Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

[Vlad]

IMPORTANT READ-ME

Please post authenticity questions related to COACH in this thread. No PMs please.
For further information, please refer to the first post on page 1 of this thread.

Please follow the following requests:

• Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this thread to make sure that the item has not previously been authenticated by searching the seller ID and/or item number. This is not a thread to ask general questions about COACH, please refer to our main Coach forum for such information.
• Note that authenticators have the right to refuse any requests. This is a free service, but it is imperative that you help our authenticators by using the following format:
• FOR ITEMS LISTED ONLINE:
  Item:
  Listing number:
  Seller and site where listed
  Link:
  Comments:
  
  
• FOR ITEMS NOT LISTED ONLINE:
  Item:
  Where purchased or how obtained
  Comments:

BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.

• Front of item
• Back of item
• Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
• Made in tags (when available)
• Measurements
• For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
• For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
• If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.

Thank you and be safe!

 

[whateve]

Item: Sheridan wallet?
The item looks in good condition and quality, but the coach stamp is a bit on the round side and I'm not sire if thats because its old or because its fake.
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What I see looks good.

 

[tthreetoo6]

Here is the link from where it was purchased.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-CO...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2648

 

[vivianyan]

Can someone tell me if this coach backpack is real? It seems weird that the @ R is in the lettering also it was made in the DR which I know some bags were but this bag was listed as a "rare gray vintage coach backpack" and I am just not sure if it is real!?????/

Like @whateve mentioned, that's not a @ R you are seeing, it's the double circle, a "bulls eye" punch mark, it's common to see on vintage coach bags.

 

[Hyacinth]

Can someone tell me if this coach backpack is real? It seems weird that the @ R is in the lettering also it was made in the DR which I know some bags were but this bag was listed as a "rare gray vintage coach backpack" and I am just not sure if it is real!?????/

I'm not sure why you think the creed is "off". It's a genuine Daypack made in 1999. That double circle mark isn't an "R", it's referred to as a bullseye and is used by Coach's Factory outlet stores. That mark can be faked but that backpack is genuine.

Don't judge one bag's authenticity by comparing it to a different bag or style. Read the Salearea Guides beginning with post 14 here for more information on creeds and serial numbers:
https://forum.purseblog.com/threads/salearea-guides.983575/#post-32252957

 

[Hyacinth]

Item: Sheridan wallet?
The item looks in good condition and quality, but the coach stamp is a bit on the round side and I'm not sire if thats because its old or because its fake.
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It's genuine. The Coach name on the stamp looks round because that's what Coach's logo up until the mid 1990s looked like.

I believe that style would have come with a removable checkbook cover, which is missing. Give me a few minutes to find the name.

Got it. Sheridan Checkbook Wallet, style 4301 from about 1992 to 1994

 

[Hyacinth]

Hi there.
Sorry im not here to authenticate item.
But just want to ask opinion on something.
What do you guys think about this? Does it right or wrong indicator to authenticate coach item?
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Useless. There's a LOT more to authenticating a Coach than that. And I agree with what BeenBurned said about those "guides", also useless and in fact dangerous.

THIS Guide explains why:
https://forum.purseblog.com/threads/salearea-guides.983575/#post-32252971
I suggest you read the entire thread.

Do NOT try to authenticate Coach bags or other products yourself! There's more knowledge and reference materials involved than any guide could possibly include, and every bag or item has to be looked at on its own. There is NO "one size fits all" guide to Coach products and any guide that claims it can show you how to know if a Coach is authentic is LYING. And what they don't tell you is that all those "rules" they talk about have exceptions, except for one or two.

 

[Ava_13579]

Hello, Authenticators! I’d very much appreciate if you could please authenticate this.

Item: Auth COACH LEGACY WILLIS Messenger Dk Blue Crossbody LEATHER Handbag 9927 USA

Listing number: 254180625074

Seller: shes*got*sole

Link: https://www.ebay.ca/itm/Auth-COACH-...m43663.l44720&nordt=true&rt=nc&orig_cvip=true

Comments: I'm including two additional photos that the seller sent.

Out of curiosity, would the photos and info included on this listing usually be enough for authentication?

Thanks!

 

[Hyacinth]

Hello, Authenticators! I’d very much appreciate if you could please authenticate this.

Item: Auth COACH LEGACY WILLIS Messenger Dk Blue Crossbody LEATHER Handbag 9927 USA

Listing number: 254180625074

Seller: shes*got*sole

Link: https://www.ebay.ca/itm/Auth-COACH-...m43663.l44720&nordt=true&rt=nc&orig_cvip=true

Comments: I'm including two additional photos that the seller sent.

Out of curiosity, would the photos and info included on this listing usually be enough for authentication?

Thanks!

Yes, it's genuine, made in 1998, the name was just "Willis", no "legacy" involved. It's not unusual for sellers to get names wrong.

 

[Morgan_Bellini]

May I please request an authentication on this Manor bag that I just received today? I included a pic of the brass strap rings which appear to have been modified. I'm bummed about these rings, this was not disclosed in the listing and I don't like this modification. One of the rings is ground down to be very thin. Would you guys be ok with this??

Seller: beej31
Listing: https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/173849255761

 

[Ava_13579]

Yes, it's genuine, made in 1998, the name was just "Willis", no "legacy" involved. It's not unusual for sellers to get names wrong.

Thank you so much!

Sadly for me, the seller cancelled.
Don't be surprised if I request your authentication expertise for another one (hopefully soon!).

 

[hyungakim]

I found the source of your images and I don't recommend wondermika's guide because there are errors and misinformation.

I'm not going to take the time to go into detail but much of it is just wrong and will lead to both assuming fakes are genuine as well as alleging authentic items to be fake.

This is NOT a good guide!
https://www.wondermika.com/2014/02/spot-fake-coach-bag-see-pictures/

ETA: Here's another "guide" with some of the same pictures.
http://www.eleventyone.org/perbezaan-handbag-chanel-original-dan-tiruan/

Again, BEWARE!

here is the actual link where i find the 'guide'
https://siraplimau.com/elak-ditipu-...-tips-untuk-anda-kenal-handbag-ori-atau-fake/

Thanks for the clarifications. I don't know why there are people who are so confident to come out with their own 'guides' .... just because you have been purchasing Coach since ages, it doesn't make you an expert on Coach products.

And with those photos that has been distributed widely via online(which we can see it from 3 different webs), it could creates a misleading information to everyone.

 

[whateve]

May I please request an authentication on this Manor bag that I just received today? I included a pic of the brass strap rings which appear to have been modified. I'm bummed about these rings, this was not disclosed in the listing and I don't like this modification. One of the rings is ground down to be very thin. Would you guys be ok with this?? View attachment 4393435 View attachment 4393436

Seller: beej31
Listing: https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/173849255761

It's authentic. I probably wouldn't be happy with the modification. I wonder if they did that so the strap would stay where it belonged.

 

[hyungakim]

Useless. There's a LOT more to authenticating a Coach than that. And I agree with what BeenBurned said about those "guides", also useless and in fact dangerous.

THIS Guide explains why:
https://forum.purseblog.com/threads/salearea-guides.983575/#post-32252971
I suggest you read the entire thread.

Do NOT try to authenticate Coach bags or other products yourself! There's more knowledge and reference materials involved than any guide could possibly include, and every bag or item has to be looked at on its own. There is NO "one size fits all" guide to Coach products and any guide that claims it can show you how to know if a Coach is authentic is LYING. And what they don't tell you is that all those "rules" they talk about have exceptions, except for one or two.

Yes. If Coach can be easily to be authenticate by just seeing those things, i'm pretty sure that the 'fake manufactures' have taken actions to actually improvise those things.

Anyways, thanks for sharing the links. Gotta read it from A till Z. Also thanks for being super helpful.

 

[Morgan_Bellini]

It's authentic. I probably wouldn't be happy with the modification. I wonder if they did that so the strap would stay where it belonged.

Thank you for the authentication, I really appreciate it!

 

[Hyacinth]

here is the actual link where i find the 'guide'
https://siraplimau.com/elak-ditipu-...-tips-untuk-anda-kenal-handbag-ori-atau-fake/

Thanks for the clarifications. I don't know why there are people who are so confident to come out with their own 'guides' .... just because you have been purchasing Coach since ages, it doesn't make you an expert on Coach products.

And with those photos that has been distributed widely via online(which we can see it from 3 different webs), it could creates a misleading information to everyone.

Very true. Pictures like that comparing a real Coach to a fake only show ONE style. What about all the other Coach styles? (I have never figured it out or seen any official numbers, but when you consider all the different markets and countries Coach sells in and that they often make some styles to be sold ONLY in one market, like Japan, and that they also add new styles to their Factory Outlet stores, Coach probably introduces 40 or 50 new styles every MONTH).

And they only show fakes made by ONE manufacturer of counterfeits. What about the dozens or hundreds of other counterfeit makers all around the world who are making their own fakes of that style with their own mistakes and manufacturing shortcuts? It is incredibly foolish to believe that every Coach style has exactly the same details, (straps are a good example), as every other Coach style. And it is equally foolish to believe that every maker of fake Coach styles is making their fakes exactly the same as all those other fakes makers all around the world. But none of the people writing all those "authenticity guides" and making all those comparison videos seem to have figured that out.

You said " If Coach can be easily to be authenticate by just seeing those things, i'm pretty sure that the 'fake manufactures' have taken actions to actually improvise those things."
We know that very well, and the fakes makers have been doing that for a very long time. 10 or 15 years ago some of the members here including me were posting here and at other forums warning people about fakes, and we saw how quickly a "red flag" that we posted about that showed something was fake would be corrected by some counterfeit makers in 2 or 3 months. There were also red flags that we never mentioned in public forums just to make sure the fakes makers would not change them and we could still depend on those mistakes to keep showing us that something was fake.