Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

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Please post authenticity questions related to COACH in this thread. No PMs please.
For further information, please refer to the first post on page 1 of this thread.

Please follow the following requests:
  • Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this thread to make sure that the item has not previously been authenticated by searching the seller ID and/or item number. This is not a thread to ask general questions about COACH, please refer to our main Coach forum for such information.
  • Note that authenticators have the right to refuse any requests. This is a free service, but it is imperative that you help our authenticators by using the following format:
  • FOR ITEMS LISTED ONLINE:
    Item:
    Listing number:
    Seller and site where listed
    Link:
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  • FOR ITEMS NOT LISTED ONLINE:
    Item:
    Where purchased or how obtained
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BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.
  • Front of item
  • Back of item
  • Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
  • Made in tags (when available)
  • Measurements
  • For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
  • For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
  • If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.
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#36,991
BeenBurned said:
This is further proof of why we say that calling Coach and/or doing an ebay or Google image search isn't a dependable way of confirming authenticity.

The counterfeiters can an do (sometimes) use legitimate prefixes and style numbers on their fakes. (Case in point: See the "Italian" made bag Catbird9 posted and asked about above. Both the prefix is "valid" and the style number seems to be correct for the bag.)
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I hear what you are saying, but trust me I know now this bag should have never gotten past me to begin with. I also have never asked any coach employee or called Coach for authentication as that would be pointless. They are there to sell purses and are not authenticators. Also if I am correct Coach even says that their employees do not authenticate. I usually am much more thorough than I was with this bag. Although the style, weight and leather seemed good I did later notice things many things I missed after posting on here. I started looking and there were many things wrong I should have caught. Not only was the K3H a well know prefix used in fakes (a simple search would have found this), but the zipper is also cheaply made and is definately not a legit ykk zipper (I know ykk means nothing, but when Coach uses them they are not this style of zipper - at least in my experience). As I mentioned above the other purses in this style were made in China and this was made in the USA and the stamping of the number is also different from other bags in this style. Also seen the creed is completely incorrect. That's 4 things that I missed that would have been a red flag. Also noticed most of them have the factory bullseye stamp next the creed which would have had me at least questioning it. To be honest Im not sure what I was even thinking putting this bag up. I honestly dont know how I did not see all these things. If anything this is a lesson learned. Once again I do appreciate all the help you guys give and think you guys offer a great service helping people.

That being said. When I was in the process of looking at all of the details of the bag again I think I may have came across another fake that is just like the one I had. This one is red. There aren't alot of detailed pictures, but from what you can see the creed is the same on this purse and so is the lining. The listing number is:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-7757-Handbag/173871097132?hash=item287b86652c:g:Z9QAAOSwk1BcsJgk
 
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#36,992
Ok so Experts, please tell me about this bag. A friend of mine said she owned one back in the late 70s so I would like to know your opinion on it.

The creed No L7D-9085
Black leather bucket (?) Tote
There is no liner in this bag.

Thank you
 

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#36,993
Hyacinth said:
It's a genuine Neo Pocket Zip, but your age estimate is quite a ways off. It was made in 2000, and technically won't be considered Vintage until next year when it's 20 years old. The fabric is Neoprene.

Not only wasn't Coach using serial numbers until maybe the very late 1970s, but genuine Coaches made before the late 1990s would never have had silver-color hardware.

I suggest you read this thread that includes all 6 Salearea Coach Guides for accurate information on things like dates, creeds and serial numbers. If you're getting your information on Coach dates from somewhere on the internet, you're getting some very bad information:
https://forum.purseblog.com/threads/salearea-guides.983575/#post-32252957

ETA - you mentioned here in January that you usually authenticate your own Coaches. One of the most basic, yet important, details to know when authenticating a "Coach" is how to determine when it was made, followed by determining if the details are correct not just for the style but also for the plant, month and year in the codes. If you don't have accurate information on how to do that, you're going to have serious problems. I strongly suggest that, like with other highly faked brands, Coach buyers leave the authentications to the experts.
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So, as an Expert, do you or did you ever work for Coach to become that educated on their products? If not, how did you become an Expert? I did used to authenticate my bags. Out of probably 200 of them, I was wrong on 3. It happens. No one is perfect. As for this bag, had I been 100% sure of when it was made, etc, I wouldn't have felt the need to post it on this forum. I am smart enough to know when I am not 100% know sure of authenticity and/or if a bag is vintage or not, which is why I posted on here.

And I apologize if I sound like I'm being rude. I'm not. I just don't believe in sugar coating it. And I may see your reply to my post as I see it and not as it is but that last statement you made was rude and unnecessary. "Leave the authentication to the Experts?" Just because I have made a few mistakes, does not make me less educated than you, unless you were or are employees of Coach so actually received your Coach Handbag authentication directly thru them.
 
#36,994
Catbird9 said:
If you're considering purchasing, you might want to ask the seller if any recoloring products were used on the bag. The finish doesn't look natural to me.
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I only saw your message this morning, @Catbird9, but yesterday I decided against bidding, anyway. I didn't like the look of it, either. I was curious about the model though as I saw similar clutches from later periods, but not this particular type. Thank you for your input!
 
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#36,998
Allisoneva76 said:
Can you please authenticate this Rogue?
Coach Rogue 30
https://item.mercari.com/gl/m72577328723/
Seller:
Theirnana4
I am concerned because that weird stamp that has an X with 1941 laid out around it normally under the side zipper flap isn’t there. I have already purchased it and want to make sure it’s real before I confirm purchase.

I am attaching pics. This is my first post so please forgive anything I’m missing.
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Anyone?
 
#36,999
ShariZain said:
Ok so Experts, please tell me about this bag. A friend of mine said she owned one back in the late 70s so I would like to know your opinion on it.

The creed No L7D-9085
Black leather bucket (?) Tote
There is no liner in this bag.

Thank you
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This bag is authentic, made in 1997.

But the duffel sacs are commonly faked, often with seemingly "correct" style numbers.
 
#37,002
ShariZain said:
So, as an Expert, do you or did you ever work for Coach to become that educated on their products? If not, how did you become an Expert? I did used to authenticate my bags. Out of probably 200 of them, I was wrong on 3. It happens. No one is perfect. As for this bag, had I been 100% sure of when it was made, etc, I wouldn't have felt the need to post it on this forum. I am smart enough to know when I am not 100% know sure of authenticity and/or if a bag is vintage or not, which is why I posted on here.

And I apologize if I sound like I'm being rude. I'm not. I just don't believe in sugar coating it. And I may see your reply to my post as I see it and not as it is but that last statement you made was rude and unnecessary. "Leave the authentication to the Experts?" Just because I have made a few mistakes, does not make me less educated than you, unless you were or are employees of Coach so actually received your Coach Handbag authentication directly thru them.
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You've self authenticated 200 bags on your own, but you don't know how to interpret a creed? If you did, you would have known when that bag was made. IMO, that is the most basic thing you can learn to help you authenticate. Not to be rude, but on this particular subject, you are less educated than we are.

None of the authenticators here have worked for Coach as far as I know. I became an authenticator because I bought several fakes. I was tired of being duped so I tried to learn as much as I could. It started here by asking for authentications, and then studying details to see if I could figure out why one was authentic and another was not. We have all collected huge libraries of photos that show details from thousands of Coach items.
 
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#37,005
whateve said:
It looks okay. The color is probably clay.
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Ah thank you!
If I may ask, Im curious about the different lighter color names. I saw some bags listed as green, grey, clay, olive, etc. and they all look to be very similar in color to me.
I realize getting info based on sellers descriptions, differently lit photos and variations in wear isn't reliable, but I'm not sure of any other good sources other than asking you all. Would something like this be better suited for the I.D. thread, even if don't own it or don't have it in my possession? Let me know and I will repost there. Not knowing the official color, and using general terms in the search bar wasn't going too well.

For example
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-Lega...325861?hash=item1ef6d75465:g:nNYAAOSw7xxcjAi4

https://www.tradesy.com/i/coach-leg...lay-gray-green-leather-shoulder-bag/23691687/

https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/coach-65th-anniversary-green-legacy-1691936478

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-Lega...555487?hash=item3fc0fa18df:g:YRoAAOSwci1cwN24

https://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-Mine...305668&hash=item2618c0ee15:g:CiwAAOSwfo9a8QWE
 
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