Please help identify leather, color and design

[Vlad]

As requested, this thread is now the official Help I.D. Hermes leather, color and design thread. Cheers!



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[cakeymakeybakey]

Does anyone know what type of leather and the color this bag is? It's a vintage kelly 35 toile. Please let me know if more photos are needed. Thank you!! View attachment 5390303View attachment 5390304View attachment 5390305

Do you know the year of the bag? If it's pre-2003, it could be Courchevel or perhaps Veau Grain Lisse. Both are embossed leathers that were used prior to the introduction of Epsom.

 

[maxroxxherhandbags]

If I'm reading the blind stamp correctly, it's a K in a square, so 2007. It looks well-loved for a 15-year-old bag; can't be Ardennes as they discontinued that in 2004, so possibly Vache Liegée or a well-worn Togo? Best of luck with this.

my reply got deleted because I went off on a tangent.
In brief I decided against pulling the trigger on the bag for various reasons.
Thank you for your help

 

[nostalgists]

Can anyone identify the color and leather of this Kelly? Pc: elsa Hosk on instagram

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Hey sorry I just wanted to re-Ask about this bag to see if anyone could help identify the color? I’ve been trying to search myself but could really use anyone expertise!

 

[gracie05]

Hey sorry I just wanted to re-Ask about this bag to see if anyone could help identify the color? I’ve been trying to search myself but could really use anyone expertise!

It’s hard to identify the exact color since colors can vary so much with lighting. Also, it would depend on the year the bag was made, since most colors are seasonal and are not made every year. I’d recommend starting with this website (scroll down to the greens) and check out colors like vert bengale, cactus, malachite and vert vertigo to see possibilities

 

[dosageusage]

Hey sorry I just wanted to re-Ask about this bag to see if anyone could help identify the color? I’ve been trying to search myself but could really use anyone expertise!

Hard to tell with the lighting, but to me, it looks like Vert Anglais.

 

[Possum]

Hey sorry I just wanted to re-Ask about this bag to see if anyone could help identify the color? I’ve been trying to search myself but could really use anyone expertise!

Sorry I'm not an expert at all, but it seems to be the older style Kelly where the strap attaches directly to the handle rings. For this reason I would like to throw 'Vert Clair' into the ring. In that lighting it does look like 'Vert Anglias' as @dosageusage suggests also.

 

[DA Club]

Hi! I just bought this bag on Fashionphile and it’s listed as Etain but the color looks so much like a graphite Birkin I bought circa 2008/09 (that I later sold, big regret). It’s an N stamp from 2010 and I thought Etain didn’t get released until 2011?

I know the colors may be off due to their studio lighting and I’ll have a better idea of the color once it arrives but thought I would ask for opinions here. Here’s the listing: https://www.fashionphile.com/p/hermes-taurillon-clemence-birkin-30-etain-996022

Thanks so much!

 

[nicole0612]

Hi! I just bought this bag on Fashionphile and it’s listed as Etain but the color looks so much like a graphite Birkin I bought circa 2008/09 (that I later sold, big regret). It’s an N stamp from 2010 and I thought Etain didn’t get released until 2011?

I know the colors may be off due to their studio lighting and I’ll have a better idea of the color once it arrives but thought I would ask for opinions here. Here’s the listing: https://www.fashionphile.com/p/hermes-taurillon-clemence-birkin-30-etain-996022

Thanks so much!
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I thought graphite when I first saw your photo as well, as I also have a graphite Birkin, but I don’t think it is. My Graphite B has lighter contrast stitching and this bag does not, so maybe it is Etain with studio lighting.

 

[cakeymakeybakey]

Hi! I just bought this bag on Fashionphile and it’s listed as Etain but the color looks so much like a graphite Birkin I bought circa 2008/09 (that I later sold, big regret). It’s an N stamp from 2010 and I thought Etain didn’t get released until 2011?

I know the colors may be off due to their studio lighting and I’ll have a better idea of the color once it arrives but thought I would ask for opinions here. Here’s the listing: https://www.fashionphile.com/p/hermes-taurillon-clemence-birkin-30-etain-996022

Thanks so much!
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I would also have thought Graphite, as it's too dark for Gris Asphalte. Here is my P stamp Evelyne in Etain Clemence bought in boutique in September of 2012. First pic is bright overcast daylight, second is dim light no flash. I could not re-create their studio lighting conditions, but even in my dim light the tone is off from that of your Birkin. I have heard that later iterations of Etain are darker and less warm than the early years, but I've not heard of an early year Etain being quite so dark and cool verging on off-black.

 

[cakeymakeybakey]

Here is a Birkin 35 they list as Graphite:

HERMES Togo Birkin 35 Graphite | FASHIONPHILE

This is an authentic HERMES Togo Birkin 35 in Graphite. This iconic handbag is finely crafted of grained calfskin leather in grey. The bag features rolled leather top handles, a leather belt and polished silver hardware, including a turn lock, a padlock and a hanging clochette with keys. The...

www.fashionphile.com

See how the tone is slightly cooler than the bag you bought? Maybe yours *is* Etain and the lighting is just confusing us.

 

[DA Club]

I thought graphite when I first saw your photo as well, as I also have a graphite Birkin, but I don’t think it is. My Graphite B has lighter contrast stitching and this bag does not, so maybe it is Etain with studio lighting.

Good point! I remember my old Graphite had contrast stitching too!

I would also have thought Graphite, as it's too dark for Gris Asphalte. Here is my P stamp Evelyne in Etain Clemence bought in boutique in September of 2012. First pic is bright overcast daylight, second is dim light no flash. I could not re-create their studio lighting conditions, but even in my dim light the tone is off from that of your Birkin. I have heard that later iterations of Etain are darker and less warm than the early years, but I've not heard of an early year Etain being quite so dark and cool verging on off-black.

Thanks for taking the time to take pics! Your Evelyne is gorgeous. The bag will arrive tomorrow so I guess we’ll see if it’s truly Etain. I’m just so curious about the N stamp cause everything I’ve read is that 2011 was the first year of Etain, not 2010

Here is a Birkin 35 they list as Graphite:

HERMES Togo Birkin 35 Graphite | FASHIONPHILE

This is an authentic HERMES Togo Birkin 35 in Graphite. This iconic handbag is finely crafted of grained calfskin leather in grey. The bag features rolled leather top handles, a leather belt and polished silver hardware, including a turn lock, a padlock and a hanging clochette with keys. The...

www.fashionphile.com

See how the tone is slightly cooler than the bag you bought? Maybe yours *is* Etain and the lighting is just confusing us.

True, this older Graphite is a cooler tone

 

[this_is_rj]

Hi! I just bought this bag on Fashionphile and it’s listed as Etain but the color looks so much like a graphite Birkin I bought circa 2008/09 (that I later sold, big regret). It’s an N stamp from 2010 and I thought Etain didn’t get released until 2011?

I know the colors may be off due to their studio lighting and I’ll have a better idea of the color once it arrives but thought I would ask for opinions here. Here’s the listing: https://www.fashionphile.com/p/hermes-taurillon-clemence-birkin-30-etain-996022

Thanks so much!
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I don't think it is etain as older etain bags had a brown resin, this bag has black resin.

 

[DA Club]

My bag got delivered! I am so confused on the color and I thought I knew Hermes colors well! I have an email into Fashionphile too cause I’m almost positive this is not Etain and I pointed out that Etain was not out yet during the N stamp.

Here’s some pics in natural light and artificial light and compared to my Kelly in Etoupe swift. It’s almost the exact color of my wood floors! These pics are all unfiltered. Can anyone ID this color?

 

[acrowcounted]

My bag got delivered! I am so confused on the color and I thought I knew Hermes colors well! I have an email into Fashionphile too cause I’m almost positive this is not Etain and I pointed out that Etain was not out yet during the N stamp.

Here’s some pics in natural light and artificial light and compared to my Kelly in Etoupe swift. It’s almost the exact color of my wood floors! These pics are all unfiltered. Can anyone ID this color?

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Ebene?

 

[nicole0612]

My bag got delivered! I am so confused on the color and I thought I knew Hermes colors well! I have an email into Fashionphile too cause I’m almost positive this is not Etain and I pointed out that Etain was not out yet during the N stamp.

Here’s some pics in natural light and artificial light and compared to my Kelly in Etoupe swift. It’s almost the exact color of my wood floors! These pics are all unfiltered. Can anyone ID this color?

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Maybe it is graphite after all! In the first photo it does look like it has lighter contrast stitching. Here is mine for reference.