Thoughts on Purseonfleek’s latest video about Hermes experience?

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If she's selling fake Twilly scarves, I wouldn't sell to her, either.
My "Hermes Journey" is pretty simple - if I like something and it's available I buy it. I don't buy a huge amount, but there are a number of bags and items that I really love. I love the brand because most of the designs stand the test of time - I'm not going to get an item and have it look ridiculous a few months later. I won't buy items I don't love to qualify for a larger purchase, but I'm also not shopping for the It Bag.

I work in events, and I will say I've had clients who get far too personal and who want to monopolize my time. It's a bad business strategy.
 
I've been watching some videos of hers over the years, but I did notice her growing frustration about not getting bags but didn't think it would ever go this bad. Sure, from what she said in the video, it is a bit harsh for HR to contact her directly. But as others have pointed out, it doesn't seem like we got the full story - otherwise, it would a very weird move from their side. And yeah, a lot with the messages.

And jeez, I hope very few people have that mindset about Hermes, I might be new to this "journey", but I'm not gonna let anything get that deep from a brand. I only go in there expecting great customer service and lovely products, and if anything else comes out of it down the line, great! But at the end of the day, it is a business that sells products - with human beings as sale associates, which sometimes might be forgotten.
 
I was only able to make it through 34 mins of the video. I think her approach with the SAs is off. She comes across as extremely demanding, all over the board in her wants of every "it" item/color, over personalized communications and engaging in waitlist challenges (you sold to so and so, etc) ...so off putting. I'd be ashamed if I sent such emails to my SA.
 
I don't want to repeat too many of the same sentiments here, but by being well intentioned and what she calls "chatty" is not not how her emails come accross.

She needed to be clear, concise and not 100 varieties of H products.

i think her intentions was to be open to many combinations of bags and different varieties so she gets offered a bag. However she listed them out in such a way that it was unclear what she really wanted (very confusing list btw). In the end, it made it look like she was wanting/demanding too many bags.
 
Having occasionally watched her videos in the past and watching this one in full, I feel as though there were errors on both sides that compounded, and lots of miscommunication/talking across one another.

1. Unfortunately, lot of the communication happened over email, without the benefit of seeing body language or responding to social cues. Seeing emails, I can understand how an SA would feel that Mel was inappropriately pushy. In particular, many of the details given (birthday, pregnancy updates, anniversary details, illness/surgery, etc.) could read, without any context, as "guilting" the SA into making an offer. In another context, they might be interpreted as friendly conversation! But I understand why an SA, especially once specific financial details were being mentioned in the context of requesting a bag, might alert a manager, so that they could keep an eye on what might develop into a more concerning situation.

2. Related, it's clear that Mel didn't think that her communications were pushy or trying to "guilt". Rather, following the sort of advice common online, she thought she was establishing a "personal connection" with her SA by sharing details of her life and providing specific rationale for why she wanted a bag at a particular time. Perhaps her previous SAs responded well to this! I think this is a valuable lesson in how tricky "personal connections" with SAs can be, and how communication via email/text can be easily misunderstood.

3. I understand Mel's general frustrations, specifically having 3 SAs leave the boutique in the space of a couple of years. This is not entirely uncommon in retail, but nonetheless decreases customer satisfaction and is very unfortunate. I also get being frustrated about the opaque nature of B/K/C offers, especially when you can see that others are getting offers, and I too wish that H would develop ways to be more upfront about bag availability.

4. Given what we've been told of the call, and assuming that's the whole story, the HR call seems inappropriate. A company certainly has the obligation to protect its employees, and even to monitor situations that might escalate, but nothing in the communication we saw was threatening or dangerous. It would have been much more appropriate for the manager to have a private conversation and to offer to reassign Mel to another SA that she might form a better relationship with. Of course, at that point if I were Mel I'd still take my business elsewhere--I'd assume it was unlikely I'd get approved for a bag from that manager--but it might have saved some of the sense of hurt and embarrassment at being named a health and safety threat by strangers who had no firsthand knowledge of the situation.
 
A couple feelings from this thread as well as the maintaining H relationship one:

1) This is retail shopping. Whatever the boutique wishes to sell you, they will. Whatever they don't, they won't.
2) Relationships must grow naturally and organically. Almost anyone in sales is able to notice while engaging in conversation, that there may be an ulterior motive in place. Asking someone how their day has been and then immediately asking for a Birkin is not a relationship. H SAs are trained to look for said motives so that they can spot one's fake intentions. Stop trying too hard and the offers will come.
3) Just because we are clients of H does not mean that we are entitled to anything. H has figured out the supply/demand equation to a post-doctorate level. They aren't going to change their formula for me nor you. There are a few exceptions to the rule, but nobody should have a sense of entitlement. I am sure that there are VVIPs that cannot get anything and everything that their hearts desire, on a whim.

I guess in short, I should change my motto to "stop trying so hard"
 
Having occasionally watched her videos in the past and watching this one in full, I feel as though there were errors on both sides that compounded, and lots of miscommunication/talking across one another.

4. Given what we've been told of the call, and assuming that's the whole story, the HR call seems inappropriate. A company certainly has the obligation to protect its employees, and even to monitor situations that might escalate, but nothing in the communication we saw was threatening or dangerous. It would have been much more appropriate for the manager to have a private conversation and to offer to reassign Mel to another SA that she might form a better relationship with. Of course, at that point if I were Mel I'd still take my business elsewhere--I'd assume it was unlikely I'd get approved for a bag from that manager--but it might have saved some of the sense of hurt and embarrassment at being named a health and safety threat by strangers who had no firsthand knowledge of the situation.

Probably one of the best things I have read on this issue. The whole thing just got out of hand. I think the fault started with Mel, but H could have responded better (if in fact, we are getting the whole story).
 
A couple feelings from this thread as well as the maintaining H relationship one:

1) This is retail shopping. Whatever the boutique wishes to sell you, they will. Whatever they don't, they won't.
2) Relationships must grow naturally and organically. Almost anyone in sales is able to notice while engaging in conversation, that there may be an ulterior motive in place. Asking someone how their day has been and then immediately asking for a Birkin is not a relationship. H SAs are trained to look for said motives so that they can spot one's fake intentions. Stop trying too hard and the offers will come.
3) Just because we are clients of H does not mean that we are entitled to anything. H has figured out the supply/demand equation to a post-doctorate level. They aren't going to change their formula for me nor you. There are a few exceptions to the rule, but nobody should have a sense of entitlement. I am sure that there are VVIPs that cannot get anything and everything that their hearts desire, on a whim.

I guess in short, I should change my motto to "stop trying so hard"
Love all of this. My motto will be "I am entitled to nothing. I won't settle for just anything.".
 
I think Mel selling her first really desirable pink b25 didn’t really help her as she may come across as a reseller. I just also saw her EBay store which I think also doesn’t help. I think her emails are passive aggressive, written too long and a little demanding with her dream bags. I don’t think it helped her either mentioning how much her spend was and how she knew others that got their dream bags. The SA’s can see your profile and can see how much you spend and it doesn’t always help with emails, as sometimes people may read/see it in a different way than how you write it.
I do feel bad for Mel as I know how it feels to wait for your dream bag but I can see how Hermes would not want her as a client either. At the end of the day, it’s a bag, most of us have to have pre spend before getting our dream bag but we know that it’s never 100% guarantee we will get the dream bag for whatever reason so that’s why you should buy what you love without expectations and you will be much happier when you get that call/email that a dream bag has come.
 
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She needed to be clear, concise and not 100 varieties of H products.

i think her intentions was to be open to many combinations of bags and different varieties so she gets offered a bag. However she listed them out in such a way that it was unclear what she really wanted (very confusing list btw). In the end, it made it look like she was wanting/demanding too many bags.

100%! if her intention to be open to many combinations, i would tell my SA I want XXX but except XXX color/specs wont work. by listing out a bunch of combinations, it makes her coming across more demanding than flexible.

Self-reflection and self -awareness are also important. If i am not achieving the results by my method, is there something I should do differently, less of or more of.
 
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Yikes. Few things annoy me more than people who re-sell packaging... I realize there is a market for this, but I just toss mine if I don't want to keep it...

Hmm, I have never sold or tossed my packaging because I can't afford to buy that frequently yet, and I am obsessed with keeping the entire set, but I think from a sustainability perspective, selling or gifting shouldn't be looked down upon. If you don't want the packaging anymore but it'll make someone else very happy, I think it's better to either gift the item (or sell), than to have it end up in a landfill.
 
I agree with all that been discussed but not surprising the HR letter. I am sure the corporate HR has consulted with their legal team to make such unique notification to their client(s). We don’t know the whole story behind an hour long video, it’s her video so she can choose what contents including the “emails“ she wants the public to see. Could there be other “emails” resulting the HR letter? I don’t know and probably will never find out the real truth :girlsigh:
 
Hmm, I have never sold or tossed my packaging because I can't afford to buy that frequently yet, and I am obsessed with keeping the entire set, but I think from a sustainability perspective, selling or gifting shouldn't be looked down upon.

In my view, the main concern for selling packaging, bags, ribbons, etc. is that scam vendors purchase them with the intent of trying to pass off a counterfeit as authentic. But I agree with sustainability.
 
I have seen bits and pieces of this video, but oh my god, those email are all pages long... and so personal... And she sounds so stressed and emotional about the whole thing. The whole thing being the process of buying a bag.

If HR intervened and for what is said, the SA must have been in some serious distress. Whether that legitimately really had to do with the behaviour of the influencer we cannot really know.

While this is all a bit extreme, I do think it is kind of representative of the way Hermes has gone. I can understand the brand’s strategy but it has all become a bit too much and resulted in too much drama. The whole current vocabulary around Hermes... the Hermes journey, the pre-spend, my SA, how great a relationship is with a SA, being offered a bag, being surprised with a bag... It is all so emotional... Hermes is all over the influencer world right now, so I predict more drama to come...
 
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