Whoa, those are both really obvious fakes! The heat stamp totally has the wrong font. That is really bad.
Portero & Fake Louis Vuitton
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Hi, I'm a bit confused by the names Bella Bag/Bella Bags. I sent a message to Malleries a week ago and they compared the Portero listing with their BellaBag listing. In the end they just said Portero sell their own bags (they have them physically) as well as outside consignment stores like Bella Bag.
Aw. thank you for your kind words.
I cannot take credit for this, it's tPF team effort including yourself. 
Bottom line is, please get items authenticated no matter who the reseller is.
Now I'm confused, Bella Bag in Malleries is shop.bella.bag on ebay, correct? (they have to be the same person as watermarks are similar not to mention Bella in both names)
And Portero consigns for Bella? If that's the case not sure why the rep denies any affiliation with Bella.
The only difference in the Portero pics was the lack of watermark (compared to Malleries and shopbellabag.com), they were identical otherwise. Here's the complete Malleries message:
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Hello xxxxx,
Thank you for writing. Portero implies that the bags listed on their site
are in their possession. This is not the case. Portero allows sellers to
list on their website but under the Portero name. The site is made up of
many sellers.
I hope this helps
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So sellers just list their bag under the Portero name?? Including Bella Bag? Meaning sellers that may have a less than good reputation may be able to sell their fraudulent items under the Portero (which has a good reputation and even a link from Purseforum) and everyone is non the wiser???
So sellers just list their bag under the Portero name?? Including Bella Bag? Meaning sellers that may have a less than good reputation may be able to sell their fraudulent items under the Portero (which has a good reputation and even a link from Purseforum) and everyone is non the wiser???
I have to take my word back, not all LV listings looked like Bella Bag, I've clicked on a few more and they're different. Sorry about that, their site is taking me ages to load.
I didn't see where Portero stated items are in their possession but I just found out that Portero is actually a consignor http://www2.portero.com/how-to-sell like fashionphile but allows seller to use their own pics, I guess Bella Bag listed her stuff on their site.
These guys need to be more vigilant, all these fakes are not doing good for their reputation.
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If you passed their test, you can list your own item. Check"how to sell" link I posted above.
Wow! So much has happened since I went to sleep last night.
Its shocking that they would lie! I'm wondering what else they could be lying / hiding :?
Its shocking that they would lie! I'm wondering what else they could be lying / hiding :?
He most definitely lied!
I just saw this on Portero, http://www.portero.com/index.php/catalog/product/view/id/219748/s/louis-vuitton-brown-leather-motard-biker-rare-limited-edition-runway-bag/?utm_source=2261907&utm_term=10706957
Look at the last sentence of the listing,
"This is an authentic LOUIS VUITTON Motard Biker Rare Limited Edition Runway Bag. Done in a stunning monogram stitched brown leather, this bag features gold hardware and accents, black leather trim, and two rolled handles. The interior is done in a coordinating black textile with leather trim and is separated into three sections. The middle section has a clasp closure for secure storage while the other two sections close with snaps. This bag is a rare find. Don't miss out on this amazing exclusive Bella Bag price!"
I think that it is horrible that they are not acknowledging their sellers.
I just saw this on Portero, http://www.portero.com/index.php/catalog/product/view/id/219748/s/louis-vuitton-brown-leather-motard-biker-rare-limited-edition-runway-bag/?utm_source=2261907&utm_term=10706957
Look at the last sentence of the listing,
"This is an authentic LOUIS VUITTON Motard Biker Rare Limited Edition Runway Bag. Done in a stunning monogram stitched brown leather, this bag features gold hardware and accents, black leather trim, and two rolled handles. The interior is done in a coordinating black textile with leather trim and is separated into three sections. The middle section has a clasp closure for secure storage while the other two sections close with snaps. This bag is a rare find. Don't miss out on this amazing exclusive Bella Bag price!"
I think that it is horrible that they are not acknowledging their sellers.
Mortifying that is it still on their site as sold.
Has anyone else had any luck contacting them??
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Has anyone else had any luck contacting them??
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Mortifying that is it still on their site as sold.
Has anyone else had any luck contacting them??
I don't know that anyone else has tried. I'll never buy from them again though now that their representative literally lied to me. I'm glad I printed my chat log. I still can't get past the Bella bag thing. Yuck. Now I think they have been turning a blind eye to counterfeits all along. Bella Bags is well known and not in a good way. They had to know. Then they literally lied about a relationship they were well aware of that was longstanding, and advertised, with Bella Bags, and listed the $1,300 fake as "sold."
I almost wish someone had bought that bag and then sued them, and also got state DAs and federal authorities involved. As a paralegal, and officer of the court, I truly would love to see them explaining the sale of counterfeits and fraud in a court of law. And ignorance, which it clearly was not, isn't a defense in any court in this country. I would love to see them prosecuted. It's a violation of both state and federal laws and rises to the level of felony. If I had the money, I'd watch for the next counterfeit, purchase, and go after them myself. On a civil level, they could look at treble damages. That doesn't even begin to touch criminal charges which could be levied, prosecution. Fines and possible jail time depending on the scope and level of criminal activity.
I wonder how many poor people have bought counterfeit bags , jewelry, watches, etc from them based on their reputation and have been swindled and don't know it. This is even worse than fashionphile, which is horrible enough. People buy extremely high dollar items from this company. I'm really really horrified. I wish there was a way to contact ALL past customers to get their Rolexes, handbags, jewelry , antique items, anything they've purchased and have them thoroughly authenticated for counterfeits. I don't even want to think what the scope of this may be. My heart literally aches for the people who may have been taken.
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Portero is a selling emporium, just like Malleries. I think I've seen bags from AFF on Portero too.
Bella Bag(s) sells at their own website (www.shopbellabag.com, Malleries, Portero, and eBay. I don't know if they're on Bonanza.
I have personally seen quite a few fakes on their website and urge anyone I know to just stay away from them. Frankly, anyone that still uses the My Poupette logo is on my suspicious list. That organization's issues with taking money and not delivering on authentications or issuing blatantly incompetent proclamations is well publicized, here and elsewhere on the Internet.
Bella Bag(s) sells at their own website (www.shopbellabag.com, Malleries, Portero, and eBay. I don't know if they're on Bonanza.
I have personally seen quite a few fakes on their website and urge anyone I know to just stay away from them. Frankly, anyone that still uses the My Poupette logo is on my suspicious list. That organization's issues with taking money and not delivering on authentications or issuing blatantly incompetent proclamations is well publicized, here and elsewhere on the Internet.
Dear PurseForum Members,
Thank you for notifying us regarding this specific Louis Vuitton item. We have removed the listing while we investigate the situation.
If there is ever an issue with the authenticity of an item sold on our site, we will indeed refund the customer and attempt to find the authentic product they had originally planned on purchasing.
Portero does work with authentic third party vendors that we personally select through a careful due diligence process. If a customer finds the same item on another site for less, we will provide the customer with the safety of purchasing through our site and match the lower price of the item.
We will update everyone shortly regarding this item.
Sincerely,
Susan Engel, CEO, Portero Luxury
Thank you for notifying us regarding this specific Louis Vuitton item. We have removed the listing while we investigate the situation.
If there is ever an issue with the authenticity of an item sold on our site, we will indeed refund the customer and attempt to find the authentic product they had originally planned on purchasing.
Portero does work with authentic third party vendors that we personally select through a careful due diligence process. If a customer finds the same item on another site for less, we will provide the customer with the safety of purchasing through our site and match the lower price of the item.
We will update everyone shortly regarding this item.
Sincerely,
Susan Engel, CEO, Portero Luxury
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