How to go from 50+ to looking 20+ with plastic surgery rejuvenation.

Dilya

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Hi @Dilya wow I don't know what to say. A few hours after my lip lift my OH dragged me out to a posh dinner party and I had to chat with people seated to my left and right. I never had any problems with a motionless upper lip. I wouldn't recommend going out the same evening as I oozed blood into my napkin. My upper lip has remained big for over 4 years and my philtrum length is still 11 mms. I would say go to Dr Mascaro Stateside or Mills in the UK. You can also join the FB group mentioned below 'Facelift info and support' as it also has lots of ladies who had lip lifts sharing their b+a's and all have no regrets.

I am researching FLs and have joined 2 private FL facebook groups (Facelift info and support, UK facelifts and other facial cosmetic procedures) where real patients post their b+a's without filters!
Thank you cordially for your response dear MissOrange!!!
Your answers are always kind, informative and higly supportive! That is so very great you are answering and sharing your experiences with everyone who needs it here. You are beautiful and irreplaceable!
 
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MissOrange

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Thank you cordially for your response dear MissOrange!!!
Your answers are always kind, informative and higly supportive! That is so very great you are answering and sharing your experiences with everyone who needs it here. You are beautiful and irreplaceable!
Hi @Dilya, hope this will spur you on to get bullhorn lip lift. I tried and tried to lift my upper lip to see my upper teeth but the philtrum skin was too long and redundant. See how I struggled to even smile. See the dramatic loss of facial volume that occurs shortly after menopause. Menopause with its dramatic drop in oestrogen wreak havoc on one's face and on the body may turn muscle into fat! Here is me at almost 55 looking 20s vs me at 49 before I started my quest to reverse the ravages of aging and look pretty again. It takes one seriously bad photo to realise you need to fix your face and this one did it for me. See how lip lift, eyelid fat graft, facial fat grafting, and rib rhino transformed my face. I am still holding off on facelift as I need to find the best surgeon for me when I need it.

I found an IG poster called @surgeonsourceress and she does one hour instagram interviews with individual uk plastic surgeons! Omg so informative on facelifts and how each surgeon does it differently and how from a £3495 VR vertical lift suturing the smas to the temporalis muscle under local with Nick Rhodes to a £13k smas lift with Jag Chana. She also interviews surgeons on breast and lipo but I am now concentrating on learning everything on FLs.

I learned that with FLs under local, the blood pressure is normal so bleeders can be cauterised so less bruising postop vs under GA the blood pressure is dropped for an almost bloodless field so when the patient awakes and the blood pressure is normalised bleeding and bruising occur which may prolong recovery.

I finally got around to getting a new passport with my new face! lol. No more 'is this you?" at passport immigration I hope. It is so cool that one can apply for a new passport online and upload a selfie! The UK passport site has software so it immediately ranks your photo from good to poor so you know if it will get accepted and you can keep uploading different selfies! Haven't used the passport yet as we are still trapped in the UK.

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seoulsister

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>>for more than two month her hubby did not have a chance to have bj...<<
We are not choirgirls here but blow me down....lol
It's true ps recovery can suck sometimes :smile:
good job we got MissOrange to lead the charge
 
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MissOrange

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Ms.O I cant remember if u had a FC done or is it just fat lost? Wow at the difference.
Hi @MOTTY26 the before picture was taken before I had chin shaving by Ion, before facial fat graft, before rib rhinoplasty, before lip lift etc. I weighed 99 lbs in the before photo, was postmenopausal and was dehydrated from drinking champagne. I hated my face and that was the impetus for booking rib rhinoplasty with chin shaving with Ion in Feb 2016, dealt with reop for the rib rhino complication, followed by upper bleph with lid fat graft at MVP May 2016, vermillion lip lift at MVP July 2016, full face fat graft at DA July 2016, top up Sept 2016 and so on and so forth. I would have had a facelift if a surgeon agreed but ASPS in Korea said no and Dr Amir in Kent said no at the time. I was not going to stop until I looked good again. In short the before was due to severe fat loss from postmenopausal drop in oestrogen combined with dehydration, ie growing old! I dare not go to a drinks event now without downing 500 mls of water beforehand and drinking a glass of water in between glasses of champagne. Seeing one’s face melt after a glass or 2 of champagne is traumatising!

My ideal face body weight is now 101.8 lbs. Somehow I have to set the bar higher to maintain the MVP top up fat graft from Jan 2020. I am noticing the corners of my lips become down turned if I drop my weight below 101.8 with a right sided minor jowl. This means if I want a surgeon to agree to a FL, I just lose a few lbs so my face deflates? Lol. But the research is taking a long time. I have read 600+ trust pilot reviews on Mr Nick Rhodes, I have watched hour long instagram interviews with Nick Rhodes, Paul Harris, Jag Chana, etc. I have researched realself and found a heartbreaking negative review on FL with PH that has made me think I need to put off FL until I am 60 or have it done by Dr Lee at ASPS clinic in Seoul or Dr Dongman Park in his Bio clinic in Seoul. But even if I get fully vaccinated, Korea is only allowing a quarantine exemption for those who get fully vaccinated in Korea!

I do ask myself why didn’t I just get a FL at Namu Jan 2020?! I had my consult and saw his b&a’s of Western patients and the price was very reasonable and he agreed to do one and had a dedicated anaesthesiologist. Although my weight was 96 lbs and my face was saggy due to being deflated so perhaps the need was artificially induced. If only I had known about the covid ban on travel...sigh. It certainly is keeping me out of Korea and more impulsive same day or next day surgeries! It was such a hectic week in Korea, starved so I could have same day op in any clinic, armed with a credit card and offered so many choices for same or next day breast fat transfer, to threads, to facelift, to v line and zygoma surgery! Such a big difference between Korea and the U.K. I rang for a free consult with Mr Nick Rhodes and his first slot is October 1! To qualify for his VR lift, one has to be able to pull up the skin 2-3 cms on the side of the ear. I can only pull up 1 cm but maybe by October and after I lose 5 lbs, I can pull up 3 cms? Lol.
 
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Hi @mlydzz I love, love, love my upper eyelid fat graft. Yes it has lasted for years now. Here is a photo from this month. See how full my upper lids are. Yes he has moved from MVP to run his own clinic Machimpyo. Can't believe I turn 55 soon!
You look absolutely gorgeous here!! Thanks for adding the info about Seo’s new clinic Machimpyo.

in the US, Dr Eshima in SF is often cited as the best but he is v expensive, keeps a low profile (his website doesn’t have before and after, just contact info) although you can see them in his office; (EDIT: I just saw that he retired.) He uses GA at a hospital in the area. I’ve never gone to him but I’ve often heard his name whispered about among socialites and ladies of a certain age. (Not a shill and have no affiliation. I’m a bit too young to think about FL at 35). my main interest in ptosis correction (imho Koreans do Asian eyes really brilliantly—you can customize your eye shape!), getting upper eye fillers for my direly sunken upper lids (I haven’t worn much eye makeup throughout 2020 because I can’t figure out how to work with my new eye shape and ofc all the makeup counters were closed!), some brow Botox/lift. Possibly temple (not cheek) fillers for that lovely youthful high cheekbone curve. And of course a revision rhino, or just some filler to top up an irregularity in the bridge! I noticed Koreans prefer fat grafts while US prefer fillers like Belotero - but stories like Han Ye Seul getting a lipoma from what seems like a forehead fat graft make me nervous. At least fillers can be dissolved....

I think Bray’s work is excellent, & the ladies who have gone to him are happy to talk on RealSelf—some even offered to meet up with me when I was in London because photos don’t do work justice, you know? They’re very open about complications and possible scarring too. He uses local anaesthesia.

Some Korean clinics do great work on native Koreans (who often go in groups and get surgery together for a better rate) but ignore foreigners unless they whip out a camera and film their journey. I’ve noticed that the best results on foreigners come that way if they know you are recording every step of the way (get a friend or nurse to film you when you’re recovering). Btw I would not rec a thread lift for anyone with thin (eg caucasian) skin, for the same reasons PDO eye lifts (the Fox eye trend) were a brief flash - they don’t hold up after a few months, & thin skin takes to sagging.

thanks again for such excellent info, MissOrange!
ETA: did you tint or microblade your brows? They’re beautiful and suit you well. I also noticed you started wearing light lip glosses and colors which draw attention to the eyes and away from the lower face (although tbh I don’t see a real cause for concern there...) The colors really look youthful and compliment your beauty :smile:
 
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