Reference: Guide to Hermes Scarves

[Jahna]

Nice word, "jacquardy"!

I am glad you had the name for "Cadrans Anciens". It is an odd design and I would love to know the story of it. From the pictures I could not figure out an overall theme, except that all the clocks seem to be set at 1:30? Very curious as to the meaning of this scarf. "Cadrans" translates to dials (in my basic translation app) but there has to be more to the story...

 

[argone]

Cadrans Anciens, 1948, Hugo Grygkar

Thank you very much for your answer.

 

[brage9]

Dear everyone,
Have any of you any knowledge of attached scarf? I have tried to search the net and available sources without any result,
Thank you and best regards,

 

[Jahna]

This might help:

http://www.leboncoin.fr/accessoires_bagagerie/214513537.htm?ca=18_s

 

[Jahna]

Well, that was a big help!! I guess that is the one about which you are inquiring...

 

[brage9]

Thank you, but yes, it seems like this scarf is quite new and therefore it seems odd I cannot find any information about it.

best regards,
Lena

 

[Jahna]

Aha! That is a submarine in the center. There is a class of nuclear sub called "Redoutable" and one is in Cherbourg:

http://www.waymarking.com/waymarks/WM6YG1_Le_Redoutable_Cherbourg_Normandie_France

http://www.citedelamer.com/fr/decouvrez-la-cite-de-la-mer/le-redoutable-une-visite-dexception/default.asp

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redoutable_class_submarine_(1931)

...so maybe a commemorative scarf from the opening of that museum?

 

[Jahna]

Here's some more about the sub (it's not a "class" but a particular sub-I am sort of a submarine freak...):

http://www.modelwarships.com/reviews/ships/fr/redoubtable-700-okb/okb-review.html

 

[brage9]

Wow Jahna, you are amazing and could be right re. the submarine trace, i guess further investigastion is necessary!
br
Lena

 

[Jahna]

...and the only other help I might have is that Joachim Metz may have been the designer; he does so many "transpotation" scarves, and I believe there was a submarine commander? by the name of J. Metz...

...off to save my "black-spotted" roses. I'll check back later...

 

[sdsurfchick]

Dear everyone,
Have any of you any knowledge of attached scarf? I have tried to search the net and available sources without any result,
Thank you and best regards,

I have this as Le Foudroyant by Pierre Peron (don't know the year); no idea if that's correct. What an odd design ... part Vue du Carosse, Scarabee and Marine a Rames, with a submarine in the middle.

 

[brage9]

Thank you Ladies!

That solves one mystery and yes the design is very strange. I have seen so many designs lately that at least I have never seen before. Last night I saw this one on German e-bay. It looks like jacquard. I did not bid but are still wondering what this is;
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250845292721&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

Have any of you any knowledge of this scarf?
Thank you and best regards,

 

[Jahna]

:I just saw this referenced somewhere...I think it is one of those "riding school" scarves, but haven't a clue about it. Since sdsurfchick is NOT on vacation like she is supposed to be she will probably have the answer...

If I can find where I saw it I will let you know!

 

[brage9]

Thank you Jahna,

I also Wonder if any of you lovely Ladies can answer wether there are any known Hermes scarves pre 1937 except the Anglers Companion?

Thank you!

 

[Jahna]

Lena, you are impressive that you know that! I have no idea about the first scarves so I will be interested to find out...