Woody Allen's daughter details how she was sexually abused by him in the NYT

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Because of the snow I missed the view. Thanks for this. Now I know why I'll be missing it from now on. And maybe ABC should be flooded with letters from victims of sexual abuse stating clearly why as long as Barbara's there, they won't be.

Time for her to take a seat.
today on the view barbara said her and sheri's Twitter accts were flooded with reactions to yesterday's comments. She basically said she wasn't talking about dylan....her comments were only about Woody and Soon-Yi and their children.
 
Maybe Whoopi is hoping that Woody will revive her dead movie career.
I'm not really a fan of Whoppi as an actress and wasn't that iimpressed with her role in Ghost (I think that was the role she won an Oscar for?)
But to play devils advocate, I have to say she has had a big career and seems to be very beloved in the show biz community. I think she's won an oscar, emmy, grammy and tony.

So you're trashing her not for defending Woody but because she didn't speak against him?
 
I know right? People trying to rationalize his actions because it hasn't happened to them, and Barbara Walters level of ignorance in her comments and she has an adopted daughter herself I mean....

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A daughter who she had not had a good rship with for years!!




I only brought up the DD guy and the Dions as an example of how we tend to pick and choose who we call what. That's all.

And yes, I do agree that Mia's personality is just as irrelevant. They're both effing nuts in my personal opinion, but.that aside, it doesn't matter.



I find Sions situation creepy and people have discussed it too, but it definitlw not on the same level as Woody and his daughter and soon yi.


Maybe Whoopi is hoping that Woody will revive her dead movie career.







I'm not really a fan of Whoppi as an actress and wasn't that iimpressed with her role in Ghost (I think that was the role she won an Oscar for?)
But to play devils advocate, I have to say she has had a big career and seems to be very beloved in the show biz community. I think she's won an oscar, emmy, grammy and tony.

So you're trashing her not for defending Woody but because she didn't speak against him?
Haha, I came to comment on this....she doesn't Need a movie career, she is BANKING $$$$....Woody or not...
 
I never like any of Woody Allen's movies. Too much talking and not funny at all. Anyways, regardless of my opinion of him relating to his movies, I believe Dylan is most likely molested by him. The raw feeling from her recounting seemed very real. Plus the fact that he got involved with a 17 year old who is now his wife makes me think he likes them "young". Who knows how many others there are....I'll be worried about his current step-daughters. :sad::sick:
 
Perhaps Barbara Walters sees it as Woody's relationship with Mia was over and he gets to know her adopted daughter, at the request of Mia. He falls in love and marries the girl and they have children of their own and have stayed together for over 20 years. He didn't molest her and move on. He made a life with her. He loved her and they are committed, something he never did with Mia.I think that is what Walters was saying.
Then Walters needs a dose of a sanity. This wasn’t love’s young dream or some Merchant Ivory special. Mia found nudie pics of her adopted daughter in his possession! That is some foul, creepy sick ****. He fell in love, in his own words, “the heart wants what it wants” with a child when he was a grown man, and not just any child, but the adopted child of his partner.

i bet none of those supporters would let their 7 year old daughter sit next to him at dinner.
Yes, this. I want every person out there who is so quick to disbelieve Dylan to have Woody over to babysit.

So because Soon-Yi is Mia Farrow daughter, the so-called correction lessens the gravity of the situation? So if your 18 years old daughter starts dating your then partner just as soon as you broke up, you find naked pics of her in a drawer, you will be okay with it
And also because you know, your ex-partner never formally adopted your daughter anyway, so it’s all good. Nevermind that he was around enough to bond with and familiarise himself with your family and kids which implies that he was around enough.

I'd really like to know what her life is like. Estranged from her family and probably associates with people she met solely through him.
I think Ronan Farrow (love him!) has said that they are estranged. Soon Yi doesn’t contact them and they don’t contact her. The relationship affected everyone in the family.

The startling thing in your post is not only you say you are going to be heartbroken but you keep deflecting by bringing Mia Farrow into the equation, as if doubting and comparing her antics gives weight to your answer. Oh well...
And in actual fact, that Dylan Farrow is still, years later sticking to her story should be enough to put to rest the notion that Mia “planted” abuse seeds in her head. For a woman like Mia who’s gone on to adopt a million kids, that rings false. And like others have said in this thread, Mia’s alleged craziness is no bearing on Dylan’s claims. Dylan can have a crazy mother and still have been abused by her father.
 
I just thought I'd add my tuppence worth; if these allegations are true (personally I'm inclined to believe Dylan), then have we learnt nothing over the last few years regarding vulnerable children ? Jimmy Saville went to his grave unpunished because no one wanted to challenge one of the biggest celebrity in the UK, certainly he did so much for charity no one dared rock the boat, even the police didn't really look into the allegations and his victims were treated like dirt for a long time! It took his death for victims to come out one by one, and people who should have known better to admit, yeah, actually we knew something was going on, but......
If the allegations are true what kind of message is being sent out, other victims, even children who are being abused now will only see a high profile name can get away with it, and if they look back at the original case, why would they want to put themselves through a fresh ordeal, being made to go over and over, with a high probability that no one will believe them ?
 
This really is the most sickening and heartwrenching story and I include all child victims of abuse in that sentiment. I'm just gonna leave this here because it's the best summation of this issue I've read so far:

Courtesy of: http://thenewinquiry.com/blogs/zunguzungu/woody-allens-good-name/

Woody Allen’s Good Name
By AARON BADY
This is a basic principle: until it is proven otherwise, beyond a reasonable doubt, it’s important to extend the presumption of innocence to Dylan Farrow, and presume that she is not guilty of the crime of lying about what Woody Allen did to her.

If you are saying things like “We can’t really know what happened” and extra-specially pleading on behalf of the extra-special Woody AllenHi, The Daily Beast!, then you are saying that his innocence is more presumptive than hers. You are saying that he is on trial, not her: he deserves judicial safeguards in the court of public opinion, but she does not.

The damnably difficult thing about all of this, of course, is that you can’t presume that both are innocent at the same time. One of them must be saying something that is not true. But “he said, she said” doesn’t resolve to “let’s start by assuming she’s lying,” except in a rape culture, and if you are presuming his innocence by presuming her mendacity, you are rape cultured. It works both ways, or should: if one of them has to be lying for the other to be telling the truth, then presuming the innocence of one produces a presumption of the other’s guilt. And Woody Allen cannot be presumed to be innocent of molesting a child unless she is presumed to be lying to us.
 
Saw this on TMZ this morning:

There was smoke nearly 40 years ago -- Woody Allen didn't explicitly say he was a pedophile ...but he sure came close ... openly describing a hypothetical orgy involving him and fifteen 12-year-old girls.

TMZ dug up the 1976 interview published in People. Then 41-year-old Woody said, "I'm open-minded about sex. I'm not above reproach; if anything, I'm below reproach. I mean, if I was caught in a love nest with fifteen 12-year-old girls tomorrow, people would think, yeah, I always knew that about him."

He added, "Nothing I could come up with would surprise anyone ... I admit to it all."

And here's another gem: "It's no accomplishment to have or raise kids. Any fool can do it."

Funny ... because 4 years later -- in 1980 -- Woody began dating actress Mia Farrow, with whom he'd have one child and adopt two, including daughter Dylan ... who later accused him of sexually assaulting her at age 7. He then married her sister.

Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2014/02/05/woody-allen-12-year-old-sex-interview-pedophile/#ixzz2sSF8CuYS
 
I'm commenting on Whoopi Goldberg's dead movie career, not her $$$$ as you say. The last movie I heard she was doing is Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. I don't think that will revive her Oscar winning career. :giggles:
 
I'm not really a fan of Whoppi as an actress and wasn't that iimpressed with her role in Ghost (I think that was the role she won an Oscar for?)
But to play devils advocate, I have to say she has had a big career and seems to be very beloved in the show biz community. I think she's won an oscar, emmy, grammy and tony.

So you're trashing her not for defending Woody but because she didn't speak against him?


I'm not trashing her. I'm merely speculating a reason why she did it. The last movie I heard she is doing is Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and like I said before, I don't think that will revive her Oscar winning movie career. ;)

Don't mean to offend the Turtle fans. :back2topic:
 
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soon yi is probably just waiting for him to die…at least i hope she is.

I know this is a horrible situation but that really cracked me up! :laugh:


http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20783306,00.html

Dylan Farrow's Brother Moses Defends Woody Allen

Dylan Farrow's Feb. 1 open letter to The New York Times detailing sexual molestation she says she suffered at the hands of her father Woody Allen reignited a controversy that has divided their family bitterly for more than 20 years.

Now her brother Moses Farrow is speaking out to defend Allen – and accuse their mother, Mia Farrow, of poisoning the children against their father.

"My mother drummed it into me to hate my father for tearing apart the family and sexually molesting my sister," Moses, 36, tells PEOPLE in the magazine's new issue. "And I hated him for her for years. I see now that this was a vengeful way to pay him back for falling in love with Soon-Yi."

A Family Divided

Moses and Dylan, 28, both adopted by Allen and Farrow, and their brother Ronan, 26, were in the center of a 1993 custody battle in which both sides testified about Allen's affair with Farrow's adopted daughter Soon-Yi Previn, whom Allen went on to marry in 1997. Farrow was awarded custody of the couple's three children. (In total, she has 14 kids from her marriages and solo adoptions.) Allen, 78, who was investigated but not charged with molestation, has for decades denied abusing Dylan, maintaining that Farrow, 69, coached Dylan, an accusation Farrow has always denied.

"Of course Woody did not molest my sister," says Moses, who is estranged from Farrow and many of his siblings and is close to Allen and Soon-Yi. "She loved him and looked forward to seeing him when he would visit. She never hid from him until our mother succeeded in creating the atmosphere of fear and hate towards him. The day in question, there were six or seven of us in the house. We were all in public rooms and no one, not my father or sister, was off in any private spaces. My mother was conveniently out shopping. I don’t know if my sister really believes she was molested or is trying to please her mother. Pleasing my mother was very powerful motivation because to be on her wrong side was horrible."

Dylan's Response

Dylan insists that she is telling the truth.

"This is such a betrayal to me and my whole family," she tells PEOPLE in response to her brother's comments. "My memories are the truth and they are mine and I will live with that for the rest of my life."

"My mother never coached me," Dylan says. "She never planted false memories in my brain. My memories are mine. I remember them. She was distraught when I told her. When I came forward with my story she was hoping against hope that I had made it up. In one of the most heartbreaking conversations I have ever had, she sat me down and asked me if I was telling the truth. She said that Dad said he didn’t do anything. and I said, 'He's lying.' "

Painful Memories

Moses accuses Farrow of bullying him as well. "Our mother has misled the public into believing it was a happy household of both biological and adopted children," he says. "From an early age, my mother demanded obedience and I was often hit as a child. She went into unbridled rages if we angered her, which was intimidating at the very least and often horrifying, leaving us not knowing what she would do."

"I don't know where he gets this about getting beaten," counters Dylan. "We were sent to our rooms sometimes."

"I will not see my family dragged down like this," she adds. "I can't stay silent when my family needs me and I will not abandon them like Soon-Yi and Moses. My brother is dead to me. My mother is so brave and so courageous and taught me what it means to be strong and brave and tell the truth even in the face of these monstrous lies."

Farrow, who declined to respond to Moses's accusations, Tweeted, "I love my daughter. I will always protect her. A lot of ugliness is going to be aimed at me. But this is not about me, it's about her truth."

Moses, a family therapist, says that his own life has been made better by spending time with Allen.

"I think my sister is missing a great deal in life in not reconnecting with her father, who had always adored her," he says. "It’s important that she assert her independence from our mother and not go through life with the false impression that she has been molested by my father. I am very happy I have come into my own power, separating from my mother, which has led to a positive reunion with my father."

'Horrible Tragedy'

Allen's family says that the director is devastated by Dylan's letter.

"This is a horrible, horrible tragedy," Allen's sister Letty Aronson tells PEOPLE. "He feels very badly for Dylan, that she has been so poisoned by her mother."

Dylan, of course, feels very differently.

"I have a wonderful family," she says. "We are brave and we are truthful and anyone who says anything otherwise does not know us."
 
Apparently Soon Yi was not the only 17 year old woody was involved with! They had a interview with another young lady who was 17 when she met Woody. Creepy little man!
 
Then Walters needs a dose of a sanity. This wasn’t love’s young dream or some Merchant Ivory special. Mia found nudie pics of her adopted daughter in his possession! That is some foul, creepy sick ****. He fell in love, in his own words, “the heart wants what it wants” with a child when he was a grown man, and not just any child, but the adopted child of his partner.


Yes, this. I want every person out there who is so quick to disbelieve Dylan to have Woody over to babysit.


And also because you know, your ex-partner never formally adopted your daughter anyway, so it’s all good. Nevermind that he was around enough to bond with and familiarise himself with your family and kids which implies that he was around enough.


I think Ronan Farrow (love him!) has said that they are estranged. Soon Yi doesn’t contact them and they don’t contact her. The relationship affected everyone in the family.


And in actual fact, that Dylan Farrow is still, years later sticking to her story should be enough to put to rest the notion that Mia “planted” abuse seeds in her head. For a woman like Mia who’s gone on to adopt a million kids, that rings false. And like others have said in this thread, Mia’s alleged craziness is no bearing on Dylan’s claims. Dylan can have a crazy mother and still have been abused by her father.

Nevermind he had a child with her, who was Soon-Yi's brother. Nevermind that he adopted two of her adopted children as his own Nevermind all of that. He definitely didn't have any contact or familial relationship with Soon-Yi. Out of all of them. :laugh:

I just thought I'd add my tuppence worth; if these allegations are true (personally I'm inclined to believe Dylan), then have we learnt nothing over the last few years regarding vulnerable children ? Jimmy Saville went to his grave unpunished because no one wanted to challenge one of the biggest celebrity in the UK, certainly he did so much for charity no one dared rock the boat, even the police didn't really look into the allegations and his victims were treated like dirt for a long time! It took his death for victims to come out one by one, and people who should have known better to admit, yeah, actually we knew something was going on, but......
If the allegations are true what kind of message is being sent out, other victims, even children who are being abused now will only see a high profile name can get away with it, and if they look back at the original case, why would they want to put themselves through a fresh ordeal, being made to go over and over, with a high probability that no one will believe them ?

This is true. I always think of Saville when people defend Woody. It is sick how these men can get away with it, with all their money and power. Obviously trashing Dylan the way that people *and other celebs* are doing dissuades other victims from stepping out. Why would they bother if they are just going to be trashed and called a liar? And then people ask why more victims aren't stepping out... :rolleyes: It's a vicious circle. It is so sad.

There was another English musician (Ian Watkins) who recently got convicted of rape, pedophilia, recording himself doing nasty things with a baby. I remember reading about it in the news two years ago and everyone was calling the people accusing him liars. I remember all of the truths trickling down and people still didn't believe what was being said about him. No one bothered doing any investigations, nothing. It has been around on the internet that he was a nasty pedophile and abuser for years, yet no one bothered to do anything until the authorities were searching him for drugs (I think?) and found the videos... it's sick. He's still making bank from jail, too.
 
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