How to go from 50+ to looking 20+ with plastic surgery rejuvenation.

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@pinkypuppet37 I paid DAPRS 2.5 million won for 2 full facial fat grafting and included a 10% tax refund. Be prepared to negotiate with the consultant in person. The price initially started higher! I mentioned the price given to a friend and asked to match this as she had been offered 1.8 million for one or 2.5 million fo two. They agreed. I have since negotiated a third as although the fat grafting has stayed in the forehead and temples (only had it done once there), I think I need a top up again to the malar cheeks and around the mouth to stay permanently six months after my second. DA started at 1.5 million won and I started at 700,000 won for the third. We agreed at 1 million won. I would say know your budget and if the quote is still too high over kakao, meet with Dr Kim in person and then afterwards try your best to get them to work with you so it can be affordable for you. If you are active on social media, this can help with negotiations. I feel foreigners should be paying as close to local prices as possible and finding clinics that do this and have board certified plastic surgeons then becomes a win:win.
Hi! you look amazing! is there any other clinics you recommend for facial fat grafting? I am looking at premier. Also to clarify DARPS stands for DA plastic surgery Korea right? Is this their site? ( DA PLASTIC SURGERY (daprseng.com)
 
Before you look at skin treatments or surgery, make sure you are not dehydrated. Here are google photo images of dehydrated skin.
 

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I have made it to age 55 without a facelift! I decided to go back to brunette. My natural hair colour is black but it is hard to find a box dye that doesn’t turn hair into an unnatural jet black so I have tried L‘oreal excellence 6.0 which is a natural light brown. My hair looks healthier darker without battling orange to stay blonde. And I can maintain brown without strong salon bleaches. Interestingly my Brazilian hair stylist shared that 3 of his Brazilian clients had facelifts in Korea! I replied that Brazil was known for plastic surgery and he responded that for liposuction and silicone implants Brazil had the best surgeons but for faces, they fly to Korea! If only I knew which surgeon in Korea his clients went to.

When a 20 year old looks 55, we think oh she has had a hard life and feel pity for her but when a 55 year old looks 20, they think freak! So I shall live the rest of my life without revealing my true age to strangers. Even at the airport they do not need to know my age as they just look at your passport picture and scan your passport to check identity. Only a hospital or clinic needs to know your age. In 5 years when I get my age 60 senior citizen free oyster travelcard, I shall have to carry my driver’s licence as proof of age as the TFL staff might accuse me of identify theft! Lol. So ladies if you look a lot younger, on pain of death, never reveal your true age unless you know for sure they can handle it and not glare at you like a circus freak!

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A word of caution when using sites like realself. I have found that one of the plastic surgeons they have on their site has stolen both his facelift patient photos from other surgeons! Dr Riaz Agha is a U.K. plastic surgeon who was offering free consults on realself. As I was researching facelifts, I read with interest and was impressed he had uploaded 192 photos to realself as examples of his work. I scrolled to facelifts and saw he had 2 examples of his facelifts. I was particularly impressed by the facelift of a young brunette....and then an astute lady in a FB group told me she had seen that photo before! OMG! Turns out it was from Dr Andrew Jacono’s website and an example of his facelifts in forties facelift! I informed Dr Jacono and thought if he has done this once, maybe the other photo is also not his work but stolen. I searched facelift images on google and there it was. The other facelift photo was not his but belonged to Dr Jeremy Hunt in Australia! This raises concerns about the other 190 photos he claims as examples of his work.

I reiterate the best way to be safe is to contact real patients as it seems even plastic surgeons in the U.K. have falsely advertised their skills using patient photos from global surgeons! Shocking!
 

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@MissOrange who do you prefer between Dr. Karri and Bio Clinic? You are truly the best.
@Tremere, Dr Dongman Park at the Bio clinic does extended deep plane FL for $15,000-$20,000 and has outstanding b&a results on Instagram. If there were no covid quarantine for arrivals to Korea, I would say fly to Korea. There is also Dr Lee at ASPS in Korea renowned for facelifts and a real Asian American lady posted her journey with Dr Lee on this forum.

If you cannot wait for Korea to open to foreigners without mandatory quarantine, then best to explore surgeons local to you. I have not found a patient of Dr Karri’s to chat with and in my opinion his photos are not as good as Dr Park or Dr Lee. But if cost is an issue, then he is the cheapest for deep plane at £7500.

Dr Michele Pascali in Rome has good Instagram results for deep plane facelift for around €15,000.
 
@Tremere, Dr Dongman Park at the Bio clinic does extended deep plane FL for $15,000-$20,000 and has outstanding b&a results on Instagram. If there were no covid quarantine for arrivals to Korea, I would say fly to Korea. There is also Dr Lee at ASPS in Korea renowned for facelifts and a real Asian American lady posted her journey with Dr Lee on this forum.

If you cannot wait for Korea to open to foreigners without mandatory quarantine, then best to explore surgeons local to you. I have not found a patient of Dr Karri’s to chat with and in my opinion his photos are not as good as Dr Park or Dr Lee. But if cost is an issue, then he is the cheapest for deep plane at £7500.

Dr Michele Pascali in Rome has good Instagram results for deep plane facelift for around €15,000.

Thank you so much. I'm located in Spain ATM, so I'm trying to find a good surgeon in my country. I'm super young, but I want to do V-Line, and I'm aware I'll probably need a lift after. I wonder if a SMAS lift will be enough.
 
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Okay folks my 55 year old face sagged +++ and eating cake and drinking a litre of water failed to reinflate my lower face. This means it is time for a facelift. I pulled at my face in different directions and the vector that looked best and most natural was a vertical pull to pull up what gravity had pulled down.

I rang Dr Dirk Kremer's PA Antoinette this morning for last minute slots and got one today at 5 pm! The consultation fee is £125 which is reasonable as some London surgeons charge £250.

It was amazing meeting Dirk Kremer at 64 Harley Street. He gave me a big mirror to tell him what I did not like about my face. We were both in sync agreeing that a vertical lift would make me both younger and more beautiful!!! He showed me where he would cut and how he hides the scar inside the ear tragus and behind the ear and in the hair so one can wear one's hair up.

I told him I wanted his turn back time facelift tomorrow and that Koreans book next day surgery as they do their research before the consultation. His PA looked up cancellations and there was one before September...June 15! Done! I'll take it! I paid the £1k deposit and tomorrow will get emails on where to get my bloods and covid test. It will be an overnight stay.

I am sooooooo excited! His patients have the best b&a results and I am chatting with one 3 weeks out!

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Always, always check that your plastic surgeon is board certified in plastic surgery whether you have your surgery in Korea, USA or the U.K. I heard on the grapevine that Dominic Bray is NOT board certified in plastic surgery?! What?! But he charges £26,000 for his deep plane facelift??? So I checked the GMC doctor’s register and it is true! OMG! So I then checked Dirk Kremer for due diligence and phew, he is board certified in plastic surgery. Ausgezeichnet!
 

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Okay folks with my face and neck lift in 3 weeks time and wishing I hadn’t dyed my hair so dark, should I dye my hair back to blonde or wait until after surgery? I might look okay dark after a facelift but then it is easier to dye hair before surgery than after.
 
Thank you so much. I'm located in Spain ATM, so I'm trying to find a good surgeon in my country. I'm super young, but I want to do V-Line, and I'm aware I'll probably need a lift after. I wonder if a SMAS lift will be enough.
Hi @Tremere, the question to ask is in which vector does the surgeon do the facelift. I think the vertical vector is best and not a pull sideways.
 
As we age we know the lower jawbone shrinks. After a FL, the length of the face may appear shorter and the cheeks wider as it now emphasizes a smaller jawbone but not as much a smaller zygoma. The golden ratio is changed. This means for some ladies it may make them look less attractive post FL if by shortening the length of the face and widening the cheek area, the proportions are further off the golden ratio.

Is there any way to prevent or slow down the loss of jaw bone as we age?
 
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