Riccardo Tisci leaving Burberry; Daniel Lee appointed new CCO

How do you feel about Riccardo Tisci leaving Burberry?

  • Great news!!!

  • So sad - I thought he was a fabulous fit :(

  • Bring back Christoper Bailey! (One can dream...)

  • I don't care :)


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The bags are a bit basic. I know BV is much more a bag company than Burberry ever was but these are nice but they are just nice and he absolutely came in swinging at BV so I was sort of expecting that again.

I wouldn't mind one of the springbok 'sporran' bags, particularly in the mustard-yellow, (the Knight???). I just don't want to pay those prices for a non leather-goods specialist bag company. With, BV (Gucci and Hermes) I know they'll look after my bag in the future should it be needed. The 'bottom' (you can see it when open) is not really necessary either.

Reminds me of Vivienne Westwood more than Bailey

I am thinking seriously about getting a silver or gold-plated silver necklace with the horse clasp, but since I just had a 18K Cartier chain break on me recently after only a month of wearing (and Gucci's silver chains are not great either) I'm going to be looking at the quality carefully. What's with jewellery quality recently? I I have antique stuff for a 100 years ago that I never have a problem with.
 
I wouldn't mind one of the springbok 'sporran' bags, particularly in the mustard-yellow, (the Knight???). I just don't want to pay those prices for a non leather-goods specialist bag company. With, BV (Gucci and Hermes) I know they'll look after my bag in the future should it be needed. The 'bottom' (you can see it when open) is not really necessary either.

Reminds me of Vivienne Westwood more than Bailey

I am thinking seriously about getting a silver or gold-plated silver necklace with the horse clasp, but since I just had a 18K Cartier chain break on me recently after only a month of wearing (and Gucci's silver chains are not great either) I'm going to be looking at the quality carefully. What's with jewellery quality recently? I I have antique stuff for a 100 years ago that I never have a problem with.

Sorry, its called The Chess
 
It's a pick n mix situation for me...

A little all over the place, like the Rose Print graphic tee (pass) to the leather strap boots (yes please).

The yellow check is fun and rose print jackets are nice, but $$$.

Very curious who their ideal customer is and why everything has to hae a logo on the outside?... I'm not, like, a quiet luxury kinda gal, but I don't love wearing logos on a standard knit sweater. :oh:

Glad they didn't raise the trench prices that much, like, what, "only" a $100 price increase for the Waterloo?
 
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I wouldn't mind one of the springbok 'sporran' bags, particularly in the mustard-yellow, (the Knight???). I just don't want to pay those prices for a non leather-goods specialist bag company. With, BV (Gucci and Hermes) I know they'll look after my bag in the future should it be needed. The 'bottom' (you can see it when open) is not really necessary either.

Reminds me of Vivienne Westwood more than Bailey

I am thinking seriously about getting a silver or gold-plated silver necklace with the horse clasp, but since I just had a 18K Cartier chain break on me recently after only a month of wearing (and Gucci's silver chains are not great either) I'm going to be looking at the quality carefully. What's with jewellery quality recently? I I have antique stuff for a 100 years ago that I never have a problem with.
Because it wasn’t industrially made :/
 
I wouldn't mind one of the springbok 'sporran' bags, particularly in the mustard-yellow, (the Knight???). I just don't want to pay those prices for a non leather-goods specialist bag company. With, BV (Gucci and Hermes) I know they'll look after my bag in the future should it be needed. The 'bottom' (you can see it when open) is not really necessary either.

Reminds me of Vivienne Westwood more than Bailey

I am thinking seriously about getting a silver or gold-plated silver necklace with the horse clasp, but since I just had a 18K Cartier chain break on me recently after only a month of wearing (and Gucci's silver chains are not great either) I'm going to be looking at the quality carefully. What's with jewellery quality recently? I I have antique stuff for a 100 years ago that I never have a problem with.
Is it made of springbok? The hairy goat textured one?

It makes me think of the gucci Jackie shape wise but I agree the bum makes it look a bit misshapen rather than it being obviously funny (I assume it’s meant to be funny.)
Why is it called the chess I wonder? I’d have gone with the peach

I agree that you want the aftercare guarantee there if they are paying like for like to Gucci. I see why they want to pivot to bags of course. Lots of bag obsessives out there :graucho:
 
Is it made of springbok? The hairy goat textured one?

It makes me think of the gucci Jackie shape wise but I agree the bum makes it look a bit misshapen rather than it being obviously funny (I assume it’s meant to be funny.)
Why is it called the chess I wonder? I’d have gone with the peach

I agree that you want the aftercare guarantee there if they are paying like for like to Gucci. I see why they want to pivot to bags of course. Lots of bag obsessives out there :graucho:

Yes, the hairy 'Peach' one :lol: . I have a Gucci Springbok jacket, I recognised the fur. It could be a goat, but the fur is usually much longer and thicker.

I think it's called the Chess because the Knight is another bag. All references to the Prorsum horse's head like the knight on a chess board.

I had a small Burberry check/brown leather duffle whilst at Uni, early '00s. I wore it every day and in everyday, including heavy books and laptop, literally till it fell apart. Prices have gone way up since. I don't mind paying full price for a trench or other outerwear (and have) but not that price for another bag (I don't need) :biggrin: . I love the colour though.
 
Having just seen the article about the etro bag I’m struck it’s funny 2 brands that are trying to move from their signature product into bags both chose horse detailing for their hardware ;)

I think I prefer the Pegasus to the cut up knight and horse but hey, I guess it’s an obvious chic animal and duck is actually already taken isn’t it?
Yes, the hairy 'Peach' one :lol: . I have a Gucci Springbok jacket, I recognised the fur. It could be a goat, but the fur is usually much longer and thicker.

I think it's called the Chess because the Knight is another bag. All references to the Prorsum horse's head like the knight on a chess board.

I had a small Burberry check/brown leather duffle whilst at Uni, early '00s. I wore it every day and in everyday, including heavy books and laptop, literally till it fell apart. Prices have gone way up since. I don't mind paying full price for a trench or other outerwear (and have) but not that price for another bag (I don't need) :biggrin: . I love the colour though.
It’s ridiculous to me, and this is luxury websites in general, that an educated buyer can tell me more about the bag than the brand itself. It just says goat leather, no provenance, no details.

I don’t need to read a big pitch about the springbok larking in a sylvan glade but it’d be nice to see a bit of interest the materials. I think a lot of people find the Hermes leather and tanneries talk interesting and a bit of traceability might reduce this giant luxury sausage machine feel I get at times.
 
Having just seen the article about the etro bag I’m struck it’s funny 2 brands that are trying to move from their signature product into bags both chose horse detailing for their hardware ;)

I think I prefer the Pegasus to the cut up knight and horse but hey, I guess it’s an obvious chic animal and duck is actually already taken isn’t it?

It’s ridiculous to me, and this is luxury websites in general, that an educated buyer can tell me more about the bag than the brand itself. It just says goat leather, no provenance, no details.

I don’t need to read a big pitch about the springbok larking in a sylvan glade but it’d be nice to see a bit of interest the materials. I think a lot of people find the Hermes leather and tanneries talk interesting and a bit of traceability might reduce this giant luxury sausage machine feel I get at times.

I am totally with you. It's so patronising to play to the cheap seats and lowest common denominator. Luxury customers love all the details of their product(s)

For the most part, I think the generic (and/or wrong) descriptions are because a) Burberry (and other lux brands that create extensions nothing to do with their core business) get those products made for them (also explains lack of aftercare). Workers on the website creating descriptions only get pics not products and none of the finer details. A goat is a goat, a springbok is an antelope. Antelope suede and fur is much finer - and will need more looking after, b) because they may not think a B client will know what a springbok is.

To be fair, the Pegasus logo has always been Etro's (F.1968). They made couture textiles for the couture houses before they created a RTW business and have used the winged horse on packaging and labels extensively for a long time, the paisley only since 1981. Burberry has close ties to the military (officer class) and Prorsum means advance or forward, and the knight has been used since 1901, and trademarked 1909. Much longer than the Burberry check that they forgot to trademark and left them open to huge-scale copies that tarnished the brand without any recourse until 2020. Hermes using pegasus was a later permutation of the greek god and legend, their horses were nearly always equestrian until recently, and Guccio Gucci famous art deco bell boy logo was changed into a shopping knight by his son Aldo in the 1950s (when the founder died) and they wanted to create an aristocratic, horsey history for the brand instead of the 'rags-to-riches' story, never mind the horse-bits for shoes, Gucci was never a saddler.

Burberry have been making leather goods throughout their entire history, and I have an inherited 1960s duffle bag with shoe compartment to prove it. But these were 'Made in England' maybe even in the old factories in Chatham Place E9. Almost the entire street was Burberry factories, now long since mostly sold-off and turned into retail. Now Burberry outsource their leather-goods, and having seen them at dept stores they look OK, but they are an add-on for the brand and treated as such.

I know the prices have gone crazy across luxury, but if Burberry want (a lot of) my money, then they need to deliver some old world luxury along with their tales of yore and heritage prints. Give me some old fashioned service, including detailed description of what my £2K + money is buying, aftercare, and a well trained staff-force. Live up to your Latin motto Prorsum!
 
I am totally with you. It's so patronising to play to the cheap seats and lowest common denominator. Luxury customers love all the details of their product(s)

For the most part, I think the generic (and/or wrong) descriptions are because a) Burberry (and other lux brands that create extensions nothing to do with their core business) get those products made for them (also explains lack of aftercare). Workers on the website creating descriptions only get pics not products and none of the finer details. A goat is a goat, a springbok is an antelope. Antelope suede and fur is much finer - and will need more looking after, b) because they may not think a B client will know what a springbok is.

To be fair, the Pegasus logo has always been Etro's (F.1968). They made couture textiles for the couture houses before they created a RTW business and have used the winged horse on packaging and labels extensively for a long time, the paisley only since 1981. Burberry has close ties to the military (officer class) and Prorsum means advance or forward, and the knight has been used since 1901, and trademarked 1909. Much longer than the Burberry check that they forgot to trademark and left them open to huge-scale copies that tarnished the brand without any recourse until 2020. Hermes using pegasus was a later permutation of the greek god and legend, their horses were nearly always equestrian until recently, and Guccio Gucci famous art deco bell boy logo was changed into a shopping knight by his son Aldo in the 1950s (when the founder died) and they wanted to create an aristocratic, horsey history for the brand instead of the 'rags-to-riches' story, never mind the horse-bits for shoes, Gucci was never a saddler.

Burberry have been making leather goods throughout their entire history, and I have an inherited 1960s duffle bag with shoe compartment to prove it. But these were 'Made in England' maybe even in the old factories in Chatham Place E9. Almost the entire street was Burberry factories, now long since mostly sold-off and turned into retail. Now Burberry outsource their leather-goods, and having seen them at dept stores they look OK, but they are an add-on for the brand and treated as such.

I know the prices have gone crazy across luxury, but if Burberry want (a lot of) my money, then they need to deliver some old world luxury along with their tales of yore and heritage prints. Give me some old fashioned service, including detailed description of what my £2K + money is buying, aftercare, and a well trained staff-force. Live up to your Latin motto Prorsum!
Honestly they need to inject more saville row made in England and less made in Italy… something to actually differentiate themselves from the “luxury”mass.

That and their tailoring seems to have taken a huge nose dive since Tisci left which is odd given the British heritage.
 
Honestly they need to inject more saville row made in England and less made in Italy… something to actually differentiate themselves from the “luxury”mass.

That and their tailoring seems to have taken a huge nose dive since Tisci left which is odd given the British heritage.

Agreed, tailoring is one thing Burberry should do well. Then again they're going after the money and tailoring doesn't have the easy high markups