glad to hear you don't respect other cultures!
Where on her post does it seem like she doesn't respect other cultures. Being respectful of other's culture does not mean you must tolerate ignorance.
Who let this woman into Hermés?!
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Where on her post does it seem like she doesn't respect other cultures. Being respectful of other's culture does not mean you must tolerate ignorance.
I don't.
I was born (to a lower upper class family, although, I was sent to a state school because my mother was a socially-minded Liberal; so I can see it from both sides) and live in the UK and I can assure you that it's not, in any way, acceptable to talk like that.
It doesn't mean that certain people don't talk like that, of course, but it is certainly not considered to be polite.
Even if it was acceptable, it's one thing being tolerant of different social customs and forms of speech when they are innocently meant and harmless (e.g. British Asians call themselves 'Oriental', because the term is not considered offensive over here and 'Asian' is the group name for people from India and Pakistan etc. here; whereas, I know the term 'Oriental', in reference to people, is considered offensive in the States), but it is quite another to be accepting of rudeness, or worse, just because the poster is 'foreign'.
For example, I would not tolerate someone talking of cruelty to children and/or women and/or animals as if it was OK, just because it was considered 'socially acceptable' by the dominant forces in their country (i.e. cruel and/or sexist men).
If by doing that I 'offended' those cruel and/or sexist men, then all to the good!!!
ERRR!!! makes me soo mad
DH is from Pakistan, We live in the UK, he knows where Pakistan is, its in Asia!!!. He is Asian. I know he is Asian, not Oriental, and I went to a state school. Geography is geography, no matter how liberal minded you are!!!
I have yet to meet an Asian from Pakistan or India who calls themselves Oriental.
But. I guess in some sort of way I know what you mean. Its all about acceptance and tolerance.
Life can be a wonderful and diverse experience.
Its all about culture, music and fashion.
I think Colleen might be like America's Tara Reid. Although I'd rather not judge whether or not a person is worthy of carrying a certain bag, I wouldn't want to see a drug-snorting-alcoholic-fame-hungry woman toting something I covet dearly.
(I don't think either woman fall into the category)
(I don't think either woman fall into the category)
ERRR!!! makes me soo mad
DH is from Pakistan, We live in the UK, he knows where Pakistan is, its in Asia!!!. He is Asian. I know he is Asian, not Oriental, and I went to a state school. Geography is geography, no matter how liberal minded you are!!!
I have yet to meet an Asian from Pakistan or India who calls themselves Oriental.
But. I guess in some sort of way I know what you mean. Its all about acceptance and tolerance.
Life can be a wonderful and diverse experience.
Its all about culture, music and fashion.
I think you're misunderstanding what Chloehandbags is trying to say. She would agree that your husband is Asian and not Oriental, but let's say me -I'm Japanese, in the UK people may refer to me as Oriental and it'll be completely benign whereas in the US calling me Oriental is considered offensive. In Canada I just say Asian. That said, if I was in the US and a Brit were to call me Oriental I would not be upset because of the non-offensive intent of their words. I may also let them know that we tend not to use the term in reference to people.
glad to hear you don't respect other cultures!
What I was trying to say (and failing, apparently! LOL!), was that I respect other cultures, or the parts of other cultures, that deserve respect.
I don't, however, feel under any moral obligation to respect cultures, or the parts of cultures, where mistreatment and/or the torturing and killing of women and/or children and/or unnecessary cruelty to animals is considered acceptable (in the latter case, that would include a disrespect for that part of my own culture [e.g. intensive farming, fur production etc.]).
In fact, I think it is my moral obligation, as a global citizen, to disrespect these despicable practices.
I'm not a fan but - She is actually a very astute business woman, and is currently worth more than her fiance. She was thrust into the UK limelight, courtesy of our unforgiving media, and at 16 I think she handled herself exceptionally well. She even retained her dignity when a rather unsavoury news article hit the headlines of her fiance using old hookers. I think she is one of the better role models for young women, she doesn't overally stress over her body image and you also never see her falling about drunk. She is also heavily involved in children's charities as she has a disabled younger sister.
ERRR!!! makes me soo mad
DH is from Pakistan, We live in the UK, he knows where Pakistan is, its in Asia!!!. He is Asian. I know he is Asian, not Oriental, and I went to a state school. Geography is geography, no matter how liberal minded you are!!!
I have yet to meet an Asian from Pakistan or India who calls themselves Oriental.
But. I guess in some sort of way I know what you mean. Its all about acceptance and tolerance.
Life can be a wonderful and diverse experience.
Its all about culture, music and fashion.
The thing thing is, it's a cultural difference between the UK and the US, isn't it?
In the UK, there are a far higher proportion of people whose families were originally from the Indian subcontinent, than there are those whose families were originally from Japan or China etc.; so 'Asian' has come to mean just Indian, Pakistani, Bangladeshi etc., hasn't it? So, to differentiate, most British Chinese and Japanese people call themselves Oriental and that is totally acceptable, here and not considered offensive, at all (yet - the internet global village may change all that, of course!).
Whereas, in the US, I believe there are a higher proportion of people whose families were originally from China and Japan, than there are those whose families were originally from the Indian subcontinent and unlike the British Chinese/Japanese, many of them feel that 'Oriental' is a derogatory term (I think because it is considered Euro-centric?); so that has led to them choosing to call themselves Asian, instead. What US people, whose families are originally from the Indian subcontinent, choose to call themselves, to differentiate, I'm not sure?
My partner is half Asian (his father's family were Indian Muslims who moved to Pakistan during partition [the ones who made it alive, that is
]), so like your DH, this UK/US cultural confusion is relevant to him, too (that's why it sprung to mind as an example!). 
^^^ yes, I agree. I also think it is probably also a valid point to mention that she didn't latch onto a wealthy successful footballer (which is what many of the 'wags' have done, and is a reason they are not respected by a lot of people).
She was going out with Wayne Rooney when they were at school together (at which point she was the one with the prospects being the more academically minded of the two). After they left school he became this massive footballer- but she has also carved out a very successful and lucrative career for herself, so she isn't the archetypal 'wag-gold digger'.
(I am slightly amazed that I know this as I have no interest in either of them, it is surprising what you soak up through the media!)
She was going out with Wayne Rooney when they were at school together (at which point she was the one with the prospects being the more academically minded of the two). After they left school he became this massive footballer- but she has also carved out a very successful and lucrative career for herself, so she isn't the archetypal 'wag-gold digger'.
(I am slightly amazed that I know this as I have no interest in either of them, it is surprising what you soak up through the media!)
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