Spend threshold for B/K/C

[rumes]

I don’t know if she will offer you a bag. You say she promised you a bag in July so you’ll just have to see. My point was if she does offer you a bag before you spend anything additional, I wouldn’t take that to mean that you don’t need to spend to get bags. I would take it to mean that she’s acting on faith that you WILL spend and if you then don’t, you likely won’t get future bag offers. If you have things you intend to buy, I wouldn’t play these games. Buy the things you intend to buy and see what happens.

I'm not playing any games right now. She already knows that we're trying to buy an apartment. Of course, I can't get the chair before the apartment 😂

As for the watch – she knows I'm buying it together with my cousin, so I'm waiting for her to get mine too.

Our SA considers me local too like my cousin. So it's not a game; it's a matter of timing.

 

[rumes]

I wouldn’t take that to mean that you don’t need to spend to get bags

I especially want to respond to this. The reason I asked was entirely focused on the opinions of local customers.

My dh and children are French citizens. Although we are currently living abroad as expats, she knows that I will eventually return to the country. I’m also a long-term customer. Because of the country I’m currently living in as an expat, I don’t want to unintentionally reflect a misleading spending profile. That’s also why I space out my purchases. Otherwise, of course, I do buy the things I need and genuinely like.

I have the utmost respect for experience, but I don't believe I can get an accurate response from anyone other than Paris’ local customer profiles or those who have developed relationships that are close enough to be considered local.

I believe in the power of relationships in Paris. I think I was able to place my special order (which you even mentioned would definitely be canceled due to the stitches color) thanks to this relationship.

Many thanks for your reply 🙏🏻

 

[stupidolive]

Maybe i have too much time on Sunday so here I am chiming in again 😅 rumes i think you should trust your gut instinct and your relationship with your SA. Fwiw my sa in paris told me some French locals felt like they should be rewarded with bags faster than tourists but its not that simple (there is a spending level involved).

There is a little misunderstanding here because its true that you seemed to suggest you were holding off purchases until she offers you a bag… so it can be interpreted as a strategic way to get your bag.

Hope you will get your dream bag soon!

ETA: of course its my 2 cents and I am a newbie 😄 looking forward to other people’s opinions. I always learn something from here!

 

[rumes]

Maybe i have too much time on Sunday so here I am chiming in again 😅 rumes i think you should trust your gut instinct and your relationship with your SA. Fwiw my sa in paris told me some French locals felt like they should be rewarded with bags faster than tourists but its not that simple (there is spending level involved).

There is a little misunderstanding here because its true that you seemed to suggest you were holding off purchases until she offers you a bag… so it can be interpreted as a strategic way to get your bag.

Hope you will get your dream bag soon!

ETA: of course its my 2 cents 😄 looking forward to other people’s opinions. I always learn something from here!

Wishing you a lovely Sunday 🩷

As I said, I was genuinely curious about the opinions of locals. That’s why I asked my question.

I’m continuing to make my purchases. I’m not chasing bags. I always go for very specific items. For example, I was offered a special order precisely because of this specificity.

My SA, who mentioned that she would offer me a bag over the summer due to my purchases coinciding with the fashion shows, said this even after the special order. So I simply asked whether that would still be valid. But the conversation ended up going in a completely different direction.

And of course we are here yo learn 😍

 

[bextasy]

Anyone have a recent prespend for a Dore MK? Ty

 

[880]

Did this spending reset with the SO offer, or is it still valid in the context of prespend?

I have always been told, at FSH, spend doesn’t matter bc they are not on commission. Which makes me think that for a pre planned visit, they may have some leeway to offer depending on their own internal metrics. In other words, I don’t think spend resets in Paris the way it might in Dubai or Singapore (two cities that seem pretty spend driven)

To be honest, during my Paris experience, I realized that the relationship is more important than my spending. What do you think?

Of course. My FSH and local SAs both refer to their preference for lifestyle clients, specifically they define those clients as main focus is NOT bag centric

My SA promised me a bag for July. Now, if the SO offer from March is considered separately, do I need to make another purchase, or should I just wait and see what she will do?

Whether your SA will be allowed to offer you another bag with a pending SO is something that I would literally ask her, but only assuming you can do so with an eye towards satisfying curiosity, not demonstrating desire for acquisition. As in, I’d like to ask you a question bc I don’t understand the process/ how offers work/ what the timeframe is / how the decision is made . (I’d also assume that she knows you have been offered and have accepted an SO bc it’s in your profile somewhere). If not, I would tell her.

I would certainly not assume or ask if another purchase is necessary. To me, that idea would seem to communicate gamesmanship or at least calculation or quid pro quo acquisition/ pay to play which is not your intention

She might be genuinely really surprised that you still want another bag given your SO was offered and accepted, and she may wonder what the hurry is. At least, this is what my FSH SA would think. I can say I know how she thinks with some certainty as DH has spent a lot of time with her asking and getting extensive answers to all sorts of (what I think of as inappropriate ) questions while I’m in the dressing room. And so we’ve gotten to know each other relatively well (I mean to say, I know about her family and stuff and she knows about me).

would take it to mean that she’s acting on faith that you WILL spend and if you then don’t, you likely won’t get future bag offers.

Agree 💯 esp for a local lifestyle client. As such, she may not be in any hurry and, she may assume that you are in no rush either.

French locals felt like they should be rewarded with bags faster than tourists but it’s not that simple (there is a spending level involved).

There is a little misunderstanding here because it’s true that you seemed to suggest you were holding off purchases until she offers you a bag… so it can be interpreted as a strategic way to get your bag.

Agree that these questions seem strategic / game like, though this is not your intent.

ETA: my FSH SA treats me more like a local than a tourist, though I only visit twice a year. If I don’t find anything on one trip, she shrugs and says next time. And, it doesn’t seem to adversely affect my offers (some of which are rejected) which have occurred on every visit. However, as I mentioned above, my SA is now part time, and she has told me that she cannot offer as much as she used to. (She did offer me an so Kelly elan when she told me this, and I bought only a silk skirt ; nothing else fit). But, imo only, I don’t think truly local clients get more bags. If only bc their SAs believe that locals aren’t as bag crazed as tourists (I’ve heard this statement from my SA).

Re a promise or intention to buy a chair. No SA counts on that kind of promise until the purchase is made. Plans could change; aesthetics could change. Etc. similarly, I don’t think one can absolutely count on a promise for a bag until that bag is in your hands (not bc N SA is trying to mislead) but her manager could say, hey, hold off bc your client just got an SO, and you have someone else who doesn’t have any offer for the past 18 months.

ETA: in my local store, my current and former SA have told me that there is no prohibition (like six months between bags). Meaning if you haven’t gotten bags in 18 months, no reason why you’d have to wait if two perfect bags for you popped up in quick succession. Having said that, I think this is correct in theory (as in this is what the SAs may have been taught in their training bf the demand for bags on social media exploded)

In actual real life practice, in 2025, their SMs might be loath to approve bags in quick succession. And, I think this attitude might also apply to SOs. Could there be a level of spend that might garner approval. Possibly, but people with that level of spend (I am not one) do not need to ask. (Im not being facetious; I mean this literally). I’m referring to my former SAs clients who furnish multiple homes in Hermes furniture — couches, dining room sets, game room accoutrements; chandeliers; leather wall coverings (I’m not in that league, nor will I ever be).

 

[rumes]

Whether your SA will be allowed to offer you another bag with a pending SO is something that I would literally ask her, but only assuming you can do so with an eye towards satisfying curiosity, not demonstrating desire for acquisition. As in, I’d like to ask you a question bc I don’t understand the process/ how offers work/ what the timeframe is / how the decision is made . (I’d also assume that she knows you have been offered and have accepted an SO bc it’s in your profile somewhere). If not, I would tell her.

To be honest, I'm not after the bag (money). My green (weed) is so valuable to me that nothing else could even be a goal. I only asked this question because it had already been mentioned, just in case it still applies.

would certainly not assume or ask if another purchase is necessary. To me, that idea would seem to communicate gamesmanship or at least calculation or quid pro quo acquisition/ pay to play which is not your intention

Never!

we’ve gotten to know each other relatively well (I mean to say, I know about her family and stuff and she knows about me).

Same! As you know bec of my cousin, she is counting me as different.


Thank you for all words 🤍

 

[tinkerbell68]

I have always been told, at FSH, spend doesn’t matter bc they are not on commission. Which makes me think that for a pre planned visit, they may have some leeway to offer depending on their own internal metrics. In other words, I don’t think spend resets in Paris the way it might in Dubai or Singapore (two cities that seem pretty spend driven)

Of course. My FSH and local SAs both refer to their preference for lifestyle clients, specifically they define those clients as main focus is NOT bag centric

Whether your SA will be allowed to offer you another bag with a pending SO is something that I would literally ask her, but only assuming you can do so with an eye towards satisfying curiosity, not demonstrating desire for acquisition. As in, I’d like to ask you a question bc I don’t understand the process/ how offers work/ what the timeframe is / how the decision is made . (I’d also assume that she knows you have been offered and have accepted an SO bc it’s in your profile somewhere). If not, I would tell her.

I would certainly not assume or ask if another purchase is necessary. To me, that idea would seem to communicate gamesmanship or at least calculation or quid pro quo acquisition/ pay to play which is not your intention

She might be genuinely really surprised that you still want another bag given your SO was offered and accepted, and she may wonder what the hurry is. At least, this is what my FSH SA would think. I can say I know how she thinks with some certainty as DH has spent a lot of time with her asking and getting extensive answers to all sorts of (what I think of as inappropriate ) questions while I’m in the dressing room. And so we’ve gotten to know each other relatively well (I mean to say, I know about her family and stuff and she knows about me).

Agree 💯 esp for a local lifestyle client. As such, she may not be in any hurry and, she may assume that you are in no rush either.


Agree that these questions seem strategic / game like, though this is not your intent.

ETA: my FSH SA treats me more like a local than a tourist, though I only visit twice a year. If I don’t find anything on one trip, she shrugs and says next time. And, it doesn’t seem to adversely affect my offers (some of which are rejected) which have occurred on every visit. However, as I mentioned above, my SA is now part time, and she has told me that she cannot offer as much as she used to. (She did offer me an so Kelly elan when she told me this, and I bought only a silk skirt ; nothing else fit). But, imo only, I don’t think truly local clients get more bags. If only bc their SAs believe that locals aren’t as bag crazed as tourists (I’ve heard this statement from my SA).

Re a promise or intention to buy a chair. No SA counts on that kind of promise until the purchase is made. Plans could change; aesthetics could change. Etc. similarly, I don’t think one can absolutely count on a promise for a bag until that bag is in your hands (not bc N SA is trying to mislead) but her manager could say, hey, hold off bc your client just got an SO, and you have someone else who doesn’t have any offer for the past 18 months.

ETA: in my local store, my current and former SA have told me that there is no prohibition (like six months between bags). Meaning if you haven’t gotten bags in 18 months, no reason why you’d have to wait if two perfect bags for you popped up in quick succession. Having said that, I think this is correct in theory (as in this is what the SAs may have been taught in their training bf the demand for bags on social media exploded)

In actual real life practice, in 2025, their SMs might be loath to approve bags in quick succession. And, I think this attitude might also apply to SOs. Could there be a level of spend that might garner approval. Possibly, but people with that level of spend (I am not one) do not need to ask. (Im not being facetious; I mean this literally). I’m referring to my former SAs clients who furnish multiple homes in Hermes furniture — couches, dining room sets, game room accoutrements; chandeliers; leather wall coverings (I’m not in that league, nor will I ever be).

As always, you have shared so much great advice/wisdom/experience…thank you!

 

[880]

As always, you have shared so much great advice/wisdom/experience…thank you!

Thanks so much @tinkerbell68
I’ve learned a lot from this forum. From members like @acrowcounted, @haute okole , @Bdbunny ,
and many others, so it’s like passing it forward. Or regurgitating lol.

It just occurred to me, someone, perhaps @DoggieBags, may have said that the number/ caliber of bags an SA can offer may be limited/tied/associated with percentages or amounts of other categories the SA has sold in that time frame. (apologies if I’m butchering this concept). My FSH SA asks that I provide ample notice for appts, and it’s possible that if she can, she might try to save me something from her allocation (but I have no idea).

My impression is that whether someone is offered anything may not have anything to do with factors in the clients control. Perhaps not even the SAs. or, if a new client buys a ton, but the SM says, no bags until x months have passed. . .perhaps an older client who is eligible for a bag, might benefit. Again, my guess or impression, not based on specific statements.

 

[Bdbunny]

Thanks so much @tinkerbell68
I’ve learned a lot from this forum. From members like @acrowcounted, @haute okole , @Bdbunny ,
and many others, so it’s like passing it forward. Or regurgitating lol.

It just occurred to me, someone, perhaps @DoggieBags, may have said that the number/ caliber of bags an SA can offer may be limited/tied/associated with percentages or amounts of other categories the SA has sold in that time frame. (apologies if I’m butchering this concept). My FSH SA asks that I provide ample notice for appts, and it’s possible that if she can, she might try to save me something from her allocation (but I have no idea).

My impression is that whether someone is offered anything may not have anything to do with factors in the clients control. Perhaps not even the SAs. or, if a new client buys a ton, but the SM says, no bags until x months have passed. . .perhaps an older client who is eligible for a bag, might benefit. Again, my guess or impression, not based on specific statements.

I have heard in some stores, the coveted bags may go to the SA with the highest sales the prior month (or whatever time frame they use.) My SA has also told me sometimes for coveted items, like rodeos for example, it’s raffled off to a lucky SA, who can then offer it to their favorite client. They also sometimes hold sales contests, like the SA who sells the most blankets (ahem, blanket bonanza of 2023 🤣). Most recently my SA said the contest was selling the most orans and chypres. One time the prize was an extra SO spot. Another time it was a free pair of shoes for the SA, and once I was told it was an RMS luggage for the SA! (But they thought it might a display item.)
So it seems like bag/item allocation may vary from store to store depending on the SM. Although sometimes it seems like my SA just goes to the stockroom and re-emerges with a croc MK that happens to be sitting on the shelf. 🤷🏻‍♀️Don’t ask me how!

 

[OnlyModa]

It just occurred to me, someone, perhaps @DoggieBags, may have said that the number/ caliber of bags an SA can offer may be limited/tied/associated with percentages or amounts of other categories the SA has sold in that time frame. (apologies if I’m butchering this concept). My FSH SA asks that I provide ample notice for appts, and it’s possible that if she can, she might try to save me something from her allocation (but I have no idea).

My impression is that whether someone is offered anything may not have anything to do with factors in the clients control. Perhaps not even the SAs. or, if a new client buys a ton, but the SM says, no bags until x months have passed. . .perhaps an older client who is eligible for a bag, might benefit. Again, my guess or impression, not based on specific statements.

I know my European SA knows two months in advance what is coming and has saved bags for me for weeks. I do not think it was on their hold shelf but I think understood by all that I would be coming soon enough and want that bag. Perhaps it is that store; perhaps it is my spend + that store; perhaps it is that store+ my SA + my spend; perhaps it is some other set of factors. Bottom line: stores know what they are getting and when, most have some bags in the back and there are no set rules. (And this is exactly why I think my US store is playing games with me).

 

[Veritybelle]

I know my European SA knows two months in advance what is coming and has saved bags for me for weeks. I do not think it was on their hold shelf but I think understood by all that I would be coming soon enough and want that bag. Perhaps it is that store; perhaps it is my spend + that store; perhaps it is that store+ my SA + my spend; perhaps it is some other set of factors. Bottom line: stores know what they are getting and when, most have some bags in the back and there are no set rules. (And this is exactly why I think my US store is playing games with me).

💯 My SA definitely knows exactly what is coming and has often earmarked bags for me in advance.

 

[bextasy]

Do the st.louis products count towards the ratio and do they sell them in the US? Ty

 

[Bdbunny]

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Do the st.louis products count towards the ratio and do they sell them in the US? Ty

yes and yes. But you have to buy them through your SA at the boutique, not directly from St Louis.

 

[bextasy]

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yes and yes. But you have to buy them through your SA at the boutique, not directly from St Louis.

Thank you!