I would write to VC, ask them to check into it. The last thing you sent, yes looks like the same seller, I don't really know why somebody would have different names but it looks "odd" so I would let them know, it is their job to enforce the rules on their site, you leaving comments doesn't help, so approach them, voice your concern, if I remember rightly, it says one account for one person, if this one is violating it, it is VC's job to step in.
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I would write to VC, ask them to check into it. The last thing you sent, yes looks like the same seller, I don't really know why somebody would have different names but it looks "odd" so I would let them know, it is their job to enforce the rules on their site, you leaving comments doesn't help, so approach them, voice your concern, if I remember rightly, it says one account for one person, if this one is violating it, it is VC's job to step in.
As I have explained, I don't like them, I just think it is not realistic to expect somebody to send a receipt to a stranger and I would be really worried doing so myself, just because I had bad experiences with attempted CC fraud and canceling your cards due to that is always such a hassle, so I totally do understand why people are careful. From my experience with VC, items that I bought and that weren't for me (I can be an impulse buyer) I seriously only got a fraction of the price back, they are notorious for squeezing the seller and selling cheap. In my line of work I have to attend a lot of events, you can't wear the same thing twice, limited space, now moving, I can't tell you how often I gulped that they suggest I sell a dress that was 5K for 200 or less, when it was worn 2 hours, fairly often I decided to rather donate it to charity than go through the hassle (and that is after the pics and measuring and describing), to say I like them, that is far away from the truth. Seriously, a bag that I used once, totally loved the design, but found it totally cumbersome in real life, I thought 1/3rd of the resale would be fair as it is quite an in demand item and I had to pull strings to get the one in the shop, they pushed me down to 1/5th of the price, it honestly had no scratch and all the trimmings, dust bag, card, box... No, I am not their fan.
May I suggest you go to the Gucci forum here? Some of the people here are very skilled with authentication. As I said, I assume you paid with CC or PayPal, so if the item is not real, by all means, charge back, call, make a stink, because for the percentage they are charging, they should be on top of their game. Mistakes will happen, but they should not be frequent, but as a buyer you also need to be very clear that you want her to send the receipt or a copy with the purchase, however, a copy in another name, when it comes to a resale, it won't really help much, if anything, it looks suspicious as if the item was stolen. Seriously not being nasty, but think how it would look if you would buy and somebody would sell something and if it is valuable you would ask for their ID, then they produce a receipt that is in another name? Wouldn't you pause? I think if you want to resell, a certificate of authenticity would be the best policy.
Also, unless you really really want an item, unless it is one of the rare bags with waiting list, I wouldn't pay close to retail 2nd hand, I would do that with rare vintage, for the love of it (I totally love Rive Gauche but that is a personal fave) but not with something that is still available. One of the things that you have to keep in mind is that designer items (with a few exceptions) are like cars, once you leave the garage/shop with them, their value diminishes.
Invest a bit more and get it authenticated with a certificate, seriously, that will carry a lot more weight than any receipt, and also if it turns out to be not real, you get your money back, if they are difficult, send me a PM and I put you in touch with the PR manager, they are NOT happy with fakes as it diminishes the reputation of the brand.
@Darina Angelova I am also not much of a Gucci girl, unless it is the Tom Ford era, but then I don't buy with resale in mind but what I can wear, and he seemed to be the designer that really suited me. I tend to follow designers through different fashion houses because every designer seems to design for a specific "type" or with that type in mind, and then blended with the brand's philosophy, in Tom Ford's case it worked for me quite often. As somebody who is not a cat walk model (I would need to grow and discard serious boobage, which could only be done with surgery and I am too much of a coward), while he bats for the other team, his designs were really celebrating women and different shapes and sizes we come in, so that is a massive plus, even if old Yves hated him... But I am going OT now.
Seriously, wait until it arrives, check if it is as described, if not send it back (obviously after documenting it), if it is as described, have it authenticated, won't cost the world but will put your mind at rest, in the meantime, ask the Gucci specialists here to give you their honest opinion, they can also point you to somebody who will do the authentication with all the paper work, in the future, I would ask them to do that before you buy, as it will just make the decision to buy or not so much easier, it is a total bummer to pay, then wait and if it the item doesn't pass to wait for your money back.
Seriously, wait until it arrives, check if it is as described, if not send it back (obviously after documenting it), if it is as described, have it authenticated, won't cost the world but will put your mind at rest, in the meantime, ask the Gucci specialists here to give you their honest opinion, they can also point you to somebody who will do the authentication with all the paper work, in the future, I would ask them to do that before you buy, as it will just make the decision to buy or not so much easier, it is a total bummer to pay, then wait and if it the item doesn't pass to wait for your money back.
Reminds me, I had somebody ask a lot of questions, always super aggressive and rude, so I looked at her profile, she seemed to leave nasty messages with every item she bought (you could see it in her history, asking a few questions about the item, then sometimes buying, never using please of thank you, then later came back and complained about stuff that is hardly the seller's fault, like the item didn't fit her right, she thinks she paid too much, so after question 10 I replied "Please buy from a shop, you always seem to be unhappy with the purchases and I prefer happy buyers", obviously she was outraged. The reason why sellers are willing to take a massive cut with VC and such is that you don't have to deal with buyers who have buyer's remorse or want to borrow the item for an event and then return it.
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Dear Gabs007,
Thank you so much for your time, I really appreciate all your replies. I don't care at all if this is OT, please don't do this. There is nothing about you (or your boobage) you need to discard. No room for bravery or cowardice here. I'm sure you are a beautiful woman, just deal with it, damn it.
To stay on topic: VC have sent this to me:
"I would like to inform you that the seller will unfortunately not send the receipt. As it was not mentioned in the description, nor visible in the pictures and given the fact that the seller said she had it but not that she would send it, does not allow our quality control team to open a report.
However, rest assured, our team will carefully inspect the item to ensure its authenticity. They will also carefully check the item to ensure its condition is true to the products listing page.
If the item cannot be fully authenticated, then it will be deemed non-compliant and you order will be cancelled.
Thank you for your understanding.
I remain at your entire disposal and wish you a lovely day."
Cool... I will post more photos when I get the bag. Thank you everyone for your time, scrolling through my posts...
No worries, I have a shoulder surgery planned, which is due to ruptured tendons, surgeries are not fun and I lived into a ripe old age with my bust, it bugged me a lot as a teenager, it bugs me on occasion since I quite like Agnes B, Vanessa Bruno and a few other designers who simply cater to a different built, I am not going under the knife for fashion. Imagine all the hours I spent in the gym fighting gravity would have been for nothing.
I am pretty sure that since you raised it, it will be flagged even more, and again, once it arrives, do the authentication service, I think Lollypop offers the online service even with a certificate for not too much money.
I recently passed on a bag which is the only LV I actually liked (speedy with just the chequered pattern and no obvious monograms) but something didn't seem right, the pictures looked amazing, the seller sent a copy of the receipt, she wanted payment into a bank account, which really struck me as odd, she didn't want to sell through Vinted (at that point I was ready to walk anyway, no way would I do that) then I noticed receipt and bank account 2 totally different names, and I figured something is "more than odd..." Today I checked their forum, lo and behold, somebody bought it, got a cheap fake, the pictures turned out to be nicked, she now has to go the long road via police report and all that, same seller has changed her location 3 times within one week. The UK isn't that big, but in one week moving from London, to Birmingham and now in Manchester, in an area that is basically not residential but simply warehouses. A bit too odd... Her story was that she is getting rid of presents from her ex and the prices are so low as she wants them gone ASAP, if it is that urgent, in London (where she had the location originally) she could walk into a number of sores who would buy the bag and resell it, and she would get certainly more than 175 GBP for one in as good nick as the one she was "selling" on VC or any other site, it would fly off the page if offered....
I can understand why somebody is worried about handing out receipts they had with their purchase, it's seriously very easy to identify the person via the sales person, who some shops like Fraser's or Harvey Nicks name, the customer number, sometimes even details of the CC.
Fingers crossed that your bag is authentic and in the condition as described, never seen that model before and it might be a keeper.
I'm sorry to hear this, good luck with your surgery, I hope it all goes well and you recover quickly. I was always flat chested and thought the grass is greener on the other side...
Please don't say that... I saw a green one and a red one on sale on eBay for $3000! I love yellow bags and I hope the experts in the Gucci thread can help once I get it.
Hi Guys, I have considered myself a newbie on V.C and have only bought one item prior to this which turned up to be a fab buy. It was in mint condition and had all the paperwork too.
Unfortunately this time round i let my heart rule my head and went along with a purchase that i felt was a good deal. In hindsight i should have requested more pics before agreeing on the sale.
I received the bag yesterday and after sending photos on tpf.. Yes it is Superfake Bag[emoji21]
Didn't want to believe it but just really annoyed at myself now for being so gullible and stupid.
So now have opened a Paypal dispute, but not sure what to do next as this is the very first time i have ever bought/received a fake item. Do you think i will be able to get my money back?! What are the next steps? I hope something good will come out of this or else it would be a very Expensive Lesson indeed[emoji22]
Any advice from anyone whom has been stung from sellers on V.C would be much appreciated. Thanks guys x
Unfortunately this time round i let my heart rule my head and went along with a purchase that i felt was a good deal. In hindsight i should have requested more pics before agreeing on the sale.
I received the bag yesterday and after sending photos on tpf.. Yes it is Superfake Bag[emoji21]
Didn't want to believe it but just really annoyed at myself now for being so gullible and stupid.
So now have opened a Paypal dispute, but not sure what to do next as this is the very first time i have ever bought/received a fake item. Do you think i will be able to get my money back?! What are the next steps? I hope something good will come out of this or else it would be a very Expensive Lesson indeed[emoji22]
Any advice from anyone whom has been stung from sellers on V.C would be much appreciated. Thanks guys x
Fortunately my recent purchases from VC have been mostly in good order.
Mostly, because I bought a Hermès Evelyne TPM from a trusted seller who is always quick in her replies.
The bag came without the paperwork, but the seller said she had the receipt somewhere but was moving house and all the admin was in boxes.
Received the bag; it was stunning, but I read the blind stamp and noticed that A: the bag was from a private sale -VP: vente privée- and B: it was from 2014 and not 2016 as the seller had stated.
Contacted VC: I could send the bag back for a second inspection and indeed: It was accepeted, as "the description was not accurate" and I received my money within 48 hours.
Contacted the seller, who was genuinly shocked, as she had bought the bag from a friend/reseller in 2016, with receipt from the reseller stating that the bag was new at the time of purchase. The seller had found the receipt afer all.
So my suggestion is: Send the bag back to VC for a second inspection, accompanied by all the paperwork and at the same time, open a PayPal dispute.
I once received a super fake as well -Dior- Sent it back for a second inspection and opened a PayPal dispute at the same time and indeed: After a week or so, it was accepted. Unfortunately and to my astonishment: The bag was put up for sale again by VC..... Incredible.
I read that there are some sellers who don't want to send the receipts along to VC.
I would NEVER ever buy any high end and expensive item without a -copy of- the receipt from VC: The seller has to blacken his or her details, so there's no harm in sending along the receipt.
As long as VC Quality Control is not 100% to be trusted, always ask for -a copy of- the invoice and always buy from trusted sellers and check his/her selling past. The latter is no longer possible via the app, but only by logging in on the VC site.
Good luck and let us know how you're getting on.
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Thank you for sharing your Dispute Experience with V.C. Good to hear everything worked out good for you which makes me hopeful. Fingers crossed my disput gets sorted out smoothly too.
I guess Dior is a brand to stay away from when buying preloved. I was stupid to ignore the red flags with this bag as yes it was listed for sale before.
It wasn't until i looked closely at the date code and the tabs inside the bag that i realised it was a Superfake.
When you sent your Superfake bag back to V.C, did you have to get a written authentication to support your claim?
No, I did not send it back with any paperwork.
The dustbag was already fake as well: the cheap nylon bag you get when you buy superfakes from China.
That's when the red flags were raised. The bag looked genuine enough, but felt diferent from my other Dior bag, which I bought at the Dior boutique. It felt more "plastic". I googeld the datecodes, but they seemed genuine, although they looked slightly different, but hard to see for the naked and untrained eye.
But the feel of the leather and the dustbag just told me that this was indeed a superfake!
Fortunately: the dimensions in the description were not completely accurate.
I sent it back stating that the measurements were not correct and that the leather didn't feel right.
As said: My return was accepted as "the description by the seller regarding the measurements was not accurate".
I got the feeling that VC knew it was a Superfake, but didn't want to admit that they had missed it at QC. Moreover: I had also started a PayPal dispute and had told them so.
As said: The bag was put up for sale again and was sold within a few days.
I warned the future buyer with comments, but of course these were deleted by VC.
So: Always!!! ask for an invoice! So many brandnew items "were a gift"... but when asked where it was bought, you either get a very shady or no answer at all. In that case: Stay away!!! Never let your heart rule over your head.
The commission on VC is sky high, so when a brandnew item is being sold for a price that is too good to be true and without proper paperwork, all alarmbells should start ringing!
My best advice should be: Contact VC; tell them what's wrong and that you would like a second inspection. And start a PayPal dispute and inform VC accordingly.
The dustbag was already fake as well: the cheap nylon bag you get when you buy superfakes from China.
That's when the red flags were raised. The bag looked genuine enough, but felt diferent from my other Dior bag, which I bought at the Dior boutique. It felt more "plastic". I googeld the datecodes, but they seemed genuine, although they looked slightly different, but hard to see for the naked and untrained eye.
But the feel of the leather and the dustbag just told me that this was indeed a superfake!
Fortunately: the dimensions in the description were not completely accurate.
I sent it back stating that the measurements were not correct and that the leather didn't feel right.
As said: My return was accepted as "the description by the seller regarding the measurements was not accurate".
I got the feeling that VC knew it was a Superfake, but didn't want to admit that they had missed it at QC. Moreover: I had also started a PayPal dispute and had told them so.
As said: The bag was put up for sale again and was sold within a few days.
I warned the future buyer with comments, but of course these were deleted by VC.
So: Always!!! ask for an invoice! So many brandnew items "were a gift"... but when asked where it was bought, you either get a very shady or no answer at all. In that case: Stay away!!! Never let your heart rule over your head.
The commission on VC is sky high, so when a brandnew item is being sold for a price that is too good to be true and without proper paperwork, all alarmbells should start ringing!
My best advice should be: Contact VC; tell them what's wrong and that you would like a second inspection. And start a PayPal dispute and inform VC accordingly.
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