How to go from 50+ to looking 20+ with plastic surgery rejuvenation.

[glowup2021]

@Tremere double jaw surgery is a major operation. Are you sure you need it? Ask 10 friends or family and get second opinions from surgeons. The risks are high and there is no going back.

I speak little Korean so rely on translators and photo printouts to communicate.

Hey @MissOrange I managed to read half way through this thread. I love your results and appreciate your knowledge on this subject. I am interested in plastic surgery to look better. I'm still young (in my 20s) but do care about anti-aging prevention as well.

I want to get ptosis correction, V-line surgery (Angular jaw correction + Genioplasty), facial fat grafting (stem cell), thread lift, and aegyosal dermal filler.

I can't decide between the following clinics: JK, Cinderella, Note. Cinderella looks very good but so does JK. There's not too much information on Note.

I know Vline can cause potential sagging in the future, I hope the threadlift and fat grafting can mitigate some of that. If you have any other ideas, please let me know.

Nana was an option but their V-line is way too sharp. I was also looking into ID and Banobagi but there are too many controversies surrounding them. Your thoughts will be very helpful.

 

[dpnot]

Hi MissOrange. It's been 4 years since your fat graft, can I ask if it has stayed put so far? Especially the one on your upper eyelid? I'm interested in dr seo for my fat graft now.. he has moved clinics now

 

[MissOrange]

Hey @MissOrange I managed to read half way through this thread. I love your results and appreciate your knowledge on this subject. I am interested in plastic surgery to look better. I'm still young (in my 20s) but do care about anti-aging prevention as well.

I want to get ptosis correction, V-line surgery (Angular jaw correction + Genioplasty), facial fat grafting (stem cell), thread lift, and aegyosal dermal filler.

I can't decide between the following clinics: JK, Cinderella, Note. Cinderella looks very good but so does JK. There's not too much information on Note.

I know Vline can cause potential sagging in the future, I hope the threadlift and fat grafting can mitigate some of that. If you have any other ideas, please let me know.

Nana was an option but their V-line is way too sharp. I was also looking into ID and Banobagi but there are too many controversies surrounding them. Your thoughts will be very helpful.

Hi @glowup2021 you are very young to want a complete facial overhaul. You have named 4 clinics that charge a lot and cater to foreigners. As I could not afford their quotes I went elsewhere. Try to find past patients from the clinics you are interested in.

 

[MissOrange]

Hi MissOrange. It's been 4 years since your fat graft, can I ask if it has stayed put so far? Especially the one on your upper eyelid? I'm interested in dr seo for my fat graft now.. he has moved clinics now

Hi @mlydzz I love, love, love my upper eyelid fat graft. Yes it has lasted for years now. Here is a photo from this month. See how full my upper lids are. Yes he has moved from MVP to run his own clinic Machimpyo. Can't believe I turn 55 soon!

 

[MissOrange]

Good time of the day dear MissOrange! I am ready to do bullhorn liplift. I remember you have performed the 1st in Seoul and second was done in GB, you were quite satisfied with your second liplift. According to my research there are 3 types of this surgery. Which one have you used???
This is what written on the most popular method:
'The most common procedure is the bullhorn lip lift, also called a subnasal lip lift, which involves removing the skin just below and to the sides of the nostrils.' -- Have you used this method???
How long is approximately the upper lip is motionless? As much as I understood from this site this type of surgery is not very much performed in South Korea? (I am trying to plan/use logistics of doing the surgery in SK together with DES revision, facial fatgrafting or better doing this type surgery before my trip to SK here in Florida, US).
Please advise.

Hi @Dilya,

I missed your post so apologies for the late reply. As you are in Florida go to Dr Mascaro for bullhorn lip lift which is subnasal (do not cut into the nasal sill) and may extend slightly around the nostrils to avoid a bunny mouth. He pays extra attention to achieving upper lip and philtrum symmetry too. A Brit Chinese friend had an excellent result. Can't believe she flew from the UK to Florida! Korean surgeons refuse to do bullhorn in my experience. They prefer vermillion lift.

 

[MissOrange]

Water does a body good and is better than a facial! I found someone else who has also discovered the rejuvenating properties of water...Fayfay Hsu! She drinks 350-500 mls of lukewarm water every morning for a decade. https://www.boredpanda.com/youthful...oogle&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=organic

Like flowers that wilt without water, so do our faces, especially post menopause! Before any zoom meeting or date night, I drink 500-800 mls of water. My face then looks refreshed and skin glowing!

 

[MissOrange]

My biggest challenge will be my 60s. Today I found a natural anti ager, Linda Kelsey, 69 yo British journalist and former editor of Cosmopolitan mag who claims to have never had plastic surgery, not even botox to her face? What is her secret? She is 2 years younger than her sister Susan who has had multiple plastic surgery procedures.

 

[glowup2021]

Hi @glowup2021 you are very young to want a complete facial overhaul. You have named 4 clinics that charge a lot and cater to foreigners. As I could not afford their quotes I went elsewhere. Try to find past patients from the clinics you are interested in.

I appreciate your response. I will only be getting double jaw surgery + Angular Jaw correction + Genioplasty (Vline) for now for functional and aesthetic reasons. Do you know of any specialists that are known for this?

JK is one I'm leaning towards because it seems like they have zero accidents and all their reviews are really positive. They give me a good feeling. I will try to find people who have had this surgery there. Cinderella on the other hand... tempting but all their models look photoshopped.

 

[Dilya]

Hi @Dilya,

I missed your post so apologies for the late reply. As you are in Florida go to Dr Mascaro for bullhorn lip lift which is subnasal (do not cut into the nasal sill) and may extend slightly around the nostrils to avoid a bunny mouth. He pays extra attention to achieving upper lip and philtrum symmetry too. A Brit Chinese friend had an excellent result. Can't believe she flew from the UK to Florida! Korean surgeons refuse to do bullhorn in my experience. They prefer vermillion lift.

THANK YOU cordially for your response dear MissOrange - your expertise, knowledge and experience is irreplaceable in this forum!!! I very much would count on your advise on my next desiocion of this kind of surgery choices. I have reread your experiences many times while being at work and simply while trying to understand many things...

Though I read a lot that the result is so very subtle.. I would like to have a very drammatic change ))....
Thank you Dear MissOrange, God Bless You!

 

[Dilya]

Dear MissOrange, I have decided to ask you this thing without beating around the bush: I have read some reviews after liplift by one lady. Her biggest concern was motionless upper lip. For a married woman who has a mature hubby it's a big thing - their s*xual life has been interrupted for the time of healing - for more than two month her hubby did not have a chance to have bj...

She was sharing it was the biggest frustration of her hubby... Therefore, I asked for how long the upper lip is motionless: I read reviews of no smiling, as if the upper lip is dead for more than two months... and then it drops and result become so subtle...

I am always postponing my decision on upper liplift due to this concern: motionless upper lip for more than 2 months - no private life ))

Sorry if my question was a bit too graphic here Ladies...

 

[MissOrange]

Hi @Dilya wow I don't know what to say. A few hours after my lip lift my OH dragged me out to a posh dinner party and I had to chat with people seated to my left and right. I never had any problems with a motionless upper lip. I wouldn't recommend going out the same evening as I oozed blood into my napkin. My upper lip has remained big for over 4 years and my philtrum length is still 11 mms. I would say go to Dr Mascaro Stateside or Mills in the UK. You can also join the FB group mentioned below 'Facelift info and support' as it also has lots of ladies who had lip lifts sharing their b+a's and all have no regrets.

I am researching FLs and have joined 2 private FL facebook groups (Facelift info and support, UK facelifts and other facial cosmetic procedures) where real patients post their b+a's without filters!

 

[Rensera]

Thank you so much for sharing your journey with us! I'm in my early 30s right now, but thanks to all your posts and advices it's so helpful to learn about the treatments and surgeries I might need in the next 10-20 years. Wish you all the best, you look amazing!

 

[dpnot]

Hi @mlydzz I love, love, love my upper eyelid fat graft. Yes it has lasted for years now. Here is a photo from this month. See how full my upper lids are. Yes he has moved from MVP to run his own clinic Machimpyo. Can't believe I turn 55 soon!

Thank you for the response. You only had one session on your upper eyelid right? You look wonderful!

 

[Dilya]

Hi @Dilya wow I don't know what to say. A few hours after my lip lift my OH dragged me out to a posh dinner party and I had to chat with people seated to my left and right. I never had any problems with a motionless upper lip. I wouldn't recommend going out the same evening as I oozed blood into my napkin. My upper lip has remained big for over 4 years and my philtrum length is still 11 mms. I would say go to Dr Mascaro Stateside or Mills in the UK. You can also join the FB group mentioned below 'Facelift info and support' as it also has lots of ladies who had lip lifts sharing their b+a's and all have no regrets.

I am researching FLs and have joined 2 private FL facebook groups (Facelift info and support, UK facelifts and other facial cosmetic procedures) where real patients post their b+a's without filters!

Thank you cordially for your response dear MissOrange!!!
Your answers are always kind, informative and higly supportive! That is so very great you are answering and sharing your experiences with everyone who needs it here. You are beautiful and irreplaceable!

 

[MissOrange]

Thank you cordially for your response dear MissOrange!!!
Your answers are always kind, informative and higly supportive! That is so very great you are answering and sharing your experiences with everyone who needs it here. You are beautiful and irreplaceable!

Hi @Dilya, hope this will spur you on to get bullhorn lip lift. I tried and tried to lift my upper lip to see my upper teeth but the philtrum skin was too long and redundant. See how I struggled to even smile. See the dramatic loss of facial volume that occurs shortly after menopause. Menopause with its dramatic drop in oestrogen wreak havoc on one's face and on the body may turn muscle into fat! Here is me at almost 55 looking 20s vs me at 49 before I started my quest to reverse the ravages of aging and look pretty again. It takes one seriously bad photo to realise you need to fix your face and this one did it for me. See how lip lift, eyelid fat graft, facial fat grafting, and rib rhino transformed my face. I am still holding off on facelift as I need to find the best surgeon for me when I need it.

I found an IG poster called @surgeonsourceress and she does one hour instagram interviews with individual uk plastic surgeons! Omg so informative on facelifts and how each surgeon does it differently and how from a £3495 VR vertical lift suturing the smas to the temporalis muscle under local with Nick Rhodes to a £13k smas lift with Jag Chana. She also interviews surgeons on breast and lipo but I am now concentrating on learning everything on FLs.

I learned that with FLs under local, the blood pressure is normal so bleeders can be cauterised so less bruising postop vs under GA the blood pressure is dropped for an almost bloodless field so when the patient awakes and the blood pressure is normalised bleeding and bruising occur which may prolong recovery.

I finally got around to getting a new passport with my new face! lol. No more 'is this you?" at passport immigration I hope. It is so cool that one can apply for a new passport online and upload a selfie! The UK passport site has software so it immediately ranks your photo from good to poor so you know if it will get accepted and you can keep uploading different selfies! Haven't used the passport yet as we are still trapped in the UK.