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#8,138
Found some neat info regarding the anchor stamps found on some of the older brass clips. At least, I think I'm on the right track!

Started with this link: http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/what/349328-brass-hook-thing-anchor.html

The company North & Judd produced numerous brass items with the anchor stamp as their mark, and was known as the "Anchor Brand". In the 70's, they merged with another company called Gulf and Western.

I suspect this is probably where the anchor clips came from, and it would explain why only the earlier bags seem to have them if they merged in the 70's. Kinda neat (ok, maybe kinda dorky too haha) :D

More info:
https://nbindustrial.org/collection/north-judd/

http://www.oldspurs.com/marks/north-and-judd-anchor-brand-makers-marks/
 
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rkiz said:
Found some neat info regarding the anchor stamps found on some of the older brass clips. At least, I think I'm on the right track!

Started with this link: http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/what/349328-brass-hook-thing-anchor.html

The company North & Judd produced numerous brass items with the anchor stamp as their mark, and was known as the "Anchor Brand". In the 70's, they merged with another company called Gulf and Western.

I suspect this is probably where the anchor clips came from, and it would explain why only the earlier bags seem to have them if they merged in the 70's. Kinda neat (ok, maybe kinda dorky too haha) :biggrin:

More info:
https://nbindustrial.org/collection/north-judd/

http://www.oldspurs.com/marks/north-and-judd-anchor-brand-makers-marks/
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Good detective work! Someone on the forum, I can't remember who, came up with similar information. I copied it into my notes a long time ago. This is what she said:
There was a CT manufacturing company that long held a trademark on that anchor mark. In 1998, that company was absorbed into a much larger conglomerate that no longer manufactures hardware (but instead imports it.) I imagine that at one time, before that 1998 date, Coach was purchasing some of its hardware from them.

The company started out in the early 1800’s making wire products. As ownership changed and more firms were acquired, they branched out into all sorts of other production. In 1848, when incorporated as North & Judd, they were known for equestrian hardware and bits and spurs, as well as buckles and trouser clips. (Just as an aside: both the Norths and the Judds were ancestors on my father’s side of the family.)

The Civil War brought the firm great prosperity, as they began producing more military hardware and the like for the war effort. Over the years that followed, they added all sorts of other products, too, mostly metal, much of it brass, and all made in CT.

In the 1950’s, the company acquired a firm called Wilcox-Crittenden that made marine hardware (e.g. clips and swivels used on sails for boats, and things like that.)

You might note how similar the swivel clips used on Coach bags are to the halyard clips and swivel-snaplinks found on the rigging on sailboats. I don’t think this is a coincidence.

My theory is that Coach bought hardware from them at some point in the years after the Wilcox-Crittenden acquisition. The hardware made by North & Judd and their successors carried that anchor mark up until the sale in 1998. Since Coach did not manufacture its own hardware, they had to purchase it from firms that did. If Coach purchased some of its hardware from them, it only makes sense that the anchor would appear on the hardware on certain Coach bags.
 
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whateve said:
Good detective work! Someone on the forum, I can't remember who, came up with similar information. I copied it into my notes a long time ago. This is what she said:
There was a CT manufacturing company that long held a trademark on that anchor mark. In 1998, that company was absorbed into a much larger conglomerate that no longer manufactures hardware (but instead imports it.) I imagine that at one time, before that 1998 date, Coach was purchasing some of its hardware from them.

The company started out in the early 1800’s making wire products. As ownership changed and more firms were acquired, they branched out into all sorts of other production. In 1848, when incorporated as North & Judd, they were known for equestrian hardware and bits and spurs, as well as buckles and trouser clips. (Just as an aside: both the Norths and the Judds were ancestors on my father’s side of the family.)

The Civil War brought the firm great prosperity, as they began producing more military hardware and the like for the war effort. Over the years that followed, they added all sorts of other products, too, mostly metal, much of it brass, and all made in CT.

In the 1950’s, the company acquired a firm called Wilcox-Crittenden that made marine hardware (e.g. clips and swivels used on sails for boats, and things like that.)

You might note how similar the swivel clips used on Coach bags are to the halyard clips and swivel-snaplinks found on the rigging on sailboats. I don’t think this is a coincidence.

My theory is that Coach bought hardware from them at some point in the years after the Wilcox-Crittenden acquisition. The hardware made by North & Judd and their successors carried that anchor mark up until the sale in 1998. Since Coach did not manufacture its own hardware, they had to purchase it from firms that did. If Coach purchased some of its hardware from them, it only makes sense that the anchor would appear on the hardware on certain Coach bags.
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Oh cool! I love the little histories, even on something so seemingly insignificant. Love those little anchors [emoji5]
 
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I think I need to stop surfing EBay lol and work on my rehab pile. And laundry lol. This would make a nice rehab. Nice way to add a NYC bag to your collection and a pretty good price, imo. I would, but the City is a little small for the usual morning routine of tossing things in *bag of the day* and getting out the door. Also I already one have rehabbed one in BT, so I really can't justify another in so close a color. So here it is, snap it up and save me from my poor impulse control. Not authenticated.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-CLA...365597?hash=item440805ac1d:g:FC4AAOSwOjpZc6U1
 
#8,142
Lake Effect said:
I think I need to stop surfing EBay lol and work on my rehab pile. And laundry lol. This would make a nice rehab. Nice way to add a NYC bag to your collection and a pretty good price, imo. I would, but the City is a little small for the usual morning routine of tossing things in *bag of the day* and getting out the door. Also I already one have rehabbed one in BT, so I really can't justify another in so close a color. So here it is, snap it up and save me from my poor impulse control. Not authenticated.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-CLA...365597?hash=item440805ac1d:g:FC4AAOSwOjpZc6U1[/
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