Amanda Bynes Thread

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iluvmybags said:
The LPS Hold is far more stringent than what her parents could get. The parents could not legally force meds on Amanda nor could they effectively restrain her. We're told Amanda literally hates her parents now after they tricked her into coming to the mental hospital.

How in the world do you know that Amanda just sat there willingly took her meds like a good little girl? You keep repeating this same statement over and over and over again - Amanda was a 25 (26?) year old woman when her mother said that. Her mother couldn't force her daughter to take her meds any more than she could force her to spit them out and refuse to take them. We have no idea what went on behind closed doors, what battles may or may not have occurred on a daily basis to try and get Amanda to stay on her meds. Do you expect her mother to hold her daughter down and force feed her pills? Is that what would make you - and everyone else who is blaming her mother - happy?

I give the side eye to any parent who questions another parents actions and motivations without having any intimate knowledge of what goes on within that family's dynamic.
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Totally agree with all this. We shouldn't judge unless we are there with Amanda and her parents 24/7.
 
#1,862
I don't think I've ever seen one person anywhere say her parents could or should've FORCED meds into her or restrain her. I mean. . . lol! :confused1:
THEY were her conservators and announced they took her off them due to her being completely normal mentally. VERY different things IMO.
-They could've kept her on her meds, they chose not to.
-They could've filed a couple of months ago to extend the conservatorship and they chose not to.


As a parent myself, I'd be wondering if I'd really done everything I could w/ those kinds of decisions. Only speaking for myself here, obviously. I did not say they can force her to take meds or restrain her, just clarifying.
 
#1,863
I think it's interesting that so many people who have mental disorders go on medication, feel so much better, think they're fine and go off meds causing them to spiral even further down than they were before. It's the meds that are making them feel better. They seem to think their meds are like antibiotics. You take a round of them and then you're cured. Unfortunately it's not that easy. Mental illness is extremely hard on all those involved.
 
#1,864
^well I do understand them. I have intolerances and can deal with them. But if I had no pain from food for a while I think i am healed and eat everything again. It´s like you need to check you are still ill...
 
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MCF said:
I think it's interesting that so many people who have mental disorders go on medication, feel so much better, think they're fine and go off meds causing them to spiral even further down than they were before. It's the meds that are making them feel better. They seem to think their meds are like antibiotics. You take a round of them and then you're cured. Unfortunately it's not that easy. Mental illness is extremely hard on all those involved.
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Based on someone I know who needed meds to be "stable", he really didn't like the side effects of taking the meds. It wasn't that he thought he was fine or viewed it as an antibiotic so once he felt okay, would just go off them. It was more the case of him saying he "didn't feel like himself", it caused depression, extreme fatigue, he lost the ability to enjoy the things he used to enjoy, etc. He felt that he'd rather take his chances off of meds and feel himself than be someone else.

I've heard many people describe it the same way so there's clearly something to the meds altering what they feel is a natural state.
 
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MCF said:
I think it's interesting that so many people who have mental disorders go on medication, feel so much better, think they're fine and go off meds causing them to spiral even further down than they were before. It's the meds that are making them feel better. They seem to think their meds are like antibiotics. You take a round of them and then you're cured. Unfortunately it's not that easy. Mental illness is extremely hard on all those involved.
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Mental disorders and addiction are the only types of disease that try to convince you that you don't actually have it.
 
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I've known several women that were mentally ill, some as far back as the 70s. All have
committed suicide. My experience has shown that no one understands or gives a ****. I have no doubt that Amanda will die in the next few years.
 
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berrydiva said:
Based on someone I know who needed meds to be "stable", he really didn't like the side effects of taking the meds. It wasn't that he thought he was fine or viewed it as an antibiotic so once he felt okay, would just go off them. It was more the case of him saying he "didn't feel like himself", it caused depression, extreme fatigue, he lost the ability to enjoy the things he used to enjoy, etc. He felt that he'd rather take his chances off of meds and feel himself than be someone else.

I've heard many people describe it the same way so there's clearly something to the meds altering what they feel is a natural state.
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I wasn't clear in my first post. I was talking about people that I know that were on medication with little to no side effects and how they and their families would think they're cured and go off (I was thinking of this in reference to Amanda's parents thinking that she was ok when she wasn't). Medications with side effects are a whole different story. It's a really horrible situation to be in. Having a medication that manages some symptoms but then creates new symptoms that are just as bad in their own way.
 
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zippie said:
I've known several women that were mentally ill, some as far back as the 70s. All have
committed suicide. My experience has shown that no one understand or gives a ****. I have no doubt that Amanda will die in the next few years.
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That's very sad. People need to be educated and understanding of mental illnesses. I'm struggling with some issues of my own and it helps tremendously to have people you can talk to who are understanding and nonjudgmental.
 
#1,873
While I can agree to part of it - people not understanding, I do not agree at all that "no one gives a XXXX"
I think most people have a loved one w/ some form of mental illness and it's why I find it incredibly sad that there's still such a shameful stigma attached to it.
I don't know anyone personally that doesn't care there. It's a very traumatic thing to endure for anyone involved. It's beyond sad :sad:

Of course the meds make you feel like a different person, it makes you a different person. It makes the patient more functional. It's a double edged sword :shucks:
 
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One of my friends has very bad depression. Sometimes its frightening. The way he talks badly about himself and how useless he is to the world. He's a lovely guy with two kids. And he's getting on top of it with meds and therapy. But sometimes it takes incredible patience to be his friend. In the depths of it, he's said some hurtful things he didn't mean, but I also worry a lot about him which can be really tiring...sometimes he needs to talk for hours to ease his mind.

He only really started getting better when he admitted he needed meds and therapy wasnt enough.

To say no one cares about Amanda and doesnt give a s**t is really harsh. It takes a lot of love and patience to help someone with a mental illness. For some people..the toll on themselves is high as well.

To say she'll end up dead from it is really negative and sad.

Just a thought.
 
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