Tiffany vs. Cartier- why do you favor one over the other?

TPF may earn a commission from merchant affiliate
links, including eBay, Amazon, and others

My brand preference depends on the specific piece. I prefer Cartier for their watches and the love collection, and prefer Tiffany for their e-rings and everyday jewelry (somerset ring, elsa peretti necklaces). Cartier is certainly a more prestigous brand than Tiffany all around, but I actually prefer the simplicity of Tiffany designs. I have to say that I find the staff at Cartier to be a bit snooty. Although Tiffany stores are full of tourists (at least the 5th Ave one), which can be annoying, the salespeople are much friendlier. One thing that I can't stand about Cartier is that they don't have a good return policy (can only return for store credit or exchange), which is a huge turnoff for me. Even if I don't plan on returning something, I like to have the option for piece of mind.

I find this as well. Before buying my engagement ring at Tiffany's, I went to Cartier. I did not feel that personal experience I hear so much about. I have a sales representative that only had less than 1/2 carat 1895s and more than 2 ct 1895s present. We said that we were looking for about a carat in size, and the sales representatives never looked the item up for us. She didn't know if other store had them in stock. Finally, she could not even give us an idea of price range. Maybe this was just my experience though.

As for watches, I have a Cartier Panthere and a gold Tiffany Atlas. I am dreading taking my Cartier Panthere back to Cartier because the battery is dying. Last time I sent it in I was charged $125 to replace the battery and it took over a month. Tiffany charges $30.00 and it is same day service.

Maybe it is just me, but I never had a good experience with Cartier. I am also not a frequent shopper at the store. Tiffany's, however, has always given me great service and has allowed me to try on anything I want to in the stor (even though there was no way I could buy a $200,000 ring).
 
  • Like
Reactions: HeartHermes
Tiffany is fundamentally and first and foremost, a jewelry store and then a place for gifts. In their own words, "Tiffany has built an international reputation as a premier jeweler and the ultimate source of gifts for life's most cherished occasions."

The comparison to Cartier is a fair one, they have the same general business model and they are both jewelers with esteemed histories, so naturally people will compare the two. I would say Tiffany targets a younger demographic, while Cartier's customers probably tend to have more disposable income but in the minds of most consumers and buyers, I would bet Cartier and Tiffany are lumped in the same "mid- to high-end jewelry" category.

Quite obviously one's personal experience at the store will make you more predisposed towards one brand over the other.
 
Quite obviously one's personal experience at the store will make you more predisposed towards one brand over the other.

Absolutely, this is the case, I couldn't agree more. I have had bad experiences at Tiffany - this may be solely due to the culture at the particular store in my city. I think having to stand at a counter while trying on and then purchasing a $20K cocktail ring is gauche and weird. It does not suggest the atmosphere of luxury - it suggests the atmosphere of a grocery store.

Moreover, I was back there today previewing the yellow diamonds collection. The SA was just awful, cawing in this loud striney voice "Oh, yes, well it's a very excluuuuusive collllllection! The pieces are priced anywhere from between twenty thousand to half a million." I'm standing there going, well that's nice, could I see a couple of the pendants? "Oh yes, of course. This one's $5,000.00 and this one's $7,000.00." This all can be heard from all over the store, just this gauche tasteless woman yelling out all these prices. I actually had to say to her flat out "I'd appreciate you being a little discreet with the prices. I am interested in the jewellery, the design and how they look on me. The prices can be discussed quietly later." After that, she finally pulled her head in and started acting like a SA in a luxury store, rather than a real estate agent.

This may not be representative of Tiffany the world over, but the fact remains that this is the experience offered to clients at a Tiffany store. It absolutely does affect how I see the brand.
 
  • Like
Reactions: HeartHermes
none of them are my most loved jewellers BUT to choose from those two- cartier overall (they just have more pieces that appeal to me) with tiffany it is only a few pieces of their blue book collection that excite me
add to that that the overall buying experience is so much nicer at cartier (with tiffany it is only nice with a prebooked appointment in their upstair salons) and of course that tiffany outside the US is terribly overpriced .

by overpriced i mean i am not a US citizen or located in the USA but when i go to cartier worldwide the prices are more or less the same (add a few % to their paris prices and exchange rate taxes etc ) but at tiffany compare US prices and local prices you are shocked ! (of course there are ways around that depending on the specific piece but overall it is really obvious).
 
I think this may be interesting to some

All-You-Can-Eat Breakfast at Tiffany's
Leigh Gallagher, 04.15.02


Retail's sterling name is going mainstream. Can it withstand the dilution?
The Tiffany & Co. store in suburban Philadelphia's King of Prussia mall was a madhouse in late December. Shoppers clutching Gap and Benetton bags clogged the aisles and elbowed one another to get to the store's self-service corner, where boxes of sterling-silver key rings, pendants and charm bracelets, many priced under $100, were stacked and preboxed in Tiffany's trademark robin's-egg blue. For customers needing service, staffers roved the sales floor passing out beepers.

If it sounds like Outback Steakhouse, that's because Tiffany is slowly and subtly embracing the middle class, a dangerous game for one of retail's most exclusive names. Over the past decade the luxury jewelry retailer--best known for baubles so aspirational that Audrey Hepburn's Holly Golightly could only gaze longingly through its Fifth Avenue windows in Breakfast at Tiffany's--has nearly tripled its stores in the U.S. and changed its promotions to highlight more lower-price wares.

"We've always had a ********ic vision of what luxury retailing should be. I would hope that Tiffany would never become the type of jeweler where you need to press a button to be admitted," says Chief Executive Michael Kowalski, a 20-year company veteran who took the top job in 1999. "Balancing ourselves on that line is the single most challenging task that we have."

The self-service corner at the King of Prussia store was new this past holiday season; so were the beepers. In February Kowalski upped his expansion plans to a total of 80 to 100 U.S. stores within the next 10 to 15 years, up from a prior 70 to 75. It currently has 44 U.S. locations and another 82 overseas. Tiffany's new 5,000-square-foot format (versus a traditional 7,500 to 10,000) will allow it to expand into smaller markets and double up in bigger towns.

Kowalski says focus groups have shown that consumers have no problem with store expansion. Nor does Wall Street. Tiffany's earnings rose at 24% compound annual growth rate from 1996 to 2001, to $174 million on $1.6 billion in sales. Shares are up sixfold since 1996 to $36, or 31 times earnings.

Big-ticket items still move: Tiffany's average engagement-ring sale in the U.S. last year was $10,000, up from $9,000 three years ago. It has sold or taken orders for all 450 of a limited-edition $22,000 Patek Philippe watch due out this fall.

But Tiffany is no longer intimidating to shoppers like Pat Fleming. A 52-year-old teacher from the blue-collar Northeast Philadelphia neighborhood of Mayfair, Fleming shopped the King of Prussia store one Saturday last month with her 22-year-old daughter, Jennifer. "I never would have thought I could afford anything from Tiffany," she says. Urged by Jennifer, she first went in to browse two years ago and was shocked to find silver pendants for under $100. Mother and daughter now own several pieces each. "I like the styles," says Fleming. "And they're affordable."

Tiffany's sales and earnings were off 4% and 9% last year, respectively, but some blame must fall on the lousy economy. In the U.S., sales at stores open longer than a year fell 8%. A steep drop in New York City tourism after Sept. 11 cut sales 15% at the flagship Fifth Avenue location, which accounts for 11% of the company's revenue.

But trading down has been a two-year trend. Tiffany's average jewelry purchase has dropped from $360 to $317 since 1999, thanks to surging sales of sterling silver merchandise--the company's least expensive jewelry and the stuff the King of Prussia shoppers were fighting over.

In the process of making itself less intimidating, Tiffany may be driving away some of its core customers. Alexis Conrad, 29, a New York City-based former project manager at TheKnot.com, a wedding Web site, used to wear a Tiffany silver heart necklace every day, but stopped. "I'd come into the office, and everyone else would be wearing it," she says. Before she got engaged, she told her fiancé she didn't want a Tiffany engagement ring. Her ring (and the diamond pendant she wears around her neck) come from a one-store jeweler in Santa Barbara.

Pamela Jaccard, a 47-year-old marketing executive in West Chester, Pa., says she spends $3,000 a year at Tiffany but winces at the concept of 100 stores. "How's that going to be any different than Baskin-Robbins?" she says. "People should have to travel to get to Tiffany. That's part of the thrill."

Tiffany still has a long way to go before it is as accessible as, say, Zales, which has 755 U.S. stores, but certain of its products--the Tiffany Heart Tag silver bracelet, for one--have become required wear in junior high school cafeterias across the country. "The brand is more stretchable than others because of its strength. But it's a very dangerous development that they're going through," says Stefan Daiberl, a director at Interbrand, a New York marketing consultancy.

That blue box? Says Cynthia Cohen of Strategic MindShare, retail consultants in Menlo Park, Calif.: "It doesn't have the ‘wow' factor of the red box with the gold Cs" of Cartier.

1837 Charles Lewis Tiffany and John B. Young found Tiffany & Young, Manhattan dry-goods emporium. Robin's-egg shade of blue chosen as trademark color.

1853 Charles Tiffany assumes control of company, renames it Tiffany & Co.

1940 Moves headquarters to Fifth Avenue at 57th Street.

1961 Paramount releases Breakfast at Tiffany's starring Audrey Hepburn, based on 1958 Truman Capote novella.

1963 Tiffany opens first branch store, in San Francisco.

1969 Opens first mall-based store, Phipps Plaza, Atlanta.

1972 Enters Japan via boutique in Mitsukoshi department store.

1979 Avon Products purchases Tiffany & Co. for $94 million in stock.

1984 Chief Executive William Chaney and team of investors buy back company in $136 million LBO.

1987 Initial public offering on New York Stock Exchange. Total U.S. store count: 8.

1993 Ends year with 16 U.S. stores; begins current phase of U.S. store expansion.

1999 Michael Kowalski becomes chief executive. Reports record sales and earnings: Revenues climb 25% to $1.46 billion, earnings rise 62%.

2001 Sales for the year drop 4%; earnings decline 9%.

2002 Begins year with 44 stores in U.S., 126 worldwide. Announces new U.S. target of 80 to 100 stores.
 
  • Like
Reactions: HeartHermes
Both great companies both very tasty :smile1:

Exactly :D

I think Tiffany continues to have a strong brand and heritage, and their business has certainly evolved with the times.

And while the comparison might make for some interesting friendly debates, everything is relative.

In this case the general discussion is about Tiffany vs. Cartier, but if you compare for example Cartier vs. Harry Winston or Graff, then I would argue that Cartier is the "lesser" brand, and then if you compare Graff with the top notch independent contemporary jewelers today, then you could also argue that they're a notch below some of them...and then there those jewelers that are so exclusive THEY choose their clients, rather than the other way around :D

But I like what Sammyjoe said, they're all pretty tasty in their own way.
 
Exactly :D

I think Tiffany continues to have a strong brand and heritage, and their business has certainly evolved with the times.

And while the comparison might make for some interesting friendly debates, everything is relative.

In this case the general discussion is about Tiffany vs. Cartier, but if you compare for example Cartier vs. Harry Winston or Graff, then I would argue that Cartier is the "lesser" brand, and then if you compare Graff with the top notch independent contemporary jewelers today, then you could also argue that they're a notch below some of them...and then there those jewelers that are so exclusive THEY choose their clients, rather than the other way around :D

But I like what Sammyjoe said, they're all pretty tasty in their own way.

:goodpost: totally agree. we have our preferences based on personal reasons, but all are addictively tasty.
 
Exactly :D

In this case the general discussion is about Tiffany vs. Cartier, but if you compare for example Cartier vs. Harry Winston or Graff, then I would argue that Cartier is the "lesser" brand, and then if you compare Graff with the top notch independent contemporary jewelers today, then you could also argue that they're a notch below some of them...and then there those jewelers that are so exclusive THEY choose their clients, rather than the other way around :D

But I like what Sammyjoe said, they're all pretty tasty in their own way.

Totally agree with you Leah, today its Cartier Vs Tiffany. Tomorrow it could be like you said Cartier Vs Graff.

Or Cartier Vs VCA :D
 
Top