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Def relationship bags! I know someone who was offered a cargo b25 with a 1:1 spend, (but has a very strong relat with her newish SA).These are "relationship bags". If you have a strong client relationship, you can get one; if not, it's going to take a heavy spend. The Picnic in particular is hard right now, because Hermès knows that all the auction houses are asking collectors for Picnics, and that it's a hot bag at resale. (You can always safely assume that Hermès is tracking this stuff, because they are.)
Nope, in my case less. But this answer will vary greatly depending on your relationship, location, tenure, and time between bagsHi! Does prespend increase when you finally ask for a Mini Kelly (in a coveted color)? I have a few QB’s (size 25) and have had the same prespend for all. Wondering if I ask for a mini next, will that change? TIA!
FSH sounds like a dream! If only I lived in Paris, sigh.Nope, in my case less. But this answer will vary greatly depending on your relationship, location, tenure, and time between bags
At FSH, my SA says zero requirement for prespend to get bags. But, clients obviously are happy to spend on stuff they love.
Of course there is a level of spend where you are likely to get what you want, when you want it too. Some SAs and clients are more transactional and bag oriented.
There’s a clear philosophical difference there lol
As a point of comparison to prespend, Kelly pochettes are in Japanese reseller boutiques all over Tokyo. I saw maybe 4 of them, some in great condition, some not, for the equivalent of 12 or 14K USD for swift (I wasn’t looking to buy one, but i was interested in pricing). January 2025How much prespend to be offered a Kelly Pochette in Europe? The bag is 5.600 euros.
I know it is hard to find one but dreaming doesn’t need any spend.
Bump. Vaguely remembered this post and was looking for it, as someone messaged me about whether not getting a bag for a while increased your priority. Thank you @acrowcountedEventually not getting a bag for so long increases your priority. Its why its so hard to get a second bag in the calendar year; you have to outspend everyone else that wants a second bag AND make it worth while to give you a second while many still haven't even gotten one. This bump in priority probably isn't enough to make one competitive for a super coveted bag (B/K25, mini Kellys) but isn't a bad thing over all. ie all other things equal, someone who has been shopping for a while at a low/med level without a bag offer will be favored over someone who is new and has spent the same in a short period, and over someone who has spent the same and already gotten a qb this year. It’s probably still going to be 3-5x but over two years instead of 6 months.
I am soon going to test this theory/approachBump. Vaguely remembered this post and was looking for it, as someone messaged me about whether not getting a bag for a while increased your priority. Thank you @acrowcountedMy emphasis added to ^^
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The post I quoted from @acrowcounted did suggest that moderate spend would still be 3-5X, but spread over 2 years. In my own experience, I’ve found that post to be quite accurate. Circumstances of reduced spend (if you simply love stuff but sizes and styles aren’t available) or the types of bags one is requesting would also IMO impact how well relatively lower spend is perceived. That’s JMO thoughI am soon going to test this theory/approachI have not brought up the question of a QB for over a year, and there has been nothing in my wishlist since my last offer. I've been shopping every 2-3 months at a very modest spending. Curious to see what my SA is going to say about me getting a Birkin
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Fair. I think I got to around 1:1 within a year, as shopping really has not been a priority lately. I do not have any hopes/expectations that I am going to be offered anything earlier than in a year, while I continue shopping.The post I quoted from @acrowcounted did suggest that moderate spend would still be 3-5X, but spread over 2 years. In my own experience, I’ve found that post to be quite accurate. Circumstances of reduced spend (if you simply love stuff but sizes and styles aren’t available) or the types of bags one is requesting would also IMO impact how well relatively lower spend is perceived. That’s JMO though![]()
but how did you know? I don't remember ever mentioning itWow, you have a Mini Kelly picnic?? It's a beautiful item, please share pics!
In the U.S.? I have two friends that got it in the past two years - both spend around 1 to 2:1. VIP accounts.Anyone have a ratio idea for a cargo birkin and picnic birkin? Ty
When you say VIP account what are you considering? Because 2:1 is a relatively low spend for that. TyIn the U.S.? I have two friends that got it in the past two years - both spend around 1 to 2:1. VIP accounts.
I have another friend that just got a Kelly doll, sold it, and through the same reseller bought a Birkin picnic brand new. She spent less for the picnic this way than she would have spent in store. Her account is very recent, less than two years, but also VIP in a few countries.
In small town Europe it is more relationship based than prespend based. I heard from two stores that SAs can nominate one client each for two special bags a year. A list with names is submitted to Paris, and Paris approves who the bag goes to. In this particular country, some boutiques cover neighboring countries that don’t have stores, so these boutiques have to have the special bags approved by Paris.
The other stores that cater to locals have the bag approved by that country’s corporate office. Each small store receive max of 1 a year of a particular model, some years none.
They are VIP in the system (I think it is the level just below collector, which is the highest level I believe).When you say VIP account what are you considering? Because 2:1 is a relatively low spend for that. Ty
@Angiebbb do you mind to share the requirements for spend and tenure to be considered as VIP?They are VIP in the system (I think it is the level just below collector, which is the highest level I believe).
I heard that being VIP in the system is not only based on spend. It is spend, tenure, types of products you buy and other factors which they never tell you but we all have an idea of what they are. They buy exotic belts, shoes, SLGs (including ones with diamond covered hardware/clasp) and NQBs, stuff that doesn’t move easily. I am sure the stores look at their gross spend, including SLGs, NQBs. Their prespend excluding SLGs and NQBs (as I understand it is calculated) is what I mentioned.