Woody Allen's daughter details how she was sexually abused by him in the NYT

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Oh really...
So Celine married a parent? Someone her siblings called dad huh?

Huh uh.
You miss the issue, it's not that a very old man married a very young girl.

Not to take sides, because obviously none of us know what happened and never will, but in regards to the WA/Soon-Yi thing, I would argue this is more common then we see/want to see. Celine Dion and her husband? Hell, my husband's uncle married his son's ex girlfriend from his freshman year in high school when she turned 18 and they've been married for 30 years with 3 kids. Granted, he wasn't a father figure to her but Renee sure as hell was to Celine.

If she was of age then let it go. That's not relevant to the abuse conversation. No one is calling the Duck Dynasty guy a pedophile for advocating the marrying of 15 year olds because they're more trainable.
 
Not to take sides, because obviously none of us know what happened and never will, but in regards to the WA/Soon-Yi thing, I would argue this is more common then we see/want to see. Celine Dion and her husband? Hell, my husband's uncle married his son's ex girlfriend from his freshman year in high school when she turned 18 and they've been married for 30 years with 3 kids. Granted, he wasn't a father figure to her but Renee sure as hell was to Celine.

If she was of age then let it go. That's not relevant to the abuse conversation. No one is calling the Duck Dynasty guy a pedophile for advocating the marrying of 15 year olds because they're more trainable.

Celine Dion had a father figure : her own father until he ultimately passed 10 years ago. René was her manager, he was in no way related to the family, but she fell in love with him and they began that scandalous affair when she was 19. Celine's mother did NOT approve, she was opposed to it until ultimately the rest of Celine family came around and said René was actually a decent guy. Those are Celine's own words. The son's girlfriend is not a sibling, you seem to miss the point greatly. Still, on the examples you gave things might be/look common but it's the tip of the iceberg so far, because they are not easy nor even less necessarily accepted, there is a difference.

Also Dylan came forward with the accusations before Soon-Yi came into the picture, things had begun to unravel several months before Farrow discovered Soon-Yi naked pictures, and Allen publicly saying that the pictures had been taken because Soon-Yi was interested in modeling.. Now unless your husband's uncle and René have been entangled into child molestation before the married younger women, the comparison is far removed from this case.

And really, the Duck Dynasty delfection is once again startling....
 
Not to beat a dead horse, but these quotes of his are shady. I understand that he may not have played an active fatherly role in Soon-yi's life, but to imply that he was in no way a fatherly figure, is CRAZY. His bio son is her brother. He actually adopted two of her (Mia's) other adopted children. When you are the father of most of soon-yi's siblings, that kinda makes you a father figure by default, no?

You hit the nail in the head! He's just making up excuses for the disgusting thing he did.
 
From L.A Times http://articles.latimes.com/1992-08-..._1_woody-allen

Woody Allen Denies Crossing Incest Line : Relationships: The actor-director says he was never a father to Farrow's children. He also says her daughter asked him to take nude photos.
August 23, 1992

NEW YORK — Woody Allen says there are no incestuous overtones to his relationship with the adopted daughter of his ex-lover Mia Farrow, and that he took nude pictures of the young woman because she asked him to.

"I am not Soon-Yi's father or stepfather," the filmmaker told Time magazine Friday in his first interview since the affair became public. "I've never even lived with Mia. I have never in my life slept in Mia's apartment. I was not any type of father to her adopted kids in any sense of the word."



Farrow has 11 children, seven of them adopted. Allen has acknowledged becoming involved with Soon-Yi Farrow Previn, who is believed to be about 21 years old.

"I didn't feel that just because she was Mia's daughter there was any great moral dilemma," the actor-director said in the interview for Time's Aug. 31 issue.

As for the nude photographs, Allen, 56, said Previn had talked about becoming a model and, after they became lovers, asked him to take the pictures.

Farrow, 47, was Allen's lover and the star of his movies for the past 12 years. She suspected an affair when she found the photos.

A Korean orphan, Previn does not have a birth certificate, but her age has been variously given as 19 to 21.

The romance became public after Allen sued Farrow for custody of their biological son, Satchel, 4; their adopted son, Moses, 14, and their adopted daughter, Dylan, 7.

Connecticut police are said to be investigating allegations that Allen sexually molested Dylan. Farrow has made a videotape of Dylan answering questions about the allegations.

Allen accused Farrow of fabricating the charge to get the upper hand in the custody case; Farrow's supporters countered that the investigation began before he sued.

"I have not molested my daughter, nor would I ever," Allen said.

He also said Farrow called him five times Friday, wanting to negotiate an end to the publicity.

"She said, 'Can we stop this grotesque publicity circus?' And I said, 'You have hired a lawyer, you're parading relatives and the kids on television, you leaked this videotape of Dylan unconscionably.' She said, 'Can't we negotiate this?' " Allen said.

"And I said, 'First you must clear my name unequivocally. And if you do that, and we can agree to give Dylan some real therapy to get over the dreadful scars of this thing, and I am part supervisor of that therapy, then OK, we can talk and see if there's a way of toning things down.' "
 
My 2 cents. I think that any man who is involved with his girlfriend's daughter is definately not the best role model. That is fudged up anyone you slice it. You trust a man and then he's banging your kid. (Its messed up even if your kid is 30) Plus,bring in the age factor and it makes the whole situation sick. My question is did he and yi have kids together? If they did would she allow her kids around him alone? Also, who cares if mia farrow is Cray. What does that have to do with anything?
 
I don't even care when they "technically" started their romantic relationship. I find it disgusting when any man can enter a sexual relationship with a girl he's watched grow up. "Father figure" aside. Even if it was just a friend of the family.. It's gross and beyond creepy. He's been a trusted adult and "family like" member since she was 12. And yes, let's not forget, it's his Son's sister. :faint:

THIS x100!!! It's completely irrelevant whether he helped raise her or not. He was still in a long term relationship with her mother and she is the sister of HIS kids. The fact that he can even justify the relationship proves that he is disturbed. No normal person would view their partners kids in a sexual way, and even if they did feel that way, they most likely wouldn't act on it because the average person has morals. A normal person would think "Hmm, these feelings are wrong and i'm not gonna act on them for the sake of NOT destroying my children and my family." There are some things in life that you just DON'T do. Love does not 'conquer all' in some situations. The fact that he couldn't control his disgusting, incestuous urges for his (sorta) step-daughter and had no trouble crossing moral boundaries makes me have no trouble believing that he would act on other urges regarding Dylan.
 
Not to beat a dead horse, but these quotes of his are shady. I understand that he may not have played an active fatherly role in Soon-yi's life, but to imply that he was in no way a fatherly figure, is CRAZY. His bio son is her brother. He actually adopted two of her (Mia's) other adopted children. When you are the father of most of soon-yi's siblings, that kinda makes you a father figure by default, no?

This is the most important thing and I think what solidifies him as a liar in terms of that "I was never a father figure/It was never that serious." WELL, it was serious enough that he adopted two of them...? If he was just some random joe like he loves to make himself out to be, why would he have done that? It's annoying because there was clearly a relationship between all of them, akin to that of a family. I mean they spent 10 years together, for christ's sake.
 
My 2 cents. I think that any man who is involved with his girlfriend's daughter is definately not the best role model. That is fudged up anyone you slice it. You trust a man and then he's banging your kid. (Its messed up even if your kid is 30) Plus,bring in the age factor and it makes the whole situation sick. My question is did he and yi have kids together? If they did would she allow her kids around him alone? Also, who cares if mia farrow is Cray. What does that have to do with anything?

They adopted two asian girls.

There's no reason for Soon-Yi not to think his alleged behavior is abnormal if she's experienced it from a very young age.
 
I realize that people are going to believe what they want to believe and that rehashing things here likely won't change anyone's mind, but for those who say they give Allen the benefit of the doubt... in my mind he used up any benefit of the doubt or good will and most of the presumed innocence when he began an affair with the daughter of his lover. Young people often make poor decisions, and her asking him to take nude photos (riiiiiight) didn't make it right for him to do. I work in the schools, and sometimes teenaged girls flirt with male teachers. The good teachers brush it off and handle it like the adults they are. Allen's responsibility, as the adult, would have been not to take advantage of that VERY young woman. Any possible father figure standing only makes things worse.

Allen proved to the world that he had a taste for extremely young and vulnerable women. I think it is only natural that people will be more inclined to believe the abuse charges because of that, and I think that's a totally reasonable thing. FWIW, I believe Dylan, and I still would have viewed (and did view) Allen as an abuser without her saying a word.
 
I realize that people are going to believe what they want to believe and that rehashing things here likely won't change anyone's mind, but for those who say they give Allen the benefit of the doubt... in my mind he used up any benefit of the doubt or good will and most of the presumed innocence when he began an affair with the daughter of his lover. Young people often make poor decisions, and her asking him to take nude photos (riiiiiight) didn't make it right for him to do. I work in the schools, and sometimes teenaged girls flirt with male teachers. The good teachers brush it off and handle it like the adults they are. Allen's responsibility, as the adult, would have been not to take advantage of that VERY young woman. Any possible father figure standing only makes things worse.

Allen proved to the world that he had a taste for extremely young and vulnerable women. I think it is only natural that people will be more inclined to believe the abuse charges because of that, and I think that's a totally reasonable thing. FWIW, I believe Dylan, and I still would have viewed (and did view) Allen as an abuser without her saying a word.

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