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The old Margrave, Max von Baden, has died yesterday.
His son Bernhard will now became the new Margrave.


Thanks for adding. Very interesting to get more insight into the interweaving of the royal relationships. I saw it announced yesterday with the brief statement & wish to express condolences to all connected with him. :smile:
 
If you're in the US and get The Smithsonian Channel on a broadcast or streaming service, they just began a repeat of their 9-hour retrospective "Elizabeth" that was originally broadcast in 2018 and updated in 2022 for her Platinum Jubilee. We're 20 minutes into Chapter 2.


 
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I have a question re: the flag at BP. Valentine Low mentioned in Courtiers that the reason The Queen initially refused to lower the flag for Diana was that the flag is never lowered as there's always a monarch. So, did they lower it for The Queen specifically, or do they generally lower it, then put it back up?
 
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I have a question re: the flag at BP. Valentine Low mentioned in Courtiers that the reason The Queen initially refused to lower the flag for Diana was that the flag is never lowered as there's always a monarch. So, did they lower it for The Queen specifically, or do they generally lower it, then put it back up?
I thought the Royal Standard only flew when the monarch was in residence. It is never lowered, even for the death of the monarch. I believe that the Union Jack was flown at half mast after the outcry from the public, not the Royal Standard.
 
The Union Flag is always on display at BP, it changed to the Royal Standard when the Monarch is there. The Union Flag was lowered to half mast at BP when the Queens death was announced. Had she been in residence there upon her death, the Royal Standard would have been lowered.
I had always thought that as well, but apparantly the Royal Standard is never lowered as there is always a monarch on the throne. Upon Queen Elizabeths death, Charles became King, so it would not have been lowered.

"The Royal Standard represents the Sovereign and the United Kingdom.

The Royal Standard is flown when The Queen is in residence in one of the Royal Palaces, on The Queen's car on official journeys and on aircraft (when on the ground).

It may also be flown on any building, official or private (but not ecclesiastical buildings), during a visit by The Queen, if the owner or proprietor so requests.

The Royal Standard also used to be flown on board the Royal Yacht, when it was in service and The Queen was on board.

Since the Union of the Crowns in 1603, the composition of the Royal Standard has taken various forms. In today's Standard there are four quarterings - England (three lions passant) in the first and fourth quarters, Scotland (a lion rampant) in the second quarter and Ireland (a harp) in the third quarter.

Wales is not represented in the Royal Standard, as its special position as a Principality was recognised by the creation of the Prince of Wales long before the incorporation of the quarterings for Scotland and Ireland in the Royal Arms.

In Scotland a different version of the Royal Standard is used, with Scottish arms in the first and fourth quarters and English arms in the second.

The Royal Standard is flown only when the Sovereign is present. If the Union Jack is flying above Buckingham Palace instead of the Standard, The Queen is not in residence.

When The Queen goes to Parliament, the Royal Standard flies from Victoria Tower.

Unlike the Union flag, the Royal Standard is never flown at half mast, even after the death of a monarch, as there is always a Sovereign on the throne."
 
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