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Both are neutral to me because I'm very primary colour, but the bright birds in Pierres lead me to wonder if neutral can also = unaccented. Today I have on jewellery with fiddly bits, so to avoid snagging, I only tied a twilly round my wrist. But the twilly's mint green is actually echoed exactly in the mint green crystal of my pendant and earrings. So did I co-ordinate to the point where I "neutralized" the accent colour?
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I've also come across this phrase in the SS and FW scarf threads where someone describes a cw as "wears/reads like a neutral" for them. Always wondered what that means. Does the cw suit their hair/complexion/preferred clothing colour so completely that it blends in and does not register as something separate (as in brown hair, brown jacket, brown scarf)?
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that's the idea
There are so-called neutral scarves and then there are personal neutrals.
Neutrals work on levels of contrasts between the same/similar shades and absence of colour (since they have almost no colour to define the design or pattern). Like a good black and white photo, a good design can be very sophisticated in a neutral and this is also why many think of the neutral variation as the definitive of any design.
Even neutral scarves have divisions between very high/hard contrast and low/soft contrast. The word 'neutral' makes it seem as though these should work for everyone but the wrong neutral can be as inappropriate as choosing the wrong colour. E.g. a geometric blk/wht scarf will suit someone with high-contrast and a dramatic personality whereas a shaded taupe will suit someone with less visible contrast between their features and wanting to create a more 'effortless' mood.
Those of us who always had a hard time wondering why neutrals looked a bit 'wrong' on us while others raved will have found modified neutrals and found personal neutrals that are not strictly neutrals in the non-colour sense of the word.
Then we get on to personal neutrals (I'm using myself as an example). 1. The modified neutral 'neutral'. Neither of the extremes above will suit me (I have a mixture of high and low contrasts, like drama but not too neat) and I know if a scarf has blk/wht it must also have a pop of colour (like Appaloosa with the black and white horse and strong colours all around, the horse's soft irregular spots also help soften the monochrome) . 2. The 'reads like a neutral' 'neutral': close to black and white shades like the examples I've shown so far, soft white/anthracite/aubergine of Mythique Phoenix, still pretty high-contrast but not hard or the soft white vert-gris/black-green with some soft corral of my Flamingo Party, still soft and muted but not indecipherable. Other personal neutrals can be (as you rightly surmised) shades that harmonise with someones colouring and therefore most flattering, therefore, mine could be olive green and dark-ish so Caducee Rock and both my C'est La Fetes can be considered neutrals too.
Hope this helps XXX
Thank you, dear Maedi. It isn't a Daks.Sunny and beautiful outfit and surroundings! We are still drowning in mud and rain. Is your blazer by chance a Daks? Enjoy Tuscany.
Had to pull out momasaurus' remark from a couple of weeks ago! All too appropriate!Nothing is too nerdy here, my dear. We only collect these expensive scarves for their instructive and enlightening aspects, right? #academia LOL
... a scarfie might call a carre neutral for several reasons. I know, for example, that both Pierres and Fleurs et Papillons (the ones I discussed above) are usually bright and colorful, so my colorways are definitely muted. Are muted colors neutral? Sometimes.
Dans l'Atelier de Robert Dallet -- monochrome for sure, and it matches the top, but does that make it "neutral"?
If you called it neutral with a matching top, is it still neutral on a contrasting top?
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that's the idea
There are so-called neutral scarves and then there are personal neutrals.
Neutrals work on levels of contrasts between the same/similar shades and absence of colour (since they have almost no colour to define the design or pattern).
Even neutral scarves have divisions between very high/hard contrast and low/soft contrast.
Those of us who always had a hard time wondering why neutrals looked a bit 'wrong' on us while others raved will have found modified neutrals and found personal neutrals that are not strictly neutrals in the non-colour sense of the word.
Then we get on to personal neutrals
1. The modified neutral 'neutral'.
2. The 'reads like a neutral' 'neutral'
These are fabulous!I scoured the wardrobe and realized that I do have some neutrals and monochromes. Although, considering the extremely low level of usage, you could say I'm neutral to my neutralsMost of them were bought because they were too lovely to pass on, but I haven't got the panache to pull off the Jil Sander look.
Cheval sur Mon Carre, monochrome cw of Jeune Coqs, and Central Park
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Au fil de l'inde, Dans L'atelier, and 2 anthracite MP because I'm one of those folks that @papertiger mentioned who buy dupes
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"A colorist"! Nice way of putting this. Me too. Always lots of color. I love looking at everyone's neutrals, but don't think I have any apart from the Mythique Phoenix. Since you count "our" CW of Sieste, I guess I have two!I am more of a colorist, but here are my 2 most neutral scarves:
1. Jardin de Leila ( for a navy, grey, blue lover. This is neutral LOL!)
2. Sieste au paradis ( particularly when folded to not show the bright blue section)View attachment 3648059 View attachment 3648060
+1. That closet must be amazing. But I think it's PT's way of putting things together that is so special. I would probably be overwhelmed by her closet and not know what to do!Love the way you used MP to accessorize that amazing vintage jacket, papertiger!
You put together THE most incredible outfits... would love to peek inside your closet.![]()
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that's the idea
There are so-called neutral scarves and then there are personal neutrals.
Neutrals work on levels of contrasts between the same/similar shades and absence of colour (since they have almost no colour to define the design or pattern). Like a good black and white photo, a good design can be very sophisticated in a neutral and this is also why many think of the neutral variation as the definitive of any design.
Even neutral scarves have divisions between very high/hard contrast and low/soft contrast. The word 'neutral' makes it seem as though these should work for everyone but the wrong neutral can be as inappropriate as choosing the wrong colour. E.g. a geometric blk/wht scarf will suit someone with high-contrast and a dramatic personality whereas a shaded taupe will suit someone with less visible contrast between their features and wanting to create a more 'effortless' mood.
Those of us who always had a hard time wondering why neutrals looked a bit 'wrong' on us while others raved will have found modified neutrals and found personal neutrals that are not strictly neutrals in the non-colour sense of the word.
Then we get on to personal neutrals (I'm using myself as an example). 1. The modified neutral 'neutral'. Neither of the extremes above will suit me (I have a mixture of high and low contrasts, like drama but not too neat) and I know if a scarf has blk/wht it must also have a pop of colour (like Appaloosa with the black and white horse and strong colours all around, the horse's soft irregular spots also help soften the monochrome) . 2. The 'reads like a neutral' 'neutral': close to black and white shades like the examples I've shown so far, soft white/anthracite/aubergine of Mythique Phoenix, still pretty high-contrast but not hard or the soft white vert-gris/black-green with some soft corral of my Flamingo Party, still soft and muted but not indecipherable. Other personal neutrals can be (as you rightly surmised) shades that harmonise with someones colouring and therefore most flattering, therefore, mine could be olive green and dark-ish so Caducee Rock and both my C'est La Fetes can be considered neutrals too.
Hope this helps XXX
Thank you, moma. And thanks to everyone for the Likes!These are fabulous!
I love this cw! Hermès doesn't seem to do this deep bronze color very often---a definite neutral with punch!I agree, xincinsin -- but a scarfie might call a carre neutral for several reasons. I know, for example, that both Pierres and Fleurs et Papillons (the ones I discussed above) are usually bright and colorful, so my colorways are definitely muted. Are muted colors neutral? Sometimes.
I ended up wearing Pierres today because the taupe border blended well with my taupe top and, even with the pink, I thought it was a calmer combination than the higher-contrast black and white of Fleurs. But I'm only gradually working my way into white scarves, so it might be a neutral to someone else.
Dans l'Atelier de Robert Dallet -- monochrome for sure, and it matches the top, but does that make it "neutral"?
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If you called it neutral with a matching top, is it still neutral on a contrasting top?
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Oh my! Rythmes du Monde mousseline is really a rare rare gem! In cloud!I gravitate toward the neutrals all too much! I have to stop myself from selecting a neutral cw and consider others…much like those of you who love the blues.
Rythmes du Monde mousseline
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And of course, what neutral collection would be complete without l' Atelier du Robert Dallet?
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Champignons
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I agree, xincinsin -- but a scarfie might call a carre neutral for several reasons. I know, for example, that both Pierres and Fleurs et Papillons (the ones I discussed above) are usually bright and colorful, so my colorways are definitely muted. Are muted colors neutral? Sometimes.
I ended up wearing Pierres today because the taupe border blended well with my taupe top and, even with the pink, I thought it was a calmer combination than the higher-contrast black and white of Fleurs. But I'm only gradually working my way into white scarves, so it might be a neutral to someone else.
Dans l'Atelier de Robert Dallet -- monochrome for sure, and it matches the top, but does that make it "neutral"?
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If you called it neutral with a matching top, is it still neutral on a contrasting top?
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