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umm, its a noble thing shes doing by adopting children. I dont understand why people have to bash her for this or give her a hard time because rules were bent for her. who cares? another helpless child would be out of poverty
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Personally the probablem I have with celebrities getting preferential treatment is this says to me that some countries are willing to "sell" their children to rich people. Forget about Angelina - what about a wealthy pedophile who gets preferential treatment too? What about a wealthy business person who buys children so that they can put them to work as sex slaves or put them to work in some third world horrible factory?

When special treatment is available for wealthy people versus others, besides the unfairness to the people who are not rich and famous and trying to adopt, it could have terrible consequences for the children being adopted.

I think what Angelina and Madonna are doing is opening the door for other people to abuse the privilige of adoption. I have no problem with them adopting kids from wherever but I think they should have to follow the laws of the countries involved, and the laws should be set up for the protection of adopted children above anything else. Peggy
 
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I assume AJ already had her home study done. If a foreign country uses their discretion to speed up the process than it can't be that bad. FWIW, I've known regular folk who also had US athorities intervene and get their foreign adoptions squared away quicker because of red tape. Its how it goes when you entangle yourself with a foreign adoption. Sometimes you need help, sometimes money talks, sometimes its not so black and white.

If an adopted kid falls into the wrong family, thats a failure with the system that screens prespective parents.
 
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I can't imagine how she handles everything, even with help. She seems to be a very involved mother and the needs of several children that young make me tired just thinking about it! No deep thoughts on the foreign adoption process, but the Vietnamese boy going to their home is a fortunate child.
 
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^^^ i totally agree Snoozle

i think it is a wonderfull thing that she could adopt and provides a child a more hopeful future , espcially for those from developing/underdeveloping world. It is not only the benefitial for the child but it might be for those countries, 3rd world area in the long future as well . ( i guess they would want to raise their children up to appreciate the world and give a helping hand where they are needed )
I totally agree with someone who stated above that international adoption is such a grey area. So is OTHER AFFAIRS. Plus, the Vietnam authorities has already replied that AJ is not violating the law. So why do we keep on digging into this matter that we are not so sure of. Plus, Im rather happy for any "normal" one who is adopting because the grey area is actually clearing up for them.
 
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But she's giving the orphanage 2 million dollars. Talk about greasing the gears.

International adoption is VERY difficult, even for a married couple. She is unmarried and already has kids. In a 'normal' process, she is supposed to be pushed down the list in favor of a childless two parent home.

I have friends who are wealthy and have been trying to adopt a child from abroad for about five years now, so I've heard all about this. The wife called me crying the other day when this story broke and said, "I can't BELIEVE they are letting her (AJ) BUY another kid when we've been to Vietnam twice and are still waiting!!!"

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yes but she is donating $2million to a place that probably has very limited resources. I don't see that as a bad thing, and I am not convinced about the whole a country selling its children - it is simply her high international profile that got her the child quicker. I am pretty sure the boy is more than glad to leave an orphanage and go live with her. I fail to see the issue here - would you prefer to have the child living there?
 
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MichelleAntonia said:
yeah, i totally agree.
she's doing a great thing by giving these kids a home, but ive always wondered why, if shes adopting so many kids, not give an american child a home too? its not like there aren't orphans here who need homes just as much...
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maybe she considers american orphanages better places than vietnamese and cambodian ones??? actually, so what, that is her choice. in the end she is giving a child a new home and I am sure a good one and loving one.
 
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But she's giving the orphanage 2 million dollars. Talk about greasing the gears.

International adoption is VERY difficult, even for a married couple. She is unmarried and already has kids. In a 'normal' process, she is supposed to be pushed down the list in favor of a childless two parent home.

I have friends who are wealthy and have been trying to adopt a child from abroad for about five years now, so I've heard all about this. The wife called me crying the other day when this story broke and said, "I can't BELIEVE they are letting her (AJ) BUY another kid when we've been to Vietnam twice and are still waiting!!!"

This is not good IMO..........
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I don't pretend to fully understand the anguish of people like your friends who desperately want to adopt. But I did experience infertility problems and the pain is so deep it's unimaginable. Seeing these stories must make it hurt that much more. Hoping and praying that they can adopt a child before too long.
 
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boxermom said:
I don't pretend to fully understand the anguish of people like your friends who desperately want to adopt. But I did experience infertility problems and the pain is so deep it's unimaginable. Seeing these stories must make it hurt that much more. Hoping and praying that they can adopt a child before too long.
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They know they could get a child in Vietnam or elsewhere like YESTERDAY if they "donated" enough money like AJ is doing. They are wealthy enough to do that (he's a former Microsoft exec) but they don't want to do that. They want to be able to get a child LEGITIMATELY, which to them means without being extorted for money. I hope I don't offend anyone, but that's what this is. Grease the palms of the locals officials and get your child under the guise of it going to "charity". Sorry I am so cynical but it is very sad to me.

Thanks for your thoughts, I have watched my friend struggle with these issues and indeed they are very painful for her.
 
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lara0112 said:
yes but she is donating $2million to a place that probably has very limited resources. I don't see that as a bad thing, and I am not convinced about the whole a country selling its children - it is simply her high international profile that got her the child quicker. I am pretty sure the boy is more than glad to leave an orphanage and go live with her. I fail to see the issue here - would you prefer to have the child living there?
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I have to say I don't think the issue is to let the boy stay in the orphanage or not, but how many people-esp. middle class families are just as qualified as AJ to adopt, and they are stymied (but persist using their limited resources) to adopt a child. I live in a state where there is a lot of adoption -both domestically and internationally, and it's heartbreaking to see good people pushed to the back of the line/made to jump through lots of hoops-esp. after they've connected with their children in an orphanage.

Beyond that, not sure if AJ wanted to be a role model/encourage others to adopt internationally, but I remember comments she made about Madonna's adoption problems. She came across as an authority, above board, and a little holier-than-thou about following adoption rules. For the rules to apparently bent so openly for her to adopt again-just smacks of hypocrisy and insensitivity to others that don't share her wealth and celebrity.
 
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I'm glad Angelina is giving another child a loving home. She's is not breaking any laws or getting special favor. It's commonly known that adopting an older child takes less time. Most adoptive families have to wait for an infant. I've looked into international adoption and you can adopt an older child or a waiting child much faster than babies. But, I've also read she started the process last May, so it's not like she did this all in 2 weeks.
 
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