RIP HM The Queen - Elizabeth II 1926-2022

[Traminer]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/12/06/royal-palace-can-never-afford-unfair/A royal Palace can never afford to be unfair

A very good article indeed.

May I quote:

Here are some points about this.

Misunderstandings can arise in conversations between strangers. With private social gatherings, an aggrieved guest can raise the matter afterwards by contacting the host. Ngozi Fulani did not attempt this. She quickly tweeted her version of the incident, thus turning it into a public matter without giving the Palace or Lady Susan the chance to respond privately. That was unfair.

Ms Fulani’s account of the conversation was presented as a verbatim one. How could such a dialogue have been accurately reproduced unless it had been recorded (which is not permissible at a private party)? It is unfair to rely absolutely on such an account, even if Ms Fulani was tweeting in good faith.

It has emerged that the passage that Ms Fulani broadcast was part of a longer conversation. It would be interesting to know the rest of it. Ms Fulani’s anxiety began, she suggests, when Lady Susan moved her hair from her name-badge in order to read it. It would be relevant here if the first person to have asked about the other’s name-badge had been Ms Fulani. That would have emboldened Lady Susan to reciprocate. It is unfair publicly to traduce Lady Susan on the basis of a partial account.

Buckingham Palace is insistent that Lady Susan resigned of her own free will. No doubt that is true: she has always done what she feels is her duty. But in this case, she was given almost no time and there was no serious attempt (how could there have been in a couple of hours?) to establish the facts. That was unfair.

The Palace announced that the conversation had been “deeply regrettable”. Given its incomplete state of knowledge, that was unfair too.

More:

A royal Palace can never afford to be unfair

Ngozi Fulani’s account of the conversation was presented as a verbatim one. How could such a dialogue have been accurately reproduced?

www.telegraph.co.uk

 

[Hanton]

A very good article indeed.

May I quote:



More:

A royal Palace can never afford to be unfair

Ngozi Fulani’s account of the conversation was presented as a verbatim one. How could such a dialogue have been accurately reproduced?

www.telegraph.co.uk

Thanks for quoting from the article, which I couldn’t read in full from the earlier link. The ‘episode’ is another which should have been covered by “Recollections May Vary” - at least until all the facts were established. I posted on the Harry & Meghan thread that I couldn’t see another image of Ms Fulani wearing her hair in quite such a cascading style. Normally all up or mainly up with a few ringlets down. Seems deliberate IMO. I can’t imagine this knee jerk reaction would have happened during The Queen’s time. We expect the Palace to run like a smoothly-oiled machine!

 

[Traminer]

Thanks for quoting from the article, which I couldn’t read in full from the earlier link. The ‘episode’ is another which should have been covered by “Recollections May Vary” - at least until all the facts were established. I posted on the Harry & Meghan thread that I couldn’t see another image of Ms Fulani wearing her hair in quite such a cascading style. Normally all up or mainly up with a few ringlets down. Seems deliberate IMO. I can’t imagine this knee jerk reaction would have happened during The Queen’s time. We expect the Palace to run like a smoothly-oiled machine!

I now have opened a thread for Lady Susan Hussey specially.
I think she deserves it.

Susan Hussey, Baroness Hussey of North Bradley, once Lady-inWaiting

Susan Hussey, Baroness Hussey of North Bradley, once Lady-inWaiting She has become more or less off-topic in other threads. Maybe we can talk about her in a thread of her own? Here is some info: Susan Katharine Hussey, Baroness Hussey of North Bradley, GCVO (née Waldegrave; born 1 May...

forum.purseblog.com

 

[elvisfan4life]

Thanks for quoting from the article, which I couldn’t read in full from the earlier link. The ‘episode’ is another which should have been covered by “Recollections May Vary” - at least until all the facts were established. I posted on the Harry & Meghan thread that I couldn’t see another image of Ms Fulani wearing her hair in quite such a cascading style. Normally all up or mainly up with a few ringlets down. Seems deliberate IMO. I can’t imagine this knee jerk reaction would have happened during The Queen’s time. We expect the Palace to run like a smoothly-oiled machine!

I shudder to think how the dear Queen would react to her life long loyal friend more like a sister or cousin being treated so shabbily

 

[Hanton]

I shudder to think how the dear Queen would react to her life long loyal friend more like a sister or cousin being treated so shabbily

Shabby is the word that dominated my thoughts too.

 

[Traminer]

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[Traminer]

A plea:

Could we talk about Lady Susan Hussey now in her own newly created thread?

 

[Jayne1]

I posted this in the Charles thread because we do not have a new coin for him yet, but our Royal Canadian Mint has produced a special, black-ringed toonie (our $2 coin) to commemorate her.

 

[Hanton]

Thinking about the Queen in the run up to Christmas and how we will miss the exquisite and delicate phrasing she always employed in her Christmas message. We sorely miss her calming presence. “Recollections May Vary“ has become general usage now and can be “Opinions May Vary” or “Facts May Vary” - so useful! Apparently, Sir Clive Alderton (King Charles’ Private Secretary coined that phrase. And the other response of the Queen’s I am looking forward to dropping into conversation is “intriguing”, which she said to Andrew when he told her about his friendship with Epstein (according to Gyles Brandreth in his new book about the Queen). Perhaps the Palace could publish a Little Red Book of the Queen’s Bon Mots to guide us through!

 

[Traminer]

Her Majesty had a team of loyal friends around her throughout her life.​

Here is an article about the Queen's loyal fiends:

Who Were Queen Elizabeth II’s Closest Friends And Ladies-In-Waiting?

Who are the Queen's closest friends and ladies-in-waiting? Read more on Grazia.

graziadaily.co.uk

 

[Hanton]

Here is an article about the Queen's loyal fiends:

Who Were Queen Elizabeth II’s Closest Friends And Ladies-In-Waiting?

Who are the Queen's closest friends and ladies-in-waiting? Read more on Grazia.

graziadaily.co.uk

Very interesting, thanks We need more of them! I was amused by Dame Annabel Whitehead who committed the faux pas of wearing the same colour as The Queen at the Commonwealth Games and obscured the Queen’s view with her large hat! Off with her head at the Tower of London!

 

[Hanton]

Shall we round off the year with some pics of The Queen wearing Hermes scarves.

 

[Traminer]

I was amused by Dame Annabel Whitehead who committed the faux pas of wearing the same colour as The Queen at the Commonwealth Games and obscured the Queen’s view with her large hat!

That was her:

Annabel Whitehead was temporary lady-in-waiting (1971–75), extra lady-in-waiting (1975–92), and lady-in-waiting (1992–2002) to Princess Margaret, Countess of Snowdon. In addition, she had held the office of lady-in-waiting to Queen Elizabeth II from 2002 until the Queen's death in 2022.

Annabel Whitehead - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Katel]

Shall we round off the year with some pics of The Queen wearing Hermes scarves.

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Yes please, and thank you!

 

[Hanton]

one or 2 more to cheer us up. Talk about radiant - always at her best in country gear & scarf. She must have enjoyed tying the bow each time, and picking the colour - don’t we all!

Love this one in younger days



The Mews - wonder whether it was this particular scarf on Emma the fell pony at the funeral or another colour of The Mews. Did she do ‘multiples‘ c/w of a scarf? Need to know!