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What a gorgeous bag! It's so hard to tell from photos; most of your pictures show the bag looking like Barenia, but this one looks more like Vache Natural:

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Here's my Whitebus 30 in VN:

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That being said, Barenia and VN are very different leathers.

"Vache Natural is a cowhide and is very stiff and thick and will be very pale when brand new. It will age to a honey patina in much the same was as LV Vachetta trim on their monogram bags, which can take many years. This skin will be more structured and will retain a rigid shape virtually forever. Barenia is a calfskin and is very soft and flexible and starts out much darker, even when new. Barenia gains its patina much sooner than Vache Naturel and has a much more luxurious hand. Barenia is a classic saddle calfskin."

VN is vegetable tanned and Barenia is oil tanned, hence the difference in patina color when new.

This thread has a helpful discussion of the differences in leathers: https://forum.purseblog.com/threads/vache-natural-vs-barenia.484435/

Good luck! Whatever you discover, you have found yourself a real beauty! :love:
 
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Does anyone have any idea what leather this bag may be in?
And the colour?
I thought maybe Havanne ?
But I cant work out leather..seller said it may be Barenia but I know it isn't due to foil stamp..
Perhaps Gulliver?
Any suggestions gratefully received.
 
Does anyone know what color this Birkin wore by Christine Quinn from Selling Sunset is?

To me, it looks like Bleu Lagon, but I'm not totally sure.

Thanks, everyone
 

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Does anyone have any idea what leather this bag may be in?
And the colour?
I thought maybe Havanne ?
But I cant work out leather..seller said it may be Barenia but I know it isn't due to foil stamp..
Perhaps Gulliver?
Any suggestions gratefully received.
Looks a bit like Ardennes. My Sorbonne has a similar flattish grain. I was also thinking Havanne or maybe Marron Indie or Noisette. Could it also be Vache Liegée? Don't think it's Gulliver, which has a much finer grain than this.

For reference, here is a Gulliver Birkin in Havanne. I am lusting after this bag... :love:
 
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Looks a bit like Ardennes. My Sorbonne has a similar flattish grain. I was also thinking Havanne or maybe Marron Indie or Noisette. Could it also be Vache Liegée? Don't think it's Gulliver, which has a much finer grain than this.

For reference, here is a Gulliver Birkin in Havanne. I am lusting after this bag... :love:
Thank you!
I did wonder about Ardennes but from memory an Ardennes bag I saw IRL didn't look like this..but of course just like our skin every skin of natural leather has slight variations.
I did also think the colour could be Marron Indie....
Ugh so hard to pull the trigger when not seeing something in the flesh!
Btw the Birkin you linked to is indeed a beauty-I really hope you end up with it in your collection
And thank you so much for responding.
 
Looks a bit like Ardennes. My Sorbonne has a similar flattish grain. I was also thinking Havanne or maybe Marron Indie or Noisette. Could it also be Vache Liegée? Don't think it's Gulliver, which has a much finer grain than this.

For reference, here is a Gulliver Birkin in Havanne. I am lusting after this bag... :love:
@maxroxxherhandbags, I don’t think it’s vache liegee (Or at least it doesn’t look like my vache liegee which seems to be more uniformly textured) Agree with @cakeymakeybakey that gulliver/swift are smoother and finer grained, and that it could be Ardennes. Perhaps ask docride in her Lazarus thread?

re color, I think ebene or marron fonce but IDK :smile:
 
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Thank you!
I did wonder about Ardennes but from memory an Ardennes bag I saw IRL didn't look like this..but of course just like our skin every skin of natural leather has slight variations.
I did also think the colour could be Marron Indie....
Ugh so hard to pull the trigger when not seeing something in the flesh!
Btw the Birkin you linked to is indeed a beauty-I really hope you end up with it in your collection
And thank you so much for responding.
If I'm reading the blind stamp correctly, it's a K in a square, so 2007. It looks well-loved for a 15-year-old bag; can't be Ardennes as they discontinued that in 2004, so possibly Vache Liegée or a well-worn Togo? Best of luck with this.
 
@maxroxxherhandbags, I don’t think it’s vache liegee. Agree with @cakeymakeybakey that gulliver/swift are smoother and finer grained, and that it could be Ardennes. Perhaps ask docride in her Lazarus thread?

re color, I think ebene or marron fonce but IDK :smile:
Yes, I would check with Doc on the re-beautification of this bag and opinions on leather. :tup:
 
Thank you!
I did wonder about Ardennes but from memory an Ardennes bag I saw IRL didn't look like this..but of course just like our skin every skin of natural leather has slight variations.
I did also think the colour could be Marron Indie....
Ugh so hard to pull the trigger when not seeing something in the flesh!
Btw the Birkin you linked to is indeed a beauty-I really hope you end up with it in your collection
And thank you so much for responding.
And just for reference, here is my 1993 Ardennes Sorbonne. See how the grain is kind of flat, like a smoothed out Togo:

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