This is a great forum. As I read through the posts (that a few, by the way, felt like I was the only man at a Ladies Luncheon!) I see not only the knowledge of this coveted design house, but you all SPECIFICALLY know WHO ELSE will know the answer about something. Very impressive indeed, ladies. Now....am I to understand a special ordered bag takes TWO years? Well then, I guess this Christmas is out the window for this specific bag. Though LILACH, you said that this ROUGE H is a brick red in ostrich? I am not sure that is what she had in mind, as she has this color in a bag, and it is more like a burgundy red. Will somehow have to check on this. Looking at the list of what is "currently available", any recommendations? The colors she now has in Hermes bags are white, black, brown (2), orange(2), purple, red, blue and tan. (As far as I can remember. I do not venture into her closet. Ever. So who knows what may be hiding in there.) Again, thanks to all....there is no one else to ask about this. Actually, I have a friend overseas whose wife is also a very big Hermes collector. But if I were to try to engage her in this quest, my friend would then think me THE ENEMY!