requests. This is a free service, but it is imperative that you help our authenticators by using the following format:
  • FOR ITEMS LISTED ONLINE:
    Item:
    Listing number:
    Seller and site where listed
    Link:
    Comments:

  • FOR ITEMS NOT LISTED ONLINE:
    Item:
    Where purchased or how obtained
    Comments:
BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.
  • Front of item
  • Back of item
  • Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
  • Made in tags (when available)
  • Measurements
  • For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
  • For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
  • If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.
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Hi guys! Could someone authenticate this bag please?

Item: Equestrian Flap (#9801) (also is this the smaller version? I know there's 2 equestrian flaps and that one is much larger than the other but I forget which ones which)
Product ID: 123065248
Seller and site where listed: Goodwill
Link: https://www.shopgoodwill.com/Item/123065248
 

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Farlynn said:
Good morning, will someone please authenticate this bag for me:

FOR ITEMS LISTED ONLINE:
Item: Vintage Coach The City Brown Leather Bag
Listing number: I don't know how to find the info
Seller and site where listed: Seller alexis_run and Site posh
Link: https://poshmark.com/listing/Vintage-Coach-The-City-Brown-Leather-Bag-60b9814de97e488eecf2504c
Comments: Since I don't have a listing number, i attached a screenshot of the listing.
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Genuine City Bag style number 9790 made in the early 1990s
 
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NBALLY8006 said:
I would appreciate any assistance in authenticating these two

poshmark.com

Vintage Coach, messenger purse in British tan

Shop auntietam1's closet or find the perfect look from millions of stylists. Fast shipping and buyer protection. Adorable! Flap style leather bag with brass hardware in good condition. Previously owned, has a faint pen mark near turnlock and slight spotting/wear on shoulder strap and on flap...
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www.ebay.com

Vintage Preowned Coach Handbag w/Handle No Strap Goldtone Brass Turnlock | eBay

Goldtone Brass Turnlock.
www.ebay.com
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BeenBurned said:
Remember to include seller ID:
1. Poshmark seller auntietam1 - It seems okay. I can't read the creed too well. (Other opinions are welcome.)
2. Ebay seller new2you77 - fake

ETA:
Seller auntietam1 sold this fake: https://poshmark.com/listing/Vintage-Coach-Legacy-9966-Purse-5f470f867f80d28b2472c371
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The first one from AuntieTam1 looks like a style 9620 Compact Pouch, made in the early 1990s. I'm starting to sound like a broken record about the early 1990s...
 
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amberquamme said:
just so I can kind of learn if it's not too much to ask? In the serial number the 9993 is correct but it's the second and third digit that's wrong? It should be a 6D and not an 8H? D for made in US and6 for made in 1996? And u can tell it's fake by the H (not sure where that's referencing to it being made) and the 8 bc they weren't made in 1998? Or am I completely off base here? I don't mean to ask too much or waste anyone's time I'm just genuinely curious. Thank you!!!
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I'll answer very generally because the "rules" aren't rules, which is why you can't depend on most of what you read as being accurate.

1. 9993 is the style number of the bag your fake was trying to copy. The counterfeiters can and do sometimes put "correct" style numbers on their fakes. But a bag that seems to match the correct style it should be doesn't mean it's authentic.
2. Just because most (or all) the current ebay listings show 1996 D plant bags of the style, that doesn't mean that all authentic bags are from that year and plant. in fact, here's an authentic 1996 B plant bag: https://www.etsy.com/listing/871052...993&ref=sr_gallery-1-1&organic_search_click=1
3. With reference to 1996 D plant bags, keep in mind that there are a lot of fakes with 1996 D creeds. There are other elements that have to be correct for a bag to be deemed as authentic.
4. The "8H' is always fake because the H plant wasn't in operation in 1998.

The best option is to ask about any item before buying (or selling) if it's not an item you know well enough to confirm authenticity or not an item that you personally bought directly from a legitimate source/retailer.
 
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Hi all please see attached.
Seller: Mercedesjackson
I saw that the sold a couple of fakes in the past so wondering about this one.

poshmark.com

SALE Vintage Coach Legacy bag British tan 9997

Shop mercedesjackson's closet or find the perfect look from millions of stylists. Fast shipping and buyer protection. Authentic. Great condition crossbody or shoulder bag. Style 9997. Made in the United States in 1998. Glove tanned cowhide leather in British Tan. All natural genuine raw suede...
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BeenBurned said:
I'll answer very generally because the "rules" aren't rules, which is why you can't depend on most of what you read as being accurate.

1. 9993 is the style number of the bag your fake was trying to copy. The counterfeiters can and do sometimes put "correct" style numbers on their fakes. But a bag that seems to match the correct style it should be doesn't mean it's authentic.
2. Just because most (or all) the current ebay listings show 1996 D plant bags of the style, that doesn't mean that all authentic bags are from that year and plant. in fact, here's an authentic 1996 B plant bag: https://www.etsy.com/listing/871052...993&ref=sr_gallery-1-1&organic_search_click=1
3. With reference to 1996 D plant bags, keep in mind that there are a lot of fakes with 1996 D creeds. There are other elements that have to be correct for a bag to be deemed as authentic.
4. The "8H' is always fake because the H plant wasn't in operation in 1998.

The best option is to ask about any item before buying (or selling) if it's not an item you know well enough to confirm authenticity or not an item that you personally bought directly from a legitimate source/retailer.
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Thank you. You've been very nice. I really appreciate your time.
 
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amberquamme said:
Ah yes I found that out too, I called them and they told me they couldn't do it. The number she gave me was pulled from a website claiming to be able to validate vintage bags. I think she google searched and copied the number without actually taking the step to see if it was in service or not, then just told me it was authentic hoping her word would be enough. I wasn't playing that is morning and def called the number, called Coach and used the chat feature with coach too. Hey u can never be too sure lol. The number she used was 904-741-3090 it pulls back to Coach at one point but it's out of service now. Idk. I was very confused this morning but it appears the right choice was made in requesting a refund. Thank you!

just so I can kind of learn if it's not too much to ask? In the serial number the 9993 is correct but it's the second and third digit that's wrong? It should be a 6D and not an 8H? D for made in US and6 for made in 1996? And u can tell it's fake by the H (not sure where that's referencing to it being made) and the 8 bc they weren't made in 1998? Or am I completely off base here? I don't mean to ask too much or waste anyone's time I'm just genuinely curious. Thank you!!!
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BeenBurned said:
The creed is puffy and the spacing is raised but the imprints ARE pressed into the leather (or leather-like material). Sometimes, depending on lighting, there can be the optical illusion that the writing is raised.
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ALL J8H- prefix serial numbers are fake. The plant code isn't valid. The seller probably already knows that which is probably why she doesn't have a photo of the creed in the listing and had to be asked for one.

There's a list of frequently-used fake serial numbers Called the Daria48 Fake Coach Numbers List right after the six Salearea Guides Pinned here in the Coach Shopping forum. I strongly advise everyone who hasn't read both the Salearea Guides and the Daria48 Fakes List already to do so, and remember where you found them so you can find them when you need them:

SaleArea guides

Now that ebay is removing the guides they've been hosting for years, those who use those guides have been forced to either save them on their computers or print them. Tonight I found that the Salearea guides (including the Hyacinth/Salearea collaboration ones) have been saved to Salearea's...
forum.purseblog.com forum.purseblog.com

The Daria48 Fakes list includes that prefix, and the Salearea Guides explain WHY a Coach can't be authenticated just by the style numbers and ESPECIALLY NOT over the phone. And anyone who tries to do so including Coach employees are not only violating Coach company policy, but also lying through their teeth if they say they can authenticate anything that way. And the seller is also lying like a rug when she says anyone on a website or phone number can do it without even seeing the bag. Since the seller lied to you about the out-of-service phone number that she claims she called just that morning, the chances of her lying about everything else gets a lot stronger.

I've been authenticating here and at a very large selling site for 15 years and I had to see an actual photo of the serial number to be sure, although as I said, ANY bag with a serial number starting with J8H- is ALWAYS going to be fake. NO EXCEPTIONS.

I strongly advise not buying from that Facebook seller.
 
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NBALLY8006 said:
Hi all please see attached.
Seller: Mercedesjackson
I saw that the sold a couple of fakes in the past so wondering about this one.

poshmark.com

SALE Vintage Coach Legacy bag British tan 9997

Shop mercedesjackson's closet or find the perfect look from millions of stylists. Fast shipping and buyer protection. Authentic. Great condition crossbody or shoulder bag. Style 9997. Made in the United States in 1998. Glove tanned cowhide leather in British Tan. All natural genuine raw suede...
poshmark.com poshmark.com
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That one is genuine, it's called a Legacy Small Zip.

Please understand that we don't encourage buying from people who have sold fakes, it just encourages some of them to keep doing it if they know they can get away with it. The ones who mix real and fake are even more dangerous than the ones who sell nothing BUT fakes.
 
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