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I kindly request that all members participating in the MM and Harry thread dial back the vile rhetoric.

I am not opposed to discussing public personas on TPF, including the constant torrent of news surrounding the couple from this thread. But I find it troubling when their looks are being nitpicked apart to a degree that is just not appropriate.

This thread has drawn criticism over the years, and I discussed it at great length with Megs and the mods. I am not looking to close it down, but the vitriol needs to be dialed back.

My personal feelings about hate threads aside, this ultra-negative vibe is something better suited for other forums, Reddit, or elsewhere. I am holding our community to higher standards.

Thanks for reading.
 
ITA, gotta look at the real figures, these people are like con-artists, one grain of truth turns into a whole beach.

When it comes to their own cash (and Archewell is their own cash-cow) they spread their butter very thinly
Very thinly. 3 million dollars is nothing in the world of giving. If they really had 13 they should have given away at least half of it.
 
Most of the time I do think she was pregnant, her bump just wasn’t large enough to suit her. She wanted the world to treat her extra special because she was carrying a royal child. It’s a variant on my child will be the best looking, smartest and bestest child that ever was. She needed that fake bump to support the image.

As far as the weird nose at Mayhew is concerned, if any of those folks heard or noticed it, they probably though it was a pregnant woman passing gas.
 
In theory a lot of the royalties from Spare should be going to charity. We won’t be holding our breath waiting for that though.

With his advance they'll be no royalties (no pun intended).

Random House have to recoup their advance first before there are royalties, and they won't (recoup - unless they own film, TV and/or other media). They had to practically had to give those books away. It's turned into a vanity project for them.
 
What Archewell do/contribute to is as clear as mud.
People would be far better just giving their money to whichever causes that are dear to them.
I never quite understood why this Archewell thing exists at all.
I seems its only object is to help the Sussex family and hardly anybody else.
Does the world need such an organization?
 
I never quite understood why this Archewell thing exists at all.
I seems its only object is to help the Sussex family and hardly anybody else.
Does the world need such an organization?

Sounds like you also "understood why this Archewell thing exists"

The world doesn't need it, but, in Harry's head: Everyone has their own charity
 
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Raymond J. de Souza: Could drug-addled Harry's tome be the most boring book of the year?
Opinion by Father Raymond J. de Souza • Saturday

Spare is a slog.

Prince Harry is very famous, but his life is not very interesting. His ideas less so. Yet, having written about the Duke and Duchess of Sussex, I felt professionally obligated to read, as the Sussexes would put it, “their truth.”

The reviews have not been kind. The BBC reviewer was dismissive, calling it the “ longest angry drunk text ever sent .” Other reviews were savage, ridiculing Harry for thinking that his dead mother sends him messages in the form of animals .

Tedium sets in quickly. On almost every page there is someone being mean to Harry. No slight is too trivial to be remembered, resented, recorded and written down. At one point, even the Imperial State Crown, despite its evident elegance, torments Harry. It’s caged up in the Tower of London, not free as ordinary crowns are to wander the bright sunlit uplands, a metaphor for Harry’s lot in life.
Comedy can relieve the boredom. Jokes about his accounts of the frostbitten family jewels — not the ones in the Tower — almost write themselves: Harry demanded privacy so that he could publicly describe his private parts …
“At all costs, I avoided sitting quietly with a book,” he writes about his teenage years, instead “memorizing long passages of Ace Ventura .” Later, after meeting Meghan, who mentions a book that she is reading, he explains, at age 32: “Sorry. Not really big on books.”
That someone who doesn’t read would have the fastest-selling book in history is simply hilarious.
I invented a game to pass the time, trying to identify what words or phrasings could not possibly have come from Harry, but were invented out of whole cloth by the ghostwriter, J.R. Moehringer. “Vertiginous”? Harry was a pilot, though, so perhaps. In any case, Harry recorded the audio book, which means he had to learn how to pronounce even the words he didn’t know.
As the tome dragged on, I suspected that Moehringer had written the entire book in a sort of code, undermining Harry even as it gave vent to his whingeing, with the ghost knowing that the principal was too daft to see through the draft. Moehringer littered the text with obvious mistakes , easily fact-checked.
For example, as anyone who has visited King’s College, Cambridge — or looked it up on Wikipedia — ought to know, there is no direct line of descendants from King Henry VI. So when Moehringer has Harry saying that Eton was founded by his “great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandfather,” he is revealing him as ignorant of basic royal history. Not even Henry VIII was a direct descendant of Henry VI, and Henry VIII’s line ran out with Elizabeth I.
Why repeatedly undermine Harry in his own “auto”-biography? It’s as if Moehringer wants to caution us against accepting anything Harry says as true.
Constant, unremitting drug use — cannabis, cocaine, psychedelics — marked Harry’s life from his teens onward. Settling in to his new home in Montecito in 2020, Harry lights up a joint. So when Moehringer includes Harry’s doubts about his own memory, is he warning us that at many points, Harry was too drunk or too high to be a reliable witness?


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I am one of those who think that MM has been pregnant but that she wore a fake baby bump as an add on to confuse when her due date was, maybe make people think she was further along than she was or to just get more attention if she wasn't showing that much. I think she and Harry are that obsessed with themselves and their press coverage that they would want to jealously guard the due date as if it were some important national secret.
I’m still thinking it was a surrogate both times. I know it is outrageous but ask yourself this, is the deception it would require beyond what Meghan and Harry have already accomplished in other areas? In many ways it was easier because procreation issues are considered private and BP would never dream of addressing it. It was even easier with Invisibet. Out of sight, out of mind.

Maybe I’m wrong and that’s fine. (But I don’t think I am. :biggrin:)
 
There is no shortage of links to post with the new ArchW's report. Twitter is on fire! :amazed::amazed::amazed:
DM will have a blast tomorrow.



Re: "H&M CALLED FOR CITIZENS To donate! They didn’t use their own money or Archewell money but are taking the credit per usual."

I hate to keep harping on Oprah - but back when she had her Angel network, she also relied on gazillions in pledges and the Angel network took all the credit. Oprah's Angel network.

Why did Oprah get away with it ? (Except for me.) People are mentioning Meg and Harry doing the exact same thing.

I don't apporve of either of course.
 
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