Spend threshold for B/K/C

[Angiebbb]

@Angiebbb do you mind to share the requirements for spend and tenure to be considered as VIP?

Sorry dear, I have no idea. I don’t think there is a set formula. I believe they can insert anyone in the system as vip if they wish, while others have to work for it. LV used to be like that for example, not sure if it still is.

My friend’s SA told her $100k prespend in a quarter in the U.S., but she hasn’t tested it.

Another friend became a VIP in the system without any major spend, she is a music PR and a singer went to her home store with her twice. She gets a QB every six months religiously and buys a pair of shoes, or shawl here and there. She also has leather appointments in Paris twice a year, the singer called Michael Costes and arranged for them to come once, now she goes by herself with a leather SA and only buys bags. (Curious that singer doesn’t buy H and is always at other brands’ fashion shows). Michael costes did post a photo with him.

The ones I mentioned in my prior posts buy shoes, belts and NQBs exotic. My best friend abroad buys furniture and lots of SLGs, also exotics. Another friend mainly buys jewelry but no single piece over $15k and never spends more than $15-20k before a QB. She got a Himalaya in her prior store with little prespend during Covid.

I thought it was very easy to sell exotic shoes, belts, SLGs, but apparently it is not. I knew that non coveted exotic NQBs were hard to sell.

I think being a big fan of a particular category or product, even if spend is not high, helps, especially if it is a category not everyone buys from, as furniture, jewelry, equestrian and the exotics that sit around.

The highest status in the system is collector, so I suppose one can be a collector of anything, it doesn’t need to be bags. I don’t think it works as much for silk and shoes, but for other categories, if you are buying often items that are not easy to move, there is probably a star in your favor somewhere.

My husband has one account abroad where the store manager became very excited all of a sudden bc she saw a photo of my CDC collection. The past few days we received photos of every CDC you can think of that I don’t have, and now she sends me the nicest messages, voice messages and kiss emojis. She loves CDCs and said she never saw a photo of so many together. She asked what bags I wished for in the future and to trust her that even if her stock is small and she has little control over it, that she will work on it for me little by little. I was shocked. Seriously shocked.

This is a case of excitement being contagious. I also got a bag offer once because this SA saw I’ve had Bastias and calvis painted with photos of my late dog. She took a photo and sent to their leather department chat (not in U.S., not Paris).

Being a collector of something might be a road somewhere, but who knows? I am not a VIP so I don’t know.

 

[bextasy]

Sorry dear, I have no idea. I don’t think there is a set formula. I believe they can insert anyone in the system as vip if they wish, while others have to work for it. LV used to be like that for example, not sure if it still is.

My friend’s SA told her $100k prespend in a quarter in the U.S., but she hasn’t tested it.

Another friend became a VIP in the system without any major spend, she is a music PR and a singer went to her home store with her twice. She gets a QB every six months religiously and buys a pair of shoes, or shawl here and there. She also has leather appointments in Paris twice a year, the singer called Michael Costes and arranged for them to come once, now she goes by herself with a leather SA and only buys bags. (Curious that singer doesn’t buy H and is always at other brands’ fashion shows). Michael costes did post a photo with him.

The ones I mentioned in my prior posts buy shoes, belts and NQBs exotic. My best friend abroad buys furniture and lots of SLGs, also exotics. Another friend mainly buys jewelry but no single piece over $15k and never spends more than $15-20k before a QB. She got a Himalaya in her prior store with little prespend during Covid.

I thought it was very easy to sell exotic shoes, belts, SLGs, but apparently it is not. I knew that non coveted exotic NQBs were hard to sell.

I think being a big fan of a particular category or product, even if spend is not high, helps, especially if it is a category not everyone buys from, as furniture, jewelry, equestrian and the exotics that sit around.

The highest status in the system is collector, so I suppose one can be a collector of anything, it doesn’t need to be bags. I don’t think it works as much for silk and shoes, but for other categories, if you are buying often items that are not easy to move, there is probably a star in your favor somewhere.

My husband has one account abroad where the store manager became very excited all of a sudden bc she saw a photo of my CDC collection. The past few days we received photos of every CDC you can think of that I don’t have, and now she sends me the nicest messages, voice messages and kiss emojis. She loves CDCs and said she never saw a photo of so many together. She asked what bags I wished for in the future and to trust her that even if her stock is small and she has little control over it, that she will work on it for me little by little. I was shocked. Seriously shocked.

This is a case of excitement being contagious. I also got a bag offer once because this SA saw I’ve had Bastias and calvis painted with photos of my late dog. She took a photo and sent to their leather department chat (not in U.S., not Paris).

Being a collector of something might be a road somewhere, but who knows? I am not a VIP so I don’t know.

So it seems like if they offered an exotic charm or something exotic they would want to sell it to you because it is more challenging?

 

[Goldenbelle]

Maybe a stupid question, but would you say someone who’s offered a exotic k25 or 28 (or B25/30 for that sake) is a VIP? Or does it make you a VIP to accept one of these? Or both?

Specifically just talking about tge smaller size Ks and Bs here and no other exotic leather bags.

 

[acrowcounted]

Maybe a stupid question, but would you say someone who’s offered a exotic k25 or 28 (or B25/30 for that sake) is a VIP? Or does it make you a VIP to accept one of these? Or both?

Specifically just talking about tge smaller size Ks and Bs here and no other exotic leather bags.

Neither. Exotics are fairly easy to get in size 25 and above. Minis are a slightly different matter but typically spend for an exotic isnt even 1:1 and they have trouble selling them.

 

[Bdbunny]

Neither. Exotics are fairly easy to get in size 25 and above. Minis are a slightly different matter but typically spend for an exotic isnt even 1:1 and they have trouble selling them.

Agree. As an example, I was offered a full exotic B30 in vert rousseau literally 2 months and maybe $10k spend into a new boutique relationship as my first QB offer from this SA. They also told me a B25 full croc in noir was available, which of course I preferred. Unfortunately that one was not approved by management! So they were willing to sell me the B30 croc but not the B25 croc.
I later received a full croc mini Kelly from this boutique after more spend...

 

[acrowcounted]

Agree. As an example, I was offered a full exotic B30 in vert rousseau literally 2 months and maybe $10k spend into a new boutique relationship as my first QB offer from this SA. They also told me a B25 full croc in noir was available, which of course I preferred. Unfortunately that one was not approved by management! So they were willing to sell me the B30 croc but not the B25 croc.
I later received a full croc mini Kelly from this boutique after more spend...

My SA once offered to waive the 2/year quota limit if I would come in and buy an exotic B30 within the next week (It'd have been my third B of the year). They had at least five different colors in the back room that they had to get off the books by the end of the month and no one they called was biting.

 

[BreezyE]

My SA once offered to waive the 2/year quota limit if I would come in and buy an exotic B30 within the next week (It'd have been my third B of the year). They had at least five different colors in the back room that they had to get off the books by the end of the month and no one they called was biting.

2 years ago I was also offered a 3rd qb in full croc.

@Goldenbelle I have multiple exotic bags and am def not a VIP. I don't think they are as in demand because of price and the leather is more fussy.

 

[Goldenbelle]

I think this is really interesting, thank you for Sharing your thoughts. Of course, exotics really do have a price tag so demand is probably Limited even with H Clients. Would love to add an Ostrich B30 though, smaller sizes are just not for me (not being a VIP by any means!).

 

[mmvv22]

2 years ago I was also offered a 3rd qb in full croc.

@Goldenbelle I have multiple exotic bags and am def not a VIP. I don't think they are as in demand because of price and the leather is more fussy.

I’m curious if it’s true for ostrich also. Once I asked at FSH if I can get ostrich Kelly (thinking it’d be easier due to higher price) but I was told that Ostrich is also popular request and harder to get because it’s exotic. I wouldn’t be surprised if SA was lying just to finish appointment sooner. I know there is always stock at FSH but curious if it’s really hard to get ostrich there

 

[Angiebbb]

So it seems like if they offered an exotic charm or something exotic they would want to sell it to you because it is more challenging?

Charms are pretty popular, they can sell those easily; my friends buy shoes (as Himalaya boots, premiere in all colors under the sun), the thick CDC belts (those are very expensive in croc, even in leather they are over 3000 euros), Kelly belts etc. Alligator bearn wallet with diamond clasp. Alligator Constance with diamond H. Lots of verrou, roulis, della, picotin, micro picotin, all in exotics. It seems stores are generally very happy to get rid of those.

I think buying lots of exotics that don’t move like those might be a way to become VIP, it happened to my friends.

Once I bought these lizard sandals in the store in the U.S. and they were defective. I exchanged them. After a year I saw the same sandals online again, and very happily bought them.

It was the same defective pair I had returned to the store, returning to me from the online store after a year without repair. 🤣They were 3,400 plus tax, neutral, reasonably priced, and in a year they didn’t sell (they should be under repair, not for sale again).

This manager told me that in her stores she would have trouble finding me special MKs, but that she can offer me alligator MKs, especially the colored ones bc local customers only buy neutrals at that price and that even a MK alligator neutral is hard to sell when it comes.

 

[miss mitzi]

Charms are pretty popular, they can sell those easily; my friends buy shoes (as Himalaya boots, premiere in all colors under the sun), the thick CDC belts (those are very expensive in croc, even in leather they are over 3000 euros), Kelly belts etc. Alligator bearn wallet with diamond clasp. Alligator Constance with diamond H. Lots of verrou, roulis, della, picotin, micro picotin, all in exotics. It seems stores are generally very happy to get rid of those.

I think buying lots of exotics that don’t move like those might be a way to become VIP, it happened to my friends.

Once I bought these lizard sandals in the store in the U.S. and they were defective. I exchanged them. After a year I saw the same sandals online again, and very happily bought them.

It was the same defective pair I had returned to the store, returning to me from the online store after a year without repair. 🤣They were 3,400 plus tax, neutral, reasonably priced, and in a year they didn’t sell (they should be under repair, not for sale again).

Alligator C with diamond sounds gorgeous!

 

[periogirl28]

I’m curious if it’s true for ostrich also. Once I asked at FSH if I can get ostrich Kelly (thinking it’d be easier due to higher price) but I was told that Ostrich is also popular request and harder to get because it’s exotic. I wouldn’t be surprised if SA was lying just to finish appointment sooner. I know there is always stock at FSH but curious if it’s really hard to get ostrich there

I really do not think he was lying. Generally exotics are actually harder to get at FSH because these are in demand with their regular clientele. For exotics, Ostrich is most available after which there is Croc/ Gator followed by Lizard. Lizard stock remains low but much improved compared to previous years.

 

[OnlyModa]

In the U.S.? I have two friends that got it in the past two years - both spend around 1 to 2:1. VIP accounts.

I have another friend that just got a Kelly doll, sold it, and through the same reseller bought a Birkin picnic brand new. She spent less for the picnic this way than she would have spent in store. Her account is very recent, less than two years, but also VIP in a few countries.

In small town Europe it is more relationship based than prespend based. I heard from two stores that SAs can nominate one client each for two special bags a year. A list with names is submitted to Paris, and Paris approves who the bag goes to. In this particular country, some boutiques cover neighboring countries that don’t have stores, so these boutiques have to have the special bags approved by Paris.

The other stores that cater to locals have the bag approved by that country’s corporate office. Each small store receive max of 1 a year of a particular model, some years none.

I agree 100%. I also feel like in those small stores it’s progressive. You get “regular” QBs for the first couple of years and then begin to qualify for more and more special bags by keeping up the same spend.

 

[Angiebbb]

Probably hard for walk-in unless influencer, celebrity? My friend just got a MK ostrich in another Paris store, but had appointment, has been client for years (but first appointment with new SA) and spent 21.000 on the spot, plus 14.000 for the bag. The SA told her - “depending on the amount and on what you spend, I know what I can offer you.” She is not a resident.

I’m curious if it’s true for ostrich also. Once I asked at FSH if I can get ostrich Kelly (thinking it’d be easier due to higher price) but I was told that Ostrich is also popular request and harder to get because it’s exotic. I wouldn’t be surprised if SA was lying just to finish appointment sooner. I know there is always stock at FSH but curious if it’s really hard to get ostrich there

 

[OnlyModa]

Probably hard for walk-in unless influencer, celebrity? My friend just got a MK ostrich in another Paris store, but had appointment, has been client for years (but first appointment with new SA) and spent 21.000 on the spot, plus 14.000 for the bag. The SA told her - “depending on the amount and on what you spend, I know what I can offer you.” She is not a resident.

my total spent including the MK ostrich was 30k euro. So 1:1. Established relationship.