How to go from 50+ to looking 20+ with plastic surgery rejuvenation.

[Roxyella]

Okay folks my 55 year old face sagged +++ and eating cake and drinking a litre of water failed to reinflate my lower face. This means it is time for a facelift. I pulled at my face in different directions and the vector that looked best and most natural was a vertical pull to pull up what gravity had pulled down.

I rang Dr Dirk Kremer's PA Antoinette this morning for last minute slots and got one today at 5 pm! The consultation fee is £125 which is reasonable as some London surgeons charge £250.

It was amazing meeting Dirk Kremer at 64 Harley Street. He gave me a big mirror to tell him what I did not like about my face. We were both in sync agreeing that a vertical lift would make me both younger and more beautiful!!! He showed me where he would cut and how he hides the scar inside the ear tragus and behind the ear and in the hair so one can wear one's hair up.

I told him I wanted his turn back time facelift tomorrow and that Koreans book next day surgery as they do their research before the consultation. His PA looked up cancellations and there was one before September...June 15! Done! I'll take it! I paid the £1k deposit and tomorrow will get emails on where to get my bloods and covid test. It will be an overnight stay.

I am sooooooo excited! His patients have the best b&a results and I am chatting with one 3 weeks out!

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Hello Miss Orange,

That’s real soon - so exciting!! Good luck with your facelift! After a v line surgery and weight loss, I am having loose and saggy skin oround the lower part of face/ jaw line and I need the exact type of surgery. I trust your knowledge so much that I would like to follow your decision and go for a consultation with Dr. Kremer, but I would like to ask you about the price first? Sorry for my English. Many thanks in advance.

 

[MissOrange]

Hello Miss Orange,

That’s real soon - so exciting!! Good luck with your facelift! After a v line surgery and weight loss, I am having loose and saggy skin oround the lower part of face/ jaw line and I need the exact type of surgery. I trust your knowledge so much that I would like to follow your decision and go for a consultation with Dr. Kremer, but I would like to ask you about the price first? Sorry for my English. Many thanks in advance.

Hi @NewMe83 his prices have gone up from £13950 this month so you would have to check with his office. He has cancelled my operation for medical reasons.

 

[Roxyella]

Hi @NewMe83 his prices have gone up from £13950 this month so you would have to check with his office. He has cancelled my operation for medical reasons.

I see, thank you very much for your reply. Sorry to hear that, I hope it’s not too serious. Unfortunately it is not within my budget. Someone suggested me to do my research in Thailand.

 

[MissOrange]

I have cut out fat from my diet and lost weight from 102.2 lbs to 101 lbs and it seems to have helped me get back my “good day” face. As I am no longer a suitable candidate for facelift, I shall have to monitor my fat intake, ie no fat, to help control the weight of the fat in my fat grafted cheeks. This is good as a reduced fat diet will also help with my high cholesterol and lipoprotein A.

 

[seoulsister]

oh no, I hope you are ok

 

[glowup2021]

@MissOrange hi, are there any UK clinics or surgeons you recommend for facial fat transfer? I was hoping to only pay 2-3k in GB.

 

[hoodedko]

If you haven't posted your before pics, I would have sworn you were a promoter who was actually 20 pretending to be 50.

 

[Roxyella]

I have cut out fat from my diet and lost weight from 102.2 lbs to 101 lbs and it seems to have helped me get back my “good day” face. As I am no longer a suitable candidate for facelift, I shall have to monitor my fat intake, ie no fat, to help control the weight of the fat in my fat grafted cheeks. This is good as a reduced fat diet will also help with my high cholesterol and lipoprotein A.

You look so young and beautiful - the facelift can definitely wait for when you’ll really need it. Indeed, “bad fats” - and “white carbs” should be monitored for our health, weight and skin.

 

[MissOrange]

@MissOrange hi, are there any UK clinics or surgeons you recommend for facial fat transfer? I was hoping to only pay 2-3k in GB.

Hi @glowup2021,

Yes there is one board certified plastic surgeon in Hull, Dr Vasu Karri of Karri Clinic who does impressive facial fat transfer for £2,200. He even suggested fat transfer for volume instead of face lift and she turned out amazing!

 

[glowup2021]

Hi @glowup2021,

Yes there is one board certified plastic surgeon in Hull, Dr Vasu Karri of Karri Clinic who does impressive facial fat transfer for £2,200. He even suggested fat transfer for volume instead of face lift and she turned out amazing!

thank you so much. it says he charges 2,500£ on his website, that is a very good price. Probably better than flying to S.Korea all the time. Do you think its fine to go back to work after a day and if someone says you have a puffy face, just pretend you had an allergic reaction? lol

 

[MissOrange]

thank you so much. it says he charges 2,500£ on his website, that is a very good price. Probably better than flying to S.Korea all the time. Do you think its fine to go back to work after a day and if someone says you have a puffy face, just pretend you had an allergic reaction? lol

@glowup2021 wow he increased his price already! I checked his site only this month. Prices are skyrocketing for FLs in London from £14k now to £20k+ this month alone!

No you cannot go back to work next day as the swelling from facial fat transfer may be +++. It is worst on day 2/3 and can last over a week and the bruises 2 weeks. You may look like a battered girl!

 

[MissOrange]

I have now lost 2 lbs of weight in 8 days since Monday's horrific saggy face. I am never eating fat ever again! My diet is now back to alpen bran cereal with oat milk (no dairy fat) for breakfast with black coffee, lunch is noodles with OJ or strawberries and dinner is wholewheat spaghetti with lloyd grossman sauce or rice with seaweed sheets and salmon and salad. I am sworn off pastries, cake, ice cream etc. It is too dangerous for anyone who has had facial fat graft to the cheeks!

I have booked a full head of blonde highlights for Thursday. I can't get comfortable with brown hair. It doesn't reflect the sun as well as blonde hair and it is super hot in London this week...well 25C. I am also wearing spf 50 on my face and body in the hot sun to protect the skin, collagen and elastin.

Here is my 8 days b&a after I lost 2 lbs of fat weight, went completely fat free and wore my head compression bandage watching netflix in bed.

 

[MissOrange]

Time to take out your tape measure ladies! Dr Dongman Park of Bio Clinic in Korea has a guide for ageing based on distance between your ear and nose and between the bottom of your ear and where the jowl might start. Needless to say I have already measured my face and it fits the measurements of a lady in her 20s!

Today I learned that most U.K. facelift surgeons use staples along the hairline. This is something I am not happy to have as staples may leave staple imprint scars. Also while training in the US we practiced surgery on pigs and dogs and used staples. The image of staples in my head is not a good one. Although staples may be of use in abdominal surgery, it is not necessary for the hairline in my opinion and if anything could be an excuse to save time and time is money for some plastic surgeons.

Good to see that Dr Park uses fine sutures only. I think in Asia surgeons know that ladies insist on invisible scars. What is the point of having a facelift if one has to drape one’s hair over one’s ears and never wear a ponytail for fear of visible wide scars? It looks like I should be patient and wait for covid restrictions to be lifted so that I can travel to Korea without a 2 week quarantine. In the meantime I am trying to find a happy medium, ie a weight and a diet that the fat cells in my cheeks and the skin of my face like to prevent sagging from volume loss or from skin stretching from the weight of the fat graft.

 

[MissOrange]

oh no, I hope you are ok

Yes I am @seoulsister. I requested all sutures and not part staples and part sutures as I have allergic contact dermatitis. The UK surgeon was not comfortable with my request for all sutures and no staples and the best he could offer through his PA was taking the staples and sutures out at 10 days and not 12 days. My understanding through his PA is that he cancelled my operation as I could not keep staples and sutures in for 10 days and was concerned about my allergic contact dermatitis and how I would cope with internal sutures. He never spoke to me in person. I only got relayed his message through his PA by phone. I had bullhorn lip lift with sutures, internal ones for the soft tissues and muscles and external interrupted ones to close the skin with no complications. I also had blepharoplasty with muscle ptosis correction which involves both internal and external sutures with no issue. In both instances my skin healed and closed in a few days. My issues were with stainless steel staples that may contain nickel or titanium that I may react to, and that my skin heals fast so I do not need sutures in for 10 days around my ear but rather 5-7 days at most else my dermatitis flares up. Perhaps it was meant to be so that I could wait and find a surgeon who embroiders the entire length of the incision as they do in Korea. I must say I still marvel at MVP’s Dr Choi’s vermillion lip skin closure as there literally is NO scar! He used the finest interrupted sutures. I have to give credit to Korean plastic surgeons as they are the best at invisible scar plastic surgery procedures.

 

[seoulsister]

I suppose he has to follow his own protocols but I would hope he would have had the courtesy to tell you directly that he didn't want to proceed rather than get his staff to inform you but we know everybody likes to be the bearer of good news but no one wants the job of relaying bad news.

However I hope I would be like you and be philosphical regarding this situation though.

Like you said maybe it wasn't meant to be and either Seoul is calling you or maybe you will shortly find an even better London FL surgeon who does sutures.