Woody Allen's daughter details how she was sexually abused by him in the NYT

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#226
The saddest part is people will believe everything that Moses says about Mia/Dylan being deranged while forgetting that he himself was a part of that atmosphere, and just because he is out of it doesn't mean his side of the story is necessarily the correct one. I think it's clear that Mia was a terrible parent and a narcissist (collecting children, terrible rage, etc. It's obvious) but that doesn't mean Woody was innocent. That just means Mia f'd her children up too. :hrmm:

It must really suck for Dylan. Having your accusations written off because your mother is crazy.
 
#228
I don't know how anyone can just immediately disregard Dylan's words. Even if Mia Farrow wasn't a 100% upstanding figure doesn't that make it worse! Because in a great time of need, her own mother was unable to provide the support and action needed to stop this situation from happening.

Instead Woody was able to take a step further, Marry Soon-ye and become completely normalized and PRAISED in the public eye. The fact that people turn a blind eye to all of this is disgusting.
The statistics for molestation in the world are pretty high, so I know there are people out there who can echo the exact sentiment. But once again they are pushed into the shadows of shame and fear. A lot of children are told to hide what happened to them and now the public is giving a large example of how little anyone cares.

I have spent time in Children's psychiatry and seen how long it takes for them to get this information out of children and once it is brought to light, you'd be shocked how disturbing it is. Children can sense that they will be 'punished' or 'guilty' for coming forward about molestation even thought they are the victims. Drawing out this information is a long and difficult process, that requires support from trusted carers. I think that Mia Farrow was unable to back her daughter up completely and that lead to this issue fading into nothing for many years. But with time and counselling (I'm sure) Dylan regained the strength to voice it again.
Whoever still doubts this, needs to stick their head out of the sand and possibly listen to some stories by children who were abused. Maybe then they will look beyond their sheltered existence.

Is a couple of quirky movies worth the happiness and NORMAL DEVELOPMENT of countless children!?

/Appalled rant
 
#229
"I'm open-minded about sex. I'm not above reproach; if anything, I'm below reproach. I mean, if I was caught in a love nest with fifteen 12-year-old girls tomorrow, people would think, yeah, I always knew that about him."

He added, "Nothing I could come up with would surprise anyone ... I admit to it all."

I find this troubling. He could have mentioned ANY act/s of sexual promiscuity or deviancy (and there are LOTS). But instead he CHOSE to mention being (hypothetically) with 15 underaged (significantly underaged, by the way) girls. Why would that have been the first thing to come to mind? When mentioning sexual debauchery, who on Earth would have sex with very young girls be the first thing that came to mind?
 
#230
First of all, I am truly disturbed by how many people come running to the defense of Woody Allen. No one would be doing that if he was a janitor in a school or just a regular person. But because of his celebrity let's give him the benefit of the doubt?! Really disgusting.
I believe Dylan. She provided plenty of examples of his inappropriate behavior - why do we always question the child that comes forward? This is how pedophiles continue to abuse. They tell kids that no one will believe them etc.
And Woody WAS a father figure in Soon Yi's life. Whether they lived in the same house or not, they spent time together as a FAMILY. They probably spent holidays together, birthdays. Also, why are people assuming Soon Yi wasn't molested? She was from stories I have read, one of the most vulnerable of Mia's kids since she was a homeless orphan begging on the streets. She was damaged and was adopted at a later age which makes her more vulnerable and insecure. How perfect for Woody! Whether he molested her or not, he groomed her to trust him. She probably has never dated a man other than him. He completely brainwashed her and turned her against her adopted parents and siblings. That is predatory and typical pedophile behavior. Look at the signs... they all point to Woody.
 
#231
HauteMama said:
"I'm open-minded about sex. I'm not above reproach; if anything, I'm below reproach. I mean, if I was caught in a love nest with fifteen 12-year-old girls tomorrow, people would think, yeah, I always knew that about him."

He added, "Nothing I could come up with would surprise anyone ... I admit to it all."

I find this troubling. He could have mentioned ANY act/s of sexual promiscuity or deviancy (and there are LOTS). But instead he CHOSE to mention being (hypothetically) with 15 underaged (significantly underaged, by the way) girls. Why would that have been the first thing to come to mind? When mentioning sexual debauchery, who on Earth would have sex with very young girls be the first thing that came to mind?
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I watched Manhattan for the first time last year. I didn't know the premise, just that it was a Woody Allen movie. Part of the movie deals with Woody's character, a man in his 40s, meeting and dating a 17 year old high school senior played by Mariel Hemingway. I was floored!

The movie came out in 1979, a year before Woody began with Mia. I'm still in disbelief that he essentially wrote and directed a movie that would epitomize the saying "life imitatiing art" (or, who knows, it could be that the movie is art imitating (his) life).
 
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#232
Woody Allen was in psychoanalysis for nearly four decades and psychoanalysis was a consistent theme in many of his movies. He stopped going when he started his relationship with Soon Yi. I wonder why that event made him think he didn't need it anymore? :shrugs:
 
#233
LADC_chick said:
I watched Manhattan for the first time last year. I didn't know the premise, just that it was a Woody Allen movie. Part of the movie deals with Woody's character, a man in his 40s, meeting and dating a 17 year old high school senior played by Mariel Hemingway. I was floored!

The movie came out in 1979, a year before Woody began with Mia. I'm still in disbelief that he essentially wrote and directed a movie that would epitomize the saying "life imitatiing art" (or, who knows, it could be that the movie is art imitating (his) life).
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There's a quote from Meryl Streep about filming Manhattan that I thought was interesting when I read this article earlier today...

Streep played one of Woody’s indelible intellectual women in Manhattan, but she is not among his defenders. In 1980, she told Ladies’ Home Journal, “I don’t think Woody Allen even remembers me. I went to see Manhattan and I felt like I wasn’t even in it. I was pleased with the film because I looked pretty in it and I thought it was entertaining. But I only worked on the film for three days and I didn’t get to know Woody. Who gets to know Woody? He’s very much a womanizer; very self-involved. On a certain level, the film offends me because it’s all about these people whose sole concern is discussing their emotional states or their neuroses. It’s sad because Woody has the potential to be America’s Chekhov. But instead, he’s still caught up in the jet-set crowd type of life, trivializing his talent.”
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HauteMama said:
"I'm open-minded about sex. I'm not above reproach; if anything, I'm below reproach. I mean, if I was caught in a love nest with fifteen 12-year-old girls tomorrow, people would think, yeah, I always knew that about him."

He added, "Nothing I could come up with would surprise anyone ... I admit to it all."

I find this troubling. He could have mentioned ANY act/s of sexual promiscuity or deviancy (and there are LOTS). But instead he CHOSE to mention being (hypothetically) with 15 underaged (significantly underaged, by the way) girls. Why would that have been the first thing to come to mind? When mentioning sexual debauchery, who on Earth would have sex with very young girls be the first thing that came to mind?
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I think it's very telling how he said this years before any of this drama surfaced. I think he's quite smug and calculated. It's sickening.
 
#236
bag-mania said:
Woody Allen was in psychoanalysis for nearly four decades and psychoanalysis was a consistent theme in many of his movies. He stopped going when he started his relationship with Soon Yi. I wonder why that event made him think he didn't need it anymore? :shrugs:
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I read that too. Very interesting timing.
 
#239
I believe Dylan. Just because the brother says he didn't see anything doesn't mean it didn't happen. I've read a few stories where one kid gets sexually abused and another doesn't and had no idea about it. One, a girl was sexually abused by her step dad, ended up pregnant, and the sibling had no clue anything was going on.
 
#240
kcf68 said:
Apparently Soon Yi was not the only 17 year old woody was involved with! They had a interview with another young lady who was 17 when she met Woody. Creepy little man!
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Very creepy. But I find it odd people defended Paul Walker when he dated very young girls just because he was " hot ". And they would of loved attebtion at 15/16 from Paul.

Both are / were creepos IMHO.

I hope celebs stop wanting to be in his movies but fame and money are too desirable.
 
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