Amanda Bynes Thread

[TokyoBound]

But back to iluvmybags' point - why was there no shade thrown at Shia LaBeof's mom during his multiple meltdowns? I just think there is an unfair amount of vitriol being thrown at Byne's parents. Unless your or I have been in the shoes of the parent of a severely mentally ill adult child (and fair enough, some of you may have been), it's too easy to throw judgement their way.

 

[bag-mania]

The two issues are not mutually exclusive. Someone can have mental health issues and also be incredibly rebellious. She is not some mindless puppet. She has her own personality and she could very well be difficult to get along with, her mental issues aside.

 

[glamourous1098]

But back to iluvmybags' point - why was there no shade thrown at Shia LaBeof's mom during his multiple meltdowns? I just think there is an unfair amount of vitriol being thrown at Byne's parents. Unless your or I have been in the shoes of the parent of a severely mentally ill adult child (and fair enough, some of you may have been), it's too easy to throw judgement their way.

I think a part of the reason people are willing to call out Bynes' parents is that they initially refused to acknowledge that Amanda's problems stemmed from any sort of mental illness. By saying that she simply had a problem with pot when that did not appear to be the case begs the question of how much they were paying attention or whether or not they were in denial. Just my two cents though.

 

[buzzytoes]

But back to iluvmybags' point - why was there no shade thrown at Shia LaBeof's mom during his multiple meltdowns? I just think there is an unfair amount of vitriol being thrown at Byne's parents. Unless your or I have been in the shoes of the parent of a severely mentally ill adult child (and fair enough, some of you may have been), it's too easy to throw judgement their way.

I admit I am not much of a Shia LaBeouf fan so I don't know much about his meltdowns - I thought he just got violent with the paparazzi?? My issue with her parents is that her mom apparently doesn't think anything is wrong. If she never said that, then obviously I wouldn't feel that way. Of course we really have no idea what goes on in Hollywood, we take our news from the paps and speculate. It's a gossip forum, and what do you do in a gossip forum but speculate?

 

[Swanky]

Oh... didn't realize it was TMZs fault that Amanda's mom came out and said she's taken her off her meds because she has no mental illness, it's all weeds fault. K. Note taken.

 

[Longchamp]

By no means am I blaming anyone's parents. But some forms of mental illness have roots in past abuse. Nature vs nurture.
Amanda put out there that she was abused. I'm not on twitter or FB but did I read that hers was closed down after she made those comments? The parents are finally admitting their daughter has a mental illness not a chemical dependence psychosis.

In some personality disorder / schizophrenia ramblings, there is a sliver of lucency.

Amanda is at the typical age that schizophrenia kicks in full force.

 

[bisousx]

I'm not familiar with Shia's story but Amanda's parents are in the spotlight because she grew up as a child actress. Her parents do not live in LA, so safe to assume she spent much of her childhood in the care of Nickelodeon pedophile executives - with their consent if not encouragement. Just read up on it a bit more. Her parents, ESPECIALLY after those abuse tweets, get a side eye from me because they allowed their child to become a full time working child actress... It is not a safe nor respectable industry IMHO and I don't think her parents are innocent either. If anything, she should stay far away from them. Even before her schizophrenic episodes, she cut off contact with them for a reason.

 

[FreeSpirit71]

We don't KNOW the reason contact was cut off. It could be your typical breakaway at that age.

 

[Encore Hermes]

Not going to guess or assume if she was abused or not but per wiki

Amanda grew up in Thousand Oaks which is close enough to Los Angeles so quite possible she was not raised by pedophile executives.

Guessing that conservatorship could be transferred to her older siblings. She is the youngest child.

 

[TokyoBound]

I'm not familiar with Shia's story but Amanda's parents are in the spotlight because she grew up as a child actress

Shia came from the Disney factory via Even Stevens and grew up in LA. No one has really speculated though as to where his rage/substance abuse issues come from. I'm hoping he's better now and will make a comeback with his new movie Fury, which looks really awesome.

Anyway, you're kind of damned if you do, damned if you don't. I've read on other boards people complain about Jamie Spears being too controlling of Britney, and here about the Byne's not doing enough. I'll just end my part of the conversation with there is really no perfect solution as to handle a severely mentally ill adult, even less so the lower your income bracket.

 

[Swanky]

I'm not familiar with Shia's story but Amanda's parents are in the spotlight because she grew up as a child actress. Her parents do not live in LA, so safe to assume she spent much of her childhood in the care of Nickelodeon pedophile executives - with their consent if not encouragement. Just read up on it a bit more. Her parents, ESPECIALLY after those abuse tweets, get a side eye from me because they allowed their child to become a full time working child actress... It is not a safe nor respectable industry IMHO and I don't think her parents are innocent either. If anything, she should stay far away from them. Even before her schizophrenic episodes, she cut off contact with them for a reason.

I give a side eye due to their complete denial and playing doctor by taking her off meds.

 

[iluvmybags]

I give a side eye due to their complete denial and playing doctor by taking her off meds.

The LPS Hold is far more stringent than what her parents could get. The parents could not legally force meds on Amanda nor could they effectively restrain her. We're told Amanda literally hates her parents now after they tricked her into coming to the mental hospital.

How in the world do you know that Amanda just sat there willingly took her meds like a good little girl? You keep repeating this same statement over and over and over again - Amanda was a 25 (26?) year old woman when her mother said that. Her mother couldn't force her daughter to take her meds any more than she could force her to spit them out and refuse to take them. We have no idea what went on behind closed doors, what battles may or may not have occurred on a daily basis to try and get Amanda to stay on her meds. Do you expect her mother to hold her daughter down and force feed her pills? Is that what would make you - and everyone else who is blaming her mother - happy?

I give the side eye to any parent who questions another parents actions and motivations without having any intimate knowledge of what goes on within that family's dynamic.

 

[iluvmybags]

I agree with everything you wrote, but particularly the paragraph above. I see this as a gender issue more than anything. Men have agency and make their own decisions; girls are helpless little lambs and need to be protected, even into adulthood, and how dare Amanda Byne's parents not step into their role of perpetual caretaker for their ADULT child (as if that were even possible, because like I said, she's an adult with money, and until recently had the ability to move about freely). I HATE TMZ for throwing her parents under the bus the way they have. We have no clue what type of pain they are in, what lengths they have gone to to help their daughter. I have known siblings of people with mental illness, and one thing I have learned is that you cannot make an adult mentally ill person do anything (short of getting conservatorship obviously, but those are not easy to get, and not everyone has the resources to make taking care of their mentally ill child their full time job).

I honestly wasn't even paying attention to the fact that all my examples were male, but you do bring up a good point. I was going to cite Brittany Spears as an example, but I think that's entirely different situation - there are actually small children involved in that scenario - and IMO, doesn't even compare to Amanda's situation. Brittany had a breakdown at the height of career, and she's still bringing in the $$ - I think there's a whole lot of motivation behind that conservatorship than just the mental health of Brittany. If Brittany were trying to live her life outside Hollywood, away from the spotlight, if she didn't have two small children to care for and raise, if she wasn't worth the millions of $$ that she currently is - and was at the time of her breakdown - if she were more like Amanda at the time, would her father have hung so hard to that conservatorship? Would it STILL be going on if she were just a nobody, from no where and if she were trying to live her life more like Amanda Bynes has been doing? Amanda announced her "retirement" from acting several years ago and hasn't been doing much of anything - if Brittany did the same thing, would she still be under her fathers watchful eye, with him responsible for her every move?

 

[nycmom]

Thank you iluvmybags. No one can imagine how difficult it is to try to care for a mentally ill child, of any age. I have worked with these families and it is truly heartbreaking. Until and unless they reach the point that Amanda did there is often literally nothing their loved ones can do. And let's face it part of why she is receiving help now is because her breakdown(s) have been so public, if this was all happening without documentation she would probably still be on the streets. These parents are often helpless and will do or say anything out of desperation and fear. I have nothing but sympathy for all of these families and can't even begin to imagine their pain.

 

[gloomyharlow]

Mental illness is no joke. It's so sad because Amanda has worked all her childhood entertaining and making people laugh. Now as an adult she's going through so much torture and pain and it's all so unfair. I hope Amanda gets the help she needs, takes her medications and has happiness.