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Yeah, I agree outside noise shouldn’t matter. I was considering magic chalcedony necklace but it is out now. I decided to play safe and stick with my RG when it comes to vca.
Now I am mostly considering 16 motif hammered and 20 motif hammered rg piece. I placed an order for 20 motif hammered rg in september but really in doubt. Because I purchased 16 motif hammered in 2022 then returned because it felt too small and was laying weird on my body. Looking back the pictures, i think 16 was very simple and elegant. I feel like clovers for 20 is too close and looks crowded. Generally vintage size goes with my body frame but not sure if that is the case for 20.
So far just waiting for the 20 to arrive.
Looking at the pics, do you think 16 looks better than 20 or vice versa?
Hello, I actually don’t love this length on you in either 16 or 20. The 20 I find challenging to wear if one has larger breasts. I agree with @lynne_ross & @spaul that you should definitely consider the 10 or 10+5 combo. The 10+5 combo will give great length but stop short of falling off cliff. Also I would recommend trying the magic necklace as it has great presence and would be very flattering.
 
RG or WG is only colors i prefer. Pretty to new wg actually. If 10 motifs came in rg guiloche, I’d consider. But nothing so far catches my eyes. I ended up with a store credit because i returned a 10 motif onyx piece.
I wonder about blue agate but again YG is not my thing. Also, not sure about that many pop of color clovers. I think hammered rg is very subtle which i like.
I also tried rg magic with gmop. I would get it in a heartbeat if it came in rg guiloche.
When my 20 comes and it doesn’t work, I’ll prolly go for magic single pendat route. Either settle with yg guiloche or wait for special order to be available for rg guiloche.
Here is me trying 10 motif onyx, blue agate, and magic gmop.
 

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Either settle with yg guiloche or wait for special order to be available for rg guiloche.
Please don’t “settle” for something you don’t love! If none of the necklaces work, are there rings, bracelets, or earrings you might like instead?

Or can you consider the 16 sweet necklace but get it shortened? Or get it lengthened and always wear it doubled?

Or talk to your SA; they may have some great ideas. But if you tell them you don’t like YG and they push YG pieces on you, find a different SA.
 
Come on van Cleef we're waiting for these options 😅
I totally agree with you @A bottle of Red I wish that Van Cleef would make their designs in all 3 metals. The slow roll out especially in white metals is frustrating. The WG hammered is lovely but a SO only. It would be nice to have the option of a 10 in the guilloche.
 
I totally agree with you @A bottle of Red I wish that Van Cleef would make their designs in all 3 metals. The slow roll out especially in white metals is frustrating. The WG hammered is lovely but a SO only. It would be nice to have the option of a 10 in the guilloche.
100%. Or at least have enough options in each gold. In wg there are 2 10 options (excluding pave) in rg there is only 1 (hammered). I would eventually get a rg 10 but not hammered since it disappears on me. Only option is SO.
I SOd the wg hammered and was fine with mark up since I figured they would never launch or if they do the price would catch up to what I paid. But I am hesitant to SO stone pieces since I can’t see colour ahead of time.
 
RG or WG is only colors i prefer. Pretty to new wg actually. If 10 motifs came in rg guiloche, I’d consider. But nothing so far catches my eyes. I ended up with a store credit because i returned a 10 motif onyx piece.
I wonder about blue agate but again YG is not my thing. Also, not sure about that many pop of color clovers. I think hammered rg is very subtle which i like.
I also tried rg magic with gmop. I would get it in a heartbeat if it came in rg guiloche.
When my 20 comes and it doesn’t work, I’ll prolly go for magic single pendat route. Either settle with yg guiloche or wait for special order to be available for rg guiloche.
Here is me trying 10 motif onyx, blue agate, and magic gmop.
I only wear RG and WG also so I definitely understand your challenge. I did MTO for my mostly all of my RG pieces & my WG onyx bracelet. There is a spend threshold of at least 85k for MTO/SO before they paused. I actually love you the look of the 10 blue Agate on you. I would caution you not to settle and definitely don’t purchase anything else until you’re absolutely sure you can get your money back not a store credit. No need to let VCA hold your coins when you aren’t really sure what to get. My motto is when in doubt buy nothing.
 
100%. Or at least have enough options in each gold. In wg there are 2 10 options (excluding pave) in rg there is only 1 (hammered). I would eventually get a rg 10 but not hammered since it disappears on me. Only option is SO.
I SOd the wg hammered and was fine with mark up since I figured they would never launch or if they do the price would catch up to what I paid. But I am hesitant to SO stone pieces since I can’t see colour ahead of time.
SO of stone pieces sight unseen takes courage but definitely worth it. I was nervous when I ordered my GMOP pieces because of saturation variations but everything looked great. You have great taste so trust yourself and start small with bracelet or earrings. What combos would you consider?
 
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SO of stone pieces sight unseen takes courage but definitely worth it. I was nervous when I ordered my GMOP pieces because of saturation variations but everything looked great. You have great taste so trust yourself and start small with bracelet or earrings. What combos would you consider?
Your SOs have turned out beautiful. Actually I have not heard anyone that was disappointed with their SO. But still not sure I can do it.
I would like another pair if 2 motif earrings. Ideally carnelian wg or rg guilloche carnelian if VCA releases. I would also eventually like a 10 rg necklace but completely undecided on what. Waiting to see if something is released at some point.
 
Your SOs have turned out beautiful. Actually I have not heard anyone that was disappointed with their SO. But still not sure I can do it.
I would like another pair if 2 motif earrings. Ideally carnelian wg or rg guilloche carnelian if VCA releases. I would also eventually like a 10 rg necklace but completely undecided on what. Waiting to see if something is released at some point.
Great choices, I would go wg carnelian because would hate to pay premium for guilloche carnelian and they release it.
 
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Your SOs have turned out beautiful. Actually I have not heard anyone that was disappointed with their SO. But still not sure I can do it.
I would like another pair if 2 motif earrings. Ideally carnelian wg or rg guilloche carnelian if VCA releases. I would also eventually like a 10 rg necklace but completely undecided on what. Waiting to see if something is released at some point.

Great choices, I would go wg carnelian because would hate to pay premium for guilloche carnelian and they release it.
The workshop will not approve an item currently in production or discontinued limited production or region specific item as a special order. I had requested a alternating letterwood and hammered rose gold five motif to match my necklace, and the workshop would not do it because it was a previous limited run and discontinued. They would consider a variation though, for example Pave or hammered instead of Guilloche, yg instead of RG, or switching the order of the motifs. In this case, I am not sure if they would do the reversed order, but typically they will consider it.
 
Our SA noticed that my wife's HP from last year might have a scratched stone and after sending it to the repair shop they confirmed that the stone is broken and they need to send it back to Paris.

Did anyone have a similar experience? Will they be able to fix it or replace the stone given it's a limited piece from last year?
 
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Our SA noticed that my wife's HP from last year might have a scratched stone and after sending it to the repair shop they confirmed that the stone is broken and they need to send it back to Paris.

Did anyone have a similar experience? Will they be able to fix it or replace the stone given it's a limited piece from last year?
Damselincartier on IG experienced the stone in the 2023 HP shattering when dropped on the floor, she was able to have it replaced. I have heard of one other person who had a crack in this stone and it was replaced, but forgetting who it was.
 
Our SA noticed that my wife's HP from last year might have a scratched stone and after sending it to the repair shop they confirmed that the stone is broken and they need to send it back to Paris.

Did anyone have a similar experience? Will they be able to fix it or replace the stone given it's a limited piece from last year?
I've dropped it once but luckily it landed on the carpet and I'm short, so no damage has been made. I did left a very faint hairline scratch on the stone when layering it with a tennis necklace, so that's totally my fault. I've seen some girl's stone cracked after wearing it in the shower a few times because her SA told her it's safe in the water and it needed to be replaced, so YMMV. VCA can replace HP stones though so if something happened to it, they'll be able to replace it even if it's not from the current year version, it'll just take longer for you to get the necklace back. I asked my SA about replacing the stone for my 2021 HP (rhodonite) and I was quoted over a year of wait time because the workshop want to prioritize the existing SO/MTO orders first. 😵
 
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