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Hi! The Gardenia I liked the most was Private Collection Tuberose Gardenia. I bought it many years ago, and I really loved it. I then switched to Carnal Flower, so I stopped buying Tuberose Gardenia.

However, I purchased a bottle about one year ago, and it smelled very harsh and synthetic to me. I'm not sure if they changed the formula, or if I remembered the original scent incorrectly.

The other gardenias I tried that were nice, but still a bit too complex were Chanel Gardenia and Gucci Flora.
In my searches for a single note fragrance, I also found one calle Kai, a pure gardenia oil. I found it a bit sharp though.

I have not tried Soliflore Gardenia by Dame Perfumery. I just went to the website, and it sounds wonderful. It's sold out, so that's a good sign!

I will try and find it elsewhere to try. Thank you!
Hello! My bottle of Private Collection Tuberose Gardenia is several years old, and I haven't smelled a recent version so I am not sure if they've changed the formula a bit. I hope they haven't altered it. Sometimes a fresh bottle of perfume needs a few months to sit for a bit and settle down, so I would set it aside and try it again in a few months, but it definitely should not smell harsh or synthetic at any point.

I recall that Dame Perfumery used to sell samples. I don't know if they still do it, but I would recommend buying some samples to test their gardenia perfume, while waiting for them to re-stock. It's a good sign that it's sold out. Perhaps they had a Black Friday sale recently. Samples are great because you can try them at home over a period of several days, which helps you to truly evaluate a fragrance, and decide if it's for you.
Wow... you certainly have a lot of perfume experience!

You and @880 both like Chanel Gardenia. I think I need to try it again.
How would you compare Chanel Gardenia, Tuberose Gardenia, and Dame Soliflore?

Since you have a great nose and also like gardenia, one scent I totally love is this!
I was reading about Jennifer Garner, and the article mentioned she totally loves this oil for the glow to her skin as well as the scent which is what prompted me to try it.

The fragrance is beautiful! I sometimes use this body oil in the summer, and I get asked often what I am wearing or people tell me I smell great. I even emailed Neutrogena and asked the what their fragrance is. Of course they said they do not publish their formulas. If this were made into a perfume, I would buy it!
Thank you for the kind words.:flowers: My nose is not the best, especially in winter when the cold air and heating seem to combine to blunt my sense of smell a little. I fare better in the warmer months when I can smell everything clearly. Regarding Chanel Gardenia, I only have the older versions in EDT and pure parfum. Chanel changed their exclusifs collection from EDT to EDP a few years ago. I have not tried their EDP (the current version) of Gardenia, but I would assume that they have not changed it drastically so it should still be somewhat close to the older versions.

Regarding comparing the three perfumes, I will post my preliminary thoughts now, based on my recollection, but since it has been a while since I wore them, I will also test them out during this week and post an update soon. I need to find my Soliflore Gardenia sample, which is somewhere in my sample box.

Gardenia and Tuberose are often used together in perfumes, but I find them to have different personalities. Tuberose is a distinctive white floral, sultry, a little bit carnal, rich, and really quite stunning. I have a handful of tuberose perfumes that I love, including Malle's Carnal Flower. Gardenia is softer than tuberose to my nose, creamy, lush and beautiful.

Of the three perfumes, I find Lauder's Tuberose Gardenia to have a higher presence of tuberose in it. I would say (based on recollection) that it has a fairly equal blend of both tuberose and gardenia and is a well-constructed beautiful floral fragrance. Soliflore Gardenia is more of a true gardenia with the creamy, nutty (for want of a better descriptive word) scent of gardenia flowers. Chanel Gardenia is really Chanel's interpretation of gardenia, an elegant, floral scent that is delicate, but at the same time quite complex. Tuberose does not play a prominent role in Chanel Gardenia (as it does in Lauder's gardenia). In fact, my nose does not pick up any tuberose in Chanel Gardenia. @880 has given a good description of Chanel Gardenia upthread. The vanilla in Chanel Gardenia is really not at all prominent to my nose. In the hands of master perfumers, notes like vanilla are handled with expertise, which results in imparting a delicate warmth and subtle nuances rather than an outright foody note -- at least I find that to be the case in Chanel Gardenia. My apologies for describing and comparing these perfumes based on memory (which can be faulty) rather than actually trying them on. I will do so in the next day or two and update.


Thank you for the Neutrogena oil recommendation. I've been loving body oils lately, so I will definitely be ordering it and am looking forward to trying it.
 
I used to love Neutogena's Rainbath, but it was discontinued. I was browsing on Amazon and they have a new Rainbath, will have to give that a shot.

Has anyone tried Tiare by Chantecaille? A friend recommended it, but I have yet to find a sample anywhere. If anyone comes across one, please let me know.
 
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Hello! My bottle of Private Collection Tuberose Gardenia is several years old, and I haven't smelled a recent version so I am not sure if they've changed the formula a bit. I hope they haven't altered it. Sometimes a fresh bottle of perfume needs a few months to sit for a bit and settle down, so I would set it aside and try it again in a few months, but it definitely should not smell harsh or synthetic at any point.

I recall that Dame Perfumery used to sell samples. I don't know if they still do it, but I would recommend buying some samples to test their gardenia perfume, while waiting for them to re-stock. It's a good sign that it's sold out. Perhaps they had a Black Friday sale recently. Samples are great because you can try them at home over a period of several days, which helps you to truly evaluate a fragrance, and decide if it's for you.

Thank you for the kind words.:flowers: My nose is not the best, especially in winter when the cold air and heating seem to combine to blunt my sense of smell a little. I fare better in the warmer months when I can smell everything clearly. Regarding Chanel Gardenia, I only have the older versions in EDT and pure parfum. Chanel changed their exclusifs collection from EDT to EDP a few years ago. I have not tried their EDP (the current version) of Gardenia, but I would assume that they have not changed it drastically so it should still be somewhat close to the older versions.

Regarding comparing the three perfumes, I will post my preliminary thoughts now, based on my recollection, but since it has been a while since I wore them, I will also test them out during this week and post an update soon. I need to find my Soliflore Gardenia sample, which is somewhere in my sample box.

Gardenia and Tuberose are often used together in perfumes, but I find them to have different personalities. Tuberose is a distinctive white floral, sultry, a little bit carnal, rich, and really quite stunning. I have a handful of tuberose perfumes that I love, including Malle's Carnal Flower. Gardenia is softer than tuberose to my nose, creamy, lush and beautiful.

Of the three perfumes, I find Lauder's Tuberose Gardenia to have a higher presence of tuberose in it. I would say (based on recollection) that it has a fairly equal blend of both tuberose and gardenia and is a well-constructed beautiful floral fragrance. Soliflore Gardenia is more of a true gardenia with the creamy, nutty (for want of a better descriptive word) scent of gardenia flowers. Chanel Gardenia is really Chanel's interpretation of gardenia, an elegant, floral scent that is delicate, but at the same time quite complex. Tuberose does not play a prominent role in Chanel Gardenia (as it does in Lauder's gardenia). In fact, my nose does not pick up any tuberose in Chanel Gardenia. @880 has given a good description of Chanel Gardenia upthread. The vanilla in Chanel Gardenia is really not at all prominent to my nose. In the hands of master perfumers, notes like vanilla are handled with expertise, which results in imparting a delicate warmth and subtle nuances rather than an outright foody note -- at least I find that to be the case in Chanel Gardenia. My apologies for describing and comparing these perfumes based on memory (which can be faulty) rather than actually trying them on. I will do so in the next day or two and update.


Thank you for the Neutrogena oil recommendation. I've been loving body oils lately, so I will definitely be ordering it and am looking forward to trying it.
Thank you for your detailed reponse!
On Lauder Tuberose Gardenia, I already threw away my bottle. Perhaps I got a bad batch, so... I just purchased a new bottle! I will do as you suggested and let it sit for a bit if the fragrance smells sharp.

I need to get some Soliflore Gardenia! Your description of creamy, nutty gardenia is exactly what I am seeking.
I went to the Dame website, and all choices for Soliflore Gardenia are sold out, even the sample size. The one exception is the rollerball. I am not a fan of rollerballs though. I once decanted my Carnal Flower into a mini rollerball as I thought it might be easy to use for travel vs. a spray. However, the perfume got cloudy. I honestly think it was due to being overexposed to air, or there were tiny particles of air dust/debri/skin that ends up on the rollerball which then brings it inside the bottle into the perfume liquid.

I will wait for them to restock. I am sure you are correct there were probably some Black Friday sale.

In searching for this fragrance, I found this website that sells Soliflore Gardenia. I would prefer to buy direct to ensure it's authentic and not altered. However, this website lists some great books on perfume!

Here is the link in case you or anyone else might be interested in books on perfume. Many are sold out on this website, but I went to amazon and purchased several that are listed.

Thank you again for sharing your thoughts and experiences!
 
Thank you for your detailed reponse!
On Lauder Tuberose Gardenia, I already threw away my bottle. Perhaps I got a bad batch, so... I just purchased a new bottle! I will do as you suggested and let it sit for a bit if the fragrance smells sharp.

I need to get some Soliflore Gardenia! Your description of creamy, nutty gardenia is exactly what I am seeking.
I went to the Dame website, and all choices for Soliflore Gardenia are sold out, even the sample size. The one exception is the rollerball. I am not a fan of rollerballs though. I once decanted my Carnal Flower into a mini rollerball as I thought it might be easy to use for travel vs. a spray. However, the perfume got cloudy. I honestly think it was due to being overexposed to air, or there were tiny particles of air dust/debri/skin that ends up on the rollerball which then brings it inside the bottle into the perfume liquid.

I will wait for them to restock. I am sure you are correct there were probably some Black Friday sale.

In searching for this fragrance, I found this website that sells Soliflore Gardenia. I would prefer to buy direct to ensure it's authentic and not altered. However, this website lists some great books on perfume!

Here is the link in case you or anyone else might be interested in books on perfume. Many are sold out on this website, but I went to amazon and purchased several that are listed.

Thank you again for sharing your thoughts and experiences!
You're welcome! I love florals and am happy if I can help in finding the right perfume. Early this morning, I tried my Lauder Tuberose Gardenia, and wondered why I don't wear it more often. I just needed one spray as it's quite potent, and I do get a lot more tuberose than gardenia. It doesn't change much throughout its evolution but I get a feeling of depth, of layers, and the fragrance smells full-bodied and rich. Sometimes some perfumes with single notes or fewer notes can smell a bit flat, but this definitely has a nice depth to it and is well done. I would give your new bottle a little time to mature if it feels too sharp. Another suggestion is to spray closer to the waist rather than at the neck or behind the ears. Spraying it at the waist or even the back of the knees (I do this with strong perfumes) allows the scent to rise up slowly and my nose doesn't get overwhelmed as I get soft whiffs of the perfume throughout the day.

Ok, on to Soliflore Gardenia. I located my tiny sample vial and dabbed some on after a work-out and shower. I am so glad I was able to find and test this to refresh my memory because I wouldn't describe it so much as creamy or even nutty, but as more of a green, realistic gardenia. It's as if you're standing in the garden amongst a lot of greenery and smelling a gardenia flower. I've been wearing it a couple of hours now, and the green note has mellowed a bit but still remains. It is a realistic gardenia, but not sure I would call it very creamy or nutty (don't know if those aspects will emerge later in the day). I would recommend waiting for samples and not buying this one blind. It might still be the gardenia you are seeking, but at least you will know for sure after sampling versus buying it unsniffed. My apologies for trying to describe it based on my memory, and I am so glad I was able to locate my sample.

I also wanted to mention a gardenia scented lotion and shower gel I buy off and on. It's by Shikai (usually sold in health food stores) and is simply called Gardenia, and it is a creamy gardenia fragrance. The scent is very soft and perfect for layering. Just wanted to mention it if anyone is interested.

Thank you for sharing the link about the books on perfume, will check it out.:tup:
 
The best rose I know of is Note di Profumum Meraviglia.

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Rose loving ladies...
All your recent posts about the "type" of rose (e.g. Bulgarian, Centifolia) made me think... what rose do I like? Hmm... I don't know, but I need to know!

I researched my favorite rose perfumes to see what type rose is used. Wow... what a discovery. Every rose perfume I love has Bulgarian rose! It's unbelievable, that's the one rose that all my rose perfumes have in common. Hence, Bulgarian rose must be the rose I love. I'm a Bulgarian rose lover! :nuts: :heart:

My favorite rose perfume is Jo Malone Red Roses, and it has Bulgarian Rose.
I also liked Creed Fleur De Rose Bulgare, and yes... Bulgarian Rose! Another Creed I loved is White Flowers; it has jasmine and... Bulgarian rose! Unfortunately, Creed does not last on me, so I stopped buying Creed.

Finally, an old and cheap rose perfume I used to love is Tea Rose, by Perfumer's Workshop. The roses used are tea rose, damask rose, and yes... you guessed it, Bulgarian rose!

@mocktail I got my sample of Eau Rose today, and I like it. I don't know if I love it yet. It sprays on super sweet, so I have to wait a bit for the top notes to wear off. It's a very deep, calming, rose scent, so it might be nice to sleep in (my rose perfumes are for sleeping). I'm going to use it for a few days and see if the like turns into love! I'll see if my husband notices it tonight. Thanks for the suggestion!

@Purses & Perfumes I am so glad you posted about Tuberose Gardenia and influenced me to buy a new bottle. My new bottle of Tuberose Gardenia arrived, and this bottle smells divine! It is exactly as how I remembered it years ago... very rich and creamy, not like the bottle I threw away which was very sharp. I love this bottle and had forgotten how much I love Tuberose Gardenia, a keeper! Thanks! I'll order Soliflore Gardenia when it's back in stock... still checking, but not yet.

Between my three daytime perfume favorites, Carnal Flower, Fracas, and now Tuberose Gardenia, I think I am going to OD on tuberose and gardenia! :biggrin::heart:
 
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By the way, if any of you ladies use this body oil and know what the scent/flowers used are, please share. I am in love with this fragrance, but I can't quite figure out the flowers. It smells like gardenia, but there is something else mixed in.
I usually use it in the summer, but all this talk of white flowers made me use it this week, and I absolutely love the smell.


As FYI, for winter, I use L'Occitane Almond Milk Concentrate. It smells like creamy almonds, but better than the smell is how smooth and silky it makes my skin. It's not greasy at all; you just get silky skin. I highly recommend it.
 
Rose loving ladies...
All your recent posts about the "type" of rose (e.g. Bulgarian, Centifolia) made me think... what rose do I like? Hmm... I don't know, but I need to know!

I researched my favorite rose perfumes to see what type rose is used. Wow... what a discovery. Every rose perfume I love has Bulgarian rose! It's unbelievable, that's the one rose that all my rose perfumes have in common. Hence, Bulgarian rose must be the rose I love. I'm a Bulgarian rose lover! :nuts: :heart:

My favorite rose perfume is Jo Malone Red Roses, and it has Bulgarian Rose.
I also liked Creed Fleur De Rose Bulgare, and yes... Bulgarian Rose! Another Creed I loved is White Flowers; it has jasmine and... Bulgarian rose! Unfortunately, Creed does not last on me, so I stopped buying Creed.

Finally, an old and cheap rose perfume I used to love is Tea Rose, by Perfumer's Workshop. The roses used are tea rose, damask rose, and yes... you guessed it, Bulgarian rose!

@mocktail I got my sample of Eau Rose today, and I like it. I don't know if I love it yet. It sprays on super sweet, so I have to wait a bit for the top notes to wear off. It's a very deep, calming, rose scent, so it might be nice to sleep in (my rose perfumes are for sleeping). I'm going to use it for a few days and see if the like turns into love! I'll see if my husband notices it tonight. Thanks for the suggestion!

@Purses & Perfumes I am so glad you posted about Tuberose Gardenia and influenced me to buy a new bottle. My new bottle of Tuberose Gardenia arrived, and this bottle smells divine! It is exactly as how I remembered it years ago... very rich and creamy, not like the bottle I threw away which was very sharp. I love this bottle and had forgotten how much I love Tuberose Gardenia, a keeper! Thanks! I'll order Soliflore Gardenia when it's back in stock... still checking, but not yet.

Between my three daytime perfume favorites, Carnal Flower, Fracas, and now Tuberose Gardenia, I think I am going to OD on tuberose and gardenia! :biggrin::heart:
We are Bulgarian Rose twins ❤️❤️
 
@Purses & Perfumes I am so glad you posted about Tuberose Gardenia and influenced me to buy a new bottle. My new bottle of Tuberose Gardenia arrived, and this bottle smells divine! It is exactly as how I remembered it years ago... very rich and creamy, not like the bottle I threw away which was very sharp. I love this bottle and had forgotten how much I love Tuberose Gardenia, a keeper! Thanks! I'll order Soliflore Gardenia when it's back in stock... still checking, but not yet.
Oh I am so glad that you got a good bottle of Estee Lauder Tuberose Gardenia! I think your previous bottle must have gone bad. Estee Lauder had three fragrances in that private collection series and they discontinued the other two which is a shame. Jasmine White Moss (which is lovely) and Amber Ylang Ylang (which goes for a lot now on online auction sites) were the other two. Thankfully, they still have Tuberose Gardenia in their offerings.

I still haven't tried Chanel Gardenia since I have a slight cold but it's on my list to wear as soon as I am better. Circling back to Soliflore Gardenia by Dame, I wanted to mention that there's a slightly mentholated quality to the opening which actually lasts for several hours. Overall, I have mixed feelings about it after the first wearing, but I am planning to sample it again because some perfumes need more than one sampling. The projection and longevity was amazing though. I hope they re-stock their samples soon.

Somewhere in my sample box is a sample of Aerin Gardenia Rattan. If I am able to locate it, I will try it on and share my thoughts.
I haven't received my order of the Neutrogena oil yet. Looking forward to receiving it, and I will post if I can recognize the flowers or have smelled anything similar.
 
Oh I am so glad that you got a good bottle of Estee Lauder Tuberose Gardenia! I think your previous bottle must have gone bad. Estee Lauder had three fragrances in that private collection series and they discontinued the other two which is a shame. Jasmine White Moss (which is lovely) and Amber Ylang Ylang (which goes for a lot now on online auction sites) were the other two. Thankfully, they still have Tuberose Gardenia in their offerings.

I still haven't tried Chanel Gardenia since I have a slight cold but it's on my list to wear as soon as I am better. Circling back to Soliflore Gardenia by Dame, I wanted to mention that there's a slightly mentholated quality to the opening which actually lasts for several hours. Overall, I have mixed feelings about it after the first wearing, but I am planning to sample it again because some perfumes need more than one sampling. The projection and longevity was amazing though. I hope they re-stock their samples soon.

Somewhere in my sample box is a sample of Aerin Gardenia Rattan. If I am able to locate it, I will try it on and share my thoughts.
I haven't received my order of the Neutrogena oil yet. Looking forward to receiving it, and I will post if I can recognize the flowers or have smelled anything similar.
The odd thing is the previous bottle of Tuberose Gardenia was brand new. I ordered it from Saks, and right off the bat, it smelled different. I just assumed it was a new formula as I had read Lauder made some changes in their formulas. Who knows what happened, but I'm so glad I bought a new bottle.

For the new bottle I just received, I decided to order it from Nordstrom instead of Saks, just in case!

I can't wait to try Soliflore Gardenia. I love EL Tuberose Gardenia, but with this perfume, I smell tuberose along with the gardenia, so it's not quite pure. Plus, I smell vanilla which I prefer fragrances without vanilla. I am hoping Soliflore Gardenia is the pure gardenia scent that I visualize in my mind! I think I will email Dame and ask for an ETA on restock... maybe bug him!

Oh, I am so excited you bought the Neutrogena oil. I can't wait for you to get it and let me know your thoughts on if you like it or not, but also what flowers you think is in that fragrance.
 
Creed Fleur De Rose Bulgare
I like this particular creed. Although it’s a bit sweet, it’s not candied or cosmetic. To me, it’s rich and dense.

slightly mentholated quality
I think tuberose has a mentholated quality. . .thus, the famous Serge Lutens Tuberose Criminelle
which was described by many as having a sharp camphor gasoline opening that mellows into a tuberose
the opening is good for those who cannot handle to much indoles (Like me)
Carnal flower is much more mellow with an underpinning of white musk
i like tuberose gardenia but not as much as CF
the Neutrogena oil.
I bought it too. I haven’t tried it yet. I think you might have recommended old neutrogena rainbath but not the new version. Well, Amazon had great reviews of the new version, so I thought why not. Yuck. You were right. I had to wash it off. But in doing so I forgot all about the oil lol.
 
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I bought it too. I haven’t tried it yet. I think you might have recommended old neutrogena rainbath but not the new version. Well, Amazon had great reviews of the new version, so I thought why not. Yuck. You were right. I had to wash it off. But in doing so I forgot all about the oil lol.
It wasn't me on Rainbath as I don't like the smell. I love Neutrogena Body Light Sesame Oil. I'm glad you also got it. Please let me know what fragrance notes you smell when you get it.

As FYI, in case you or @Purses & Perfumes fall in love with Neutrogena Body Light Sesame Oil and decide to use it...
The flip top bottle is a major pain and the oil gets everywhere, including dripping down the bottle which then I have to wash & clean the darn bottle everytime.

So... I decant my bottle to a smaller 8oz pump bottle which helps tremendously (I like the 8oz Boston Round HDPE). No more greasy mess, and you just pump what you want into your palms.

If you really realy love this oil, it comes in a jumbo size. Costco gets it every now and then, but it sells out super fast.
I just went to Costco last week (stocked up on toilet paper and paper towels!). :biggrin: :heart:
I saw they had the jumbo bottles in stock, so I grabbed one. It's a huge bottle, but I decant it.
Here it is on the website for reference, but I see it's already sold out.

I look forward to hearing you ladies think... yay or nay, but also, what is that amazing scent?! :nuts::heart:
 
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