RIP HM The Queen - Elizabeth II 1926-2022

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The Queen seemed to look on her cousin Alexandra as another - maybe more reliable, sister -a confidant and someone she could trust -much as she loved indeed adored Margaret she was a trial and public embarrassment to her

She was also a relatative of both Philip and The Queen. Her mother was a first cousin of Philip’s and her father was an Uncle of The Queen.
 
And showing my age the RF as I remember it from 1977 Silver Jubilee year - this was the Queens closest family her mother sister and cousins with their and her children - those Ogilvy children grew up with the Queens children as playmates as did the Kent’s children and the Queen always included them as close family right to the end and all their children and grandchildren

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I can't remember who it was, but didn't two of The Queen's cousins have girls around the time Anne was born? I faintly remember seeing a picture of the teenage "triplets".
 
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The Queen seemed to look on her cousin Alexandra as another - maybe more reliable, sister -a confidant and someone she could trust -much as she loved indeed adored Margaret she was a trial and public embarrassment to her

Her cousins supported her during her whole life. Which is why I find it so genuinely sad the exiled Sussex children will only know theirs from the newspapers.
 
Anne Tennant ( Lady indeed now Baroness Glenconner ) was engaged to Johnnie Viscount Althorpe ( later Earl Spencer Diana's father ) but his father objected to the match on the grounds of “mad blood “ - one of her grandmothers was a Trefusis and the engagement was broken off.

Seems to not have worked out that great for Earl Spencer seeing the woman he did marry abandoned her young children.

But also, did he just get engaged without consulting his father? It seems easier to put your foot down and insist there be no proposal than actually break off an engagement. I don't know about the UK, but in Germany during that time the impeded bride could sue for damages.
 
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The Queens uncle John ( her fathers younger brother ) was also hidden away from the public when he developed epilepsy and behavioural problems from the age of 4 he was kept at Wood Farm Sandringham with a nanny and staff until he died in his sleep after a seizure so sad he was a lovely little boy

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Poor little boy:sad: It was awful back then, if anyone was slightly "strange" they would be locked up in asylums or similar places. My grandmother's eldest sister was locked up somewhere aswell. I only found out after my grandparents were dead, it was a taboo subject.

George V's children were all beautiful!

Prince Philip lived at Wood Farm after he retired.
 
Poor little boy:sad: It was awful back then, if anyone was slightly "strange" they would be locked up in asylums or similar places. My grandmother's eldest sister was locked up somewhere aswell. I only found out after my grandparents were dead, it was a taboo subject.

George V's children were all beautiful!

Prince Philip lived at Wood Farm after he retired.
It was the norm for the time sadly so little was known the generic description “imbecile” was applied and they were sent away for their own protection and because society did not want to have to face such things

This saddens me as he was born in the same year as my beloved grandmother
 
It was the norm for the time sadly so little was known the generic description “imbecile” was applied and they were sent away for their own protection and because society did not want to have to face such things

This saddens me as he was born in the same year as my beloved grandmother

I know, it must have been heart breaking! My Granny was born in 1902, so same generation.
 
I’m amazed this is allowed to be shown to be honest I’ve never watched it and don’t believe most of it is true
It was reported that HMTQ watched it..so, take that for what it's worth. You can't say you don't believe most of it to be untrue if you have never watched it. I'm sure some liberties are taken. This is not an institution that they would fabricate entire plots.
 
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And showing my age the RF as I remember it from 1977 Silver Jubilee year - this was the Queens closest family her mother sister and cousins with their and her children - those Ogilvy children grew up with the Queens children as playmates as did the Kent’s children and the Queen always included them as close family right to the end and all their children and grandchildren

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Looking at Antony Armstrong-Jones, standing next to the seated Princess Margaret at left, he looks like he's sneering. Not even an attempt at a smile. He may have been a talented photographer but I do not think much of him. His 2 children with Margaret though seemed to have turned out well though and both seem to have had much happier lives than either of their parents.
 
Looking at Antony Armstrong-Jones, standing next to the seated Princess Margaret at left, he looks like he's sneering. Not even an attempt at a smile. He may have been a talented photographer but I do not think much of him. His 2 children with Margaret though seemed to have turned out well though and both seem to have had much happier lives than either of their parents.
He was a notorious rake not a very nice man at all his children were taken into the inner royal family by the Queen from an early age and it seems to have been the making of them
 
It was reported that HMTQ watched it..so, take that for what it's worth. You can't say you don't believe most of it to be untrue if you have never watched it. I'm sure some liberties are taken. This is not an institution that they would fabricate entire plots.
The Crown is fiction. I have watched it from the beginning but I also did some research during the first season to see what was true. Many plot points are untrue. The show is a drama---the writers are doing their job to make things dramatic for the viewers but it is not an accurate portrayal of the queen's reign or of the BRF.

It is not a documentary.
 
The Crown is fiction. I have watched it from the beginning but I also did some research during the first season to see what was true. Many plot points are untrue. The show is a drama---the writers are doing their job to make things dramatic for the viewers but it is not an accurate portrayal of the queen's reign or of the BRF.

It is not a documentary.

Unfortunately, there are a lot of foolish people out there that won't take the time to do any research, will take it for gospel truth, and attack members of the family via social media over dialogue and plot points that were literally made up to fill the space and connect certain, known events to one another.
 
The Crown is fiction. I have watched it from the beginning but I also did some research during the first season to see what was true. Many plot points are untrue. The show is a drama---the writers are doing their job to make things dramatic for the viewers but it is not an accurate portrayal of the queen's reign or of the BRF.

It is not a documentary.
Several articles online point out the falsehoods- here is a snippet:

The historian Hugo Vickers has already detailed eight complete fabrications in the new series, all caricaturing the royal family in the worst possible light. They are:

1. Lord Mountbatten wrote a letter to Prince Charles the day before his death.

2. The royal family laid protocol traps to humiliate Margaret Thatcher on a visit to Balmoral.

3. Princess Margaret ridiculed Princess Diana for not being able to curtsey.

4. Prince Charles called Camilla Parker Bowles every day in the early years of his marriage.

5. Princess Diana threw a tantrum on a visit to Australia and forced the plans to be changed.

6. Princess Margaret visited two of the Queen’s cousins, who had been placed in a “state lunatic asylum” to avoid embarrassing the monarchy.

7. The Queen was responsible for leaking her view of Thatcher as “uncaring”.

8. The Queen was repeatedly shown wrongly dressed for Trooping the Colour.



 
The Crown is fiction. I have watched it from the beginning but I also did some research during the first season to see what was true. Many plot points are untrue. The show is a drama---the writers are doing their job to make things dramatic for the viewers but it is not an accurate portrayal of the queen's reign or of the BRF.

It is not a documentary.
First off, I didn't say is was a documentary. Second..I was replying to a poster who claims not to have seen it and that it shouldn't be "allowed" If you took time to look up discrepancies, that's wonderful, there is a thread about it in the TV forum if you'd like to continue the conversation.
 
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