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Who's defensive? I was just asking is searching and posting negative reviews just an Askars routine and why is Alex thread always flooded with negative reviews by the same people who follow Alex's countrymen, castmates or siblings. That happened with Straw Dogs and Battleship as well. Sometimes I feel like some people are gloating at bad press and reviews. I wouldn't use a word "anti-alex" but now when you brought it on, it really makes me wonder what's going on :confused1:

And why I asked? Well because this seems to happen just on Askars threads. For example Robocop got plenty of criticism at the time but none of the bad reviews ended up to the Joel's thread. The Huntsman got some bad feedback as well but no one bothered to post bad reviews to Charlize's or Chris Hemsworth's threads.

So, if it was just about reviews you would think you'll find mixed reviews posted on the other threads too? :cool:

Thank you for the new photos and article Santress. They are amazing:heart: I need to figure out how to post on the new forum. Next time I may come bearing gifts :smile:

Not sure why there is a constant comparison with Joel and Alex, and now suddenly Chris Hemsworth is added to the mix? It's almost like an obsession. You can be a fan of both you know? It's not Battle to the Death of the Famous Swedes. Personally, I think Joel is a good actor but I don't follow him much. I don't know how other posters feel about JK but not many from this thread post in his thread on tPF

I feel like your comments are generalising the entire thread when really you're only talking about one poster whose views you obviously don't like (and it's blatantly obvious who that is).

And I mean, I was one of those speculating that Straw Dogs would be an indie hit, and it failed in spectacular fashion. :lol: The truth is Alex's reviews have been hit and miss, because the bigger films Alex has chosen have been hit and miss as well. IMHO it's a shame that he's done his best work in smaller films like WMK, Disconnect, DoATG and probably WoE - because these are the films that are niche, indie, critically well-received and just won't get the audience they deserve. His bigger films by comparison, have been blustery missteps ie Battleship, and he was lucky in that, because he didn't have a big part and he wasn't carrying it.

There's a lot of reviews on Legend of Tarzan because Warner have made sure this film gets seen by putting Alex & co on the PR pavement plus doing a tonne of screenings. It's showy and they are selling it to the max. You can't blame posters for negative reviews when at the moment it's coming in around 70% not great reviews to around 30% positive.

Owning up to the fact reviews for LoT are sort of bad, doesn't mean people aren't pulling for Alex to do well.

@BuckeyeChicago - thanks for posting that. It's nice to see someone recognising his other work.
 
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Sadly, we're posting bad reviews of LOT because the movie has received them. As have some of his other movies. This is the reality. So if someone wants to continually complain about it, and that other actors don't have fansites that don't post negative reviews, whatever. Most of us here aren't going to sugarcoat this, as much as we'd like to.
@free, I do like that NYT review, and not just because she liked LOT I know there are people who lump all critics into one hated group, but there are those out there who do try and actually not only write well, but have a good background in other things than just writing, it helps with their understanding and enjoyment of movies (or music, art, etc), and to try and express that to their audience.
Strangely, I'm having a FB conversation with 5 male friends, four of whom I've met in real life, and they're all going to see LOT, and think the reviewers who don't like don't seem to have confused the Disney Tarzan with the ERB character. I'll note that I had not a clue they all wanted to see it. Pity none of us are in the same state, we could all go together.
 
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@free, I do like that NYT review, and not just because she liked LOT I know there are people who lump all critics into one hated group, but there are those out there who do try and actually not only write well, but have a good background in other things than just writing, it helps with their understanding and enjoyment of movies (or music, art, etc), and to try and express that to their audience.
Strangely, I'm having a FB conversation with 5 male friends, four of whom I've met in real life, and they're all going to see LOT, and think the reviewers who don't like don't seem to have confused the Disney Tarzan with the ERB character. I'll note that I had not a clue they all wanted to see it. Pity none of us are in the same state, we could all go together.
I can understand that. Without any prompting from me, my better half said he'd like to see LoT. Because from the promo's it looks like a bunch of fun, old-school style.

Was it you who mentioned Starship Troopers before? I haven't seen that in years but now I feel an urge to watch it, it's so campy awful its fantastic. So...thank you (?)
 
I can understand that. Without any prompting from me, my better half said he'd like to see LoT. Because from the promo's it looks like a bunch of fun, old-school style.

Was it you who mentioned Starship Troopers before? I haven't seen that in years but now I feel an urge to watch it, it's so campy awful its fantastic. So...thank you (?)

Starship Troopers was me! Terrible, campy movie but I still love it. Another thing that Kit Kath mentioned was the Indiana Jones movies and it also reminds me that the Mummy is another kind of movie in the same vein.

Also want to agree about the hubs thing. Mine also saw previews and said he wanted to see it on his own. For the same reasons. No complaints from me.
 
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This is so sweet. :-)

Wishing my lovely Gorilla all best 4 the big opening of #Tarzan today from his little Chimp #TBT #AlexanderSkarsgard

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https://twitter.com/smoyer/status/748700833748049920
 
So, am fresh back from seeing LOT with my friend and three teenage boys...

In short, I liked it - better than I thought, given the reviews. I gauge these kinds of movies on how much I am checking my watch, or whether all the substance is a big pile of explosions and ridiculous dialogue and this is much better than that. The actual story is both credible and the device of using flashback to fill in some of the context worked. The scenery is amazing (although the 3D was giving me vertigo at times, all that swooping in off a treetop) and the story moves. It wasn't boring. The main actors were all good, even though it wasn't always long on dialogue, and the underlying humanity piece was well executed. Where wasn't it so great? While the CGI animals were very real, the interactions take a bit of suspension of disbelief, and there were some periods where all we were doing was swinging through trees following Tarzan. And, I hate to say this, but Skars could not hold that accent to save his life (or Jane's). It didn't ruin it for me, because she's an American in the movie, but he won't be giving Hiddles or Cumberbatch a run for their money in any further English period pieces.

The teenage boys really liked it and they are big Marvel fans, so I give it props for that - it doesn't have cool gadgetry and other warfare twists, so it was a good gauge that it could keep them interested.
 
So, am fresh back from seeing LOT with my friend and three teenage boys...

In short, I liked it - better than I thought, given the reviews. I gauge these kinds of movies on how much I am checking my watch, or whether all the substance is a big pile of explosions and ridiculous dialogue and this is much better than that. The actual story is both credible and the device of using flashback to fill in some of the context worked. The scenery is amazing (although the 3D was giving me vertigo at times, all that swooping in off a treetop) and the story moves. It wasn't boring. The main actors were all good, even though it wasn't always long on dialogue, and the underlying humanity piece was well executed. Where wasn't it so great? While the CGI animals were very real, the interactions take a bit of suspension of disbelief, and there were some periods where all we were doing was swinging through trees following Tarzan. And, I hate to say this, but Skars could not hold that accent to save his life (or Jane's). It didn't ruin it for me, because she's an American in the movie, but he won't be giving Hiddles or Cumberbatch a run for their money in any further English period pieces.

The teenage boys really liked it and they are big Marvel fans, so I give it props for that - it doesn't have cool gadgetry and other warfare twists, so it was a good gauge that it could keep them interested.

Awesome! So glad you got to go so soon. Serious question: Too scary for a reasonably mature 9yr old who also loves Marvel? Are the love scenes intense ie will I be getting "Oh gross Mum!" if I take said 9yr old. (Deciding if this is date night material or a family outing, I'm guessing it walks the line between both?) 6 yr old gets itchy fit regardless of the film, even Disney
 
No, not too scary. And the sexing was very limited, which was ok, because mostly undressed Skars was in every scene (and my lord, that is a glorious piece of work). I think he would like it. Nothing too gory.
Hmmm...ok. Something to contemplate. It's got an M rating here (Not recommended for children under 15, may include moderate levels of violence, language or themes.) Ta :smile:
 
So, am fresh back from seeing LOT with my friend and three teenage boys...

In short, I liked it - better than I thought, given the reviews. I gauge these kinds of movies on how much I am checking my watch, or whether all the substance is a big pile of explosions and ridiculous dialogue and this is much better than that. The actual story is both credible and the device of using flashback to fill in some of the context worked. The scenery is amazing (although the 3D was giving me vertigo at times, all that swooping in off a treetop) and the story moves. It wasn't boring. The main actors were all good, even though it wasn't always long on dialogue, and the underlying humanity piece was well executed. Where wasn't it so great? While the CGI animals were very real, the interactions take a bit of suspension of disbelief, and there were some periods where all we were doing was swinging through trees following Tarzan. And, I hate to say this, but Skars could not hold that accent to save his life (or Jane's). It didn't ruin it for me, because she's an American in the movie, but he won't be giving Hiddles or Cumberbatch a run for their money in any further English period pieces.

The teenage boys really liked it and they are big Marvel fans, so I give it props for that - it doesn't have cool gadgetry and other warfare twists, so it was a good gauge that it could keep them interested.


Thank you for the review. Interesting to read.
Can´t wait to see the film myself, but sadly still a little more than a week left to wait here in Sweden.
 
So, am fresh back from seeing LOT with my friend and three teenage boys...

In short, I liked it - better than I thought, given the reviews. I gauge these kinds of movies on how much I am checking my watch, or whether all the substance is a big pile of explosions and ridiculous dialogue and this is much better than that. The actual story is both credible and the device of using flashback to fill in some of the context worked. The scenery is amazing (although the 3D was giving me vertigo at times, all that swooping in off a treetop) and the story moves. It wasn't boring. The main actors were all good, even though it wasn't always long on dialogue, and the underlying humanity piece was well executed. Where wasn't it so great? While the CGI animals were very real, the interactions take a bit of suspension of disbelief, and there were some periods where all we were doing was swinging through trees following Tarzan. And, I hate to say this, but Skars could not hold that accent to save his life (or Jane's). It didn't ruin it for me, because she's an American in the movie, but he won't be giving Hiddles or Cumberbatch a run for their money in any further English period pieces.

The teenage boys really liked it and they are big Marvel fans, so I give it props for that - it doesn't have cool gadgetry and other warfare twists, so it was a good gauge that it could keep them interested.

Thanks for the the first hand, objective review. But seriously, what were the demographics of the crowd and what was their reaction?
 
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From a major reviewer, Time Magazine (Time.com):

With The Legend of Tarzan, Yates—who directed four of the Harry Potter movies, infusing all of them with the proper velvety, moody magic—gives us the best possible Tarzan for our time, one who seems to know intuitively what a complicated minefield he’s stepping onto. That doesn’t diminish the pleasures of the movie—it simply makes us feel better about savoring them. And sections ofThe Legend of Tarzan are so imaginative, and so lovely, that they deserve our open-heartedness, not our scorn.


Review: The Legend of Tarzan Is Revisionist, Anachronistic, Weird and Beautiful

Stephanie Zacharek @szacharek June 30, 2016

Sections of this film are so imaginative, and so lovely, that they deserve our open-heartedness, not our scorn
Conceptually, at least, David Yates’ The Legend of Tarzan, starring Alexander Skarsgård as the fantastically brawny lord of the jungle, just can’t win. It’s adapted from a series of boys’ adventure books written in the early 1900s, when racial and social awareness wasn’t anything close to what it is today, and “colonialism” wasn’t yet a word that was always preceded by “the evils of.” The world is better off, now that we’ve learned—or at least are learning—to think and talk about these things. But what about Tarzan, Edgar Rice Burroughs’ English and very white lord raised in the African jungle by apes, a man in tune with his body and with nature, but one who must also, eventually, adjust to the mores of civilization? The ape-man has lived for a very long time through Burroughs’ books, and through almost countless movie and TV adaptations, including the Johnny Weissmuller and Maureen O’Sullivan films of the 1930s and early ‘40s—which were, it should be noted, insensitive to issues of race.
So what are we supposed to do with Tarzan, now that we know better? It would be easier, maybe, to retire him forever than to try to replace his loincloth of casual unselfconsciousness with a specially designed supergarment of awareness and sophisticated thinking.
But it’s impossible for art to move things forward if we simply think of the past as a place where everyone got everything wrong. With The Legend of Tarzan, Yates—who directed four of the Harry Potter movies, infusing all of them with the proper velvety, moody magic—gives us the best possible Tarzan for our time, one who seems to know intuitively what a complicated minefield he’s stepping onto. That doesn’t diminish the pleasures of the movie—it simply makes us feel better about savoring them. And sections of The Legend of Tarzan are so imaginative, and so lovely, that they deserve our open-heartedness, not our scorn.
In the framing story of this Tarzan, Christoph Waltz appears as Leon Rom, an evil, diamond-hungry henchman of Belgian King Leopold II who, in this movie as in real life, colonized the Congo in the 1880s, to horrific effect. (The script, written by Adam Cozad and Craig Brewer, borrows liberally from history and from certain real-life characters.) Skarsgård’s Tarzan, who, as the movie opens, has already shed his jungle gear to become John Clayton, Earl of Greystoke, is living in London with his wife, Jane (Margot Robbie)—the backstory of how they met and fell in love, years earlier in Africa, will be told later in flashback. The British government—or someone—is trying to coax Clayton to return to Africa to check up on what the terrible Leopold is up to. He’s reluctant, until a visitor from America, George Washington Williams (Samuel L. Jackson), speaks up: He has heard that Leopold is enslaving the inhabitants of the Congo. Clayton cannot let that stand, so he, Williams and Jane head to Africa, where they’re met by Rom and his cronies. There’s a violent clash, and Clayton—who has by now stripped down to Hulk-style breeches that barely stretch across the expanse of his uncannily developed leg muscles—summons the memory of his old life as Tarzan, orphaned as an infant and raised by a loving mother ape to become master of the jungle world.
George Washington Williams was a real-life figure, an African American writer and human-rights activist who traveled to the Congo and was horrified by what he saw there, the grave mistreatment of the Congolese at the hands of Leopold and his abettors. The Legend of Tarzan isn’t a history lesson and isn’t pretending to be. But the presence of Jackson, as Williams, is crucial to the movie’s tone: He’s an anachronistic Greek chorus, sometimes comically awed by the vine-swinging and other awesome shenanigans his friend gets up to, and other times bearing witness to events that, even though they’re fictionalized elements of a summer entertainment, still point to unquestionably inhumane horrors. Jackson, always funny and sharp, isn’t just the white guy’s sidekick; he’s our guide into this particular white guy’s weird world. More often than not, his expression reads, “Can you believe what you’re seeing?” Because more often than not, we can’t.
Skarsgård’s Tarzan, with his muscles and Fabio-style tresses, is designed to look unreal, and he does some very unreal things. He’s the epitome of the strong, silent type, and Skarsgård plays this angle perfectly, partly as a sly joke and partly as a way of getting us to watch and listen. In one of the movie’s most striking scenes, he and Williams cross a ridge to see a pride of lions before them. Scary, right? But Clayton—or, rather, Tarzan—approaches them boldly, and suddenly it becomes clear that he knows them from his former life: He greets them with the nuzzling face-rub familiar to anyone who has housecats, and they return his solemn affection.
This is a ridiculous sight. It’s also weird and beautiful and daring—you have to laugh a little at its audaciousness, but it’s so completely irony-free that to deride it would only be cheap. Why not just enter its CGI-heavy bubble of wonder? The plot of The Legend of Tarzan is overcomplicated—the movie trips over itself in the last third, especially. But there’s always something to look at, and there’s always something, or someone, in motion. Skarsgård’s physicality in this role is key. Leaping and swinging and not saying much, his Tarzan is like an actor conjuring a sense memory, an intuitive sense of how things ought to be: The jungle is a rough place, but unlike animals, men shouldn’t kill other men—they know better. Skarsgård speaks through his eyes and his gait. No wonder he can communicate not just with lions but with elephants, too: He reads their language, spoken through soulful eyes and flaring ears, the way other, more boring cultured white dudes read French.
And what about Robbie’s Jane, the daughter of an American schoolteacher, a woman who seems very much at home surrounded by the wonders of the jungle? In flashback, we see how she and Tarzan meet, when he saves her from certain death at the hands of an angry ape. But mostly, she saves herself: Jane is frequently endangered in The Legend of Tarzan, but as Robbie plays her, she’s so hardy that you don’t worry about her for a second. If need be, she can even outswim angry hippos.
You can see why Tarzan falls for her. At their initial meeting—she’s the first human woman he’s ever seen, a vision in a fluttery white cotton dress, like something out of dreamy Victorian erotica—he sniffs at her, confounded. Her scent is like nothing he’s ever encountered. She’s entranced by him too, though she also keeps him from going too far. Her no means no, and he gets that. Eventually, they’ll have amazing, beautiful jungle sex, as well as a partnership in which they’re balanced equals, but that comes later. The Legend of Tarzan is true to its roots, but it also knows it’s stepping into dangerous territory: The present. Sometimes, it’s a snakepit.

http://time.com/4389829/the-legend-of-tarzan-movie-review/
 
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