Perfume Chat Thread

[BigAkoya]

I think tuberose has a mentholated quality. . .thus, the famous Serge Lutens Tuberose Criminelle
which was described by many as having a sharp camphor gasoline opening that mellows into a tuberose
the opening is good for those who cannot handle to much indoles (Like me)
Carnal flower is much more mellow with an underpinning of white musk
i like tuberose gardenia but not as much as CF

Have you tried Fracas? It is slightly more mellow than Carnal Flower. Fracas also lasts forever, on your skin, clothes, etc. Very lovely.

Also, I had to google many of yours word describing perfume! Metholated, indoles... I am not a perfume expert like you at all.
All this talk of perfume has got me now intriqued, so I want to learn more about fragrances.

 

[Purses & Perfumes]

The odd thing is the previous bottle of Tuberose Gardenia was brand new. I ordered it from Saks, and right off the bat, it smelled different. I just assumed it was a new formula as I had read Lauder made some changes in their formulas. Who knows what happened, but I'm so glad I bought a new bottle.

For the new bottle I just received, I decided to order it from Nordstrom instead of Saks, just in case!

I can't wait to try Soliflore Gardenia. I love EL Tuberose Gardenia, but with this perfume, I smell tuberose along with the gardenia, so it's not quite pure. Plus, I smell vanilla which I prefer fragrances without vanilla. I am hoping Soliflore Gardenia is the pure gardenia scent that I visualize in my mind! I think I will email Dame and ask for an ETA on restock... maybe bug him!

Oh, I am so excited you bought the Neutrogena oil. I can't wait for you to get it and let me know your thoughts on if you like it or not, but also what flowers you think is in that fragrance.

Perhaps the first bottle was from a bad batch. I am glad they haven't changed the fragrance and have kept it the same.

Soliflore Gardenia is certainly a pure representation of gardenia, with no tuberose and definitely no vanilla, at least to my nose. From the reviews it sounds like the oil rollerball version wears a little differently than the EDT. Good idea to email him about restocking. I hope it will be the pure gardenia you are looking for. I should mention that my sample is a few years old, and it's possible that if he uses a lot of naturals in his fragrances, there might be some slight changes over the years (wondering if that accounts for the slight mentholated note in there).

@880, you're right, Tubereuse Criminelle does have a very mentholated opening. It's definitely much more subtle, and not as intense in Soliflore Gardenia, and was gone at drydown.
Speaking of green, I love how the hint of eucalyptus in Carnal Flower imparts a very subtle green facet to the overall white floral composition of the perfume.

I like this particular creed. Although it’s a bit sweet, it’s not candied or cosmetic. To me, it’s rich and dense.

I have Creed Fleurs de Bulgarie, and it's a classic rose that gets quite soapy in the drydown. Creed also made Fleurs de The Rose Bulgare (very similar sounding names), which I think they've discontinued now. I never tried that one. Their Fleurissimo is one I like quite a bit and it's a tuberose-centric fragrance too.

 

[880]

@BigAkoya ,

re indoles, a nice description of the indolic in white florals in boisdejasmin website which is quite good

Indole Archives - Bois de Jasmin

boisdejasmin.com

Basenotes website has a post by a member stating that neutrogena sesame body oil is similar to the fragrance Bond Fire Island. . . Apologies to @Purses & Perfumes if you had already posted the Bond fragrance connection. I recall some mention of the brand, but all of the individual perfume names as locations irritate me so I always skipped them



i couldn’t find a review of Neutrogena Sesame oil, until I realized it’s in a different category: functional perfumery
The Basenotes reviewer in that thread described Neutrogena Sesame oil specifically as a solar jasmine sandalwood,
and I found this review https://basenotes.com/community/thr...rprised-by-functional-perfumery.536179/page-3

and amother review of Bond fire Island with a bit more description than the pyramid lol

https://www.fragrantica.com/perfume/Bond-No-9/Fire-Island-1299.html

There is some back and forth as to amber, patchouli, white musk, plus either jasmine, gardenia, white florals, for an impression of old world sun tan oil without any tropical (read coconut) notes.

The Neutrogena review characterized the scent as a solar perfume (perhaps referencing sun tan oil and beach), while the Bond Fire Island reviews described it as ozone.

 

[mocktail]

Any tuberose lovers who have tried French Flower by Matiere Premiere? I have it and like it, but it’s very strong. I almost feel like I can chew the flowers

The perfumer has his own flower fields in Grasse. And he uses 2 methods to extract the tuberose scent, including an old, labor intensive method called enfleurage.

I discovered Matiere Permiere after being disappointed by Vanille 44 from Le Labo. I started looking for another sweet incense and found MP’s Encens Suave. But Radical Rose is my favorite from MP so far.

 

[880]

Any tuberose lovers who have tried French Flower by Matiere Premiere? I have it and like it, but it’s very strong. I almost feel like I can chew the flowers

The perfumer has his own flower fields in Grasse. And he uses 2 methods to extract the tuberose scent, including an old, labor intensive method called enfleurage.

I discovered Matiere Permiere after being disappointed by Vanille 44 from Le Labo. I started looking for another sweet incense and found MP’s Encens Suave. But Radical Rose is my favorite from MP so far.

I haven’t tried it, but perhaps @BigAkoya or @Purses & Perfumes.

amouage also uses enfleurage extensively in their manufacturing plant in Oman. @Tasha1 and I visited (on separate dates) and I think I have some pictures somewhere. I forgot what kind of oil was used. . .

DH likes a scent from le labo, the one that all of NY wore a few years back lol. I haven’t tried Matiere either, but will take note

 

[Tasha1]

Any tuberose lovers who have tried French Flower by Matiere Premiere?

It's me. Very beautiful and I sniffed Rose Radical. Nishane has a very unique tuberose scent. I regret I didn't buy Dior Passage N9 .
I found tuberose by Henry Jacques ( Dentelle au Coeur) quiet interesting. Not loud, very sophisticated and gentle.

 

[Tasha1]

In October I was n Japan, and in Tokyo I visited the HJ boutique.
HJ also makes exclusive scents only for the countries where its boutique is represented. I wanted to have a scent as my travel memory about Japan. There are 3 scents but it wasn't wow for me.

 

[880]

In October I was n Japan, and in Tokyo I visited the HJ boutique.
HJ also makes exclusive scents only for the countries where its boutique is represented. I wanted to have a scent as my travel memory about Japan. There are 3 scents but it wasn't wow for me.
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Thank you for this pic! How beautiful ! Your trip sounded so amazing !
Hugs

thought this was a nice read; I used to wear Hermes orang vert. Perhaps I will dig it up again

Napoleon's Cologne and The Art of Citrus Fragrances - Bois de Jasmin

what did Napoleon wear in his exile?

boisdejasmin.com

 

[Love Of My Life]

In October I was n Japan, and in Tokyo I visited the HJ boutique.
HJ also makes exclusive scents only for the countries where its boutique is represented. I wanted to have a scent as my travel memory about Japan. There are 3 scents but it wasn't wow for me.
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Sorry that the 3 scents were not a "wow" for you at HJ
I had the opportunity to speak with a SA at the Beverly Hills shop & he was
able to edit for me & send me several scent sticks & his nose was spot on
On a trip to Paris I went to the HJ Boutique & fell in love with several scents
one of them being an exclusive but I layer them for my own pleasure
& found that is how they work for me.

 

[tdy80]

Finally got to try Le Labo's new Lavande 31. I tend to agree their perfumes are generally overpriced but sometimes they hit the sweet spot to the point that my own signature is from there, so I always look out for their new releases. Can't say this one felt particularly complex, nice and clean with the lavender under the soapiness, I'd wear it but probably not buy it.

 

[BigAkoya]

Speaking of green, I love how the hint of eucalyptus in Carnal Flower imparts a very subtle green facet to the overall white floral composition of the perfume.

Eucalyptus and "green"... yes! I did not know what it was that made Carnal Flower crispy, but thank you for that! Fracas is more mellow, but it's also beautiful in its own way.

Creed also made Fleurs de The Rose Bulgare (very similar sounding names), which I think they've discontinued now. I never tried that one. Their Fleurissimo is one I like quite a bit and it's a tuberose-centric fragrance too.

I loved Creed Fleurs de The Rose Bulgare. It was was a deep sweet rose. When I first sprayed it on, and for those 2 hours when you could actually smell it on me, I would get compliments. It faded so fast though.
Creed lovers usually don't mind the fast fade, but I think a big reason why it was discontinued was they made it too exclusive. You could only buy it in the jumbo size flacon which of course costs a lot of money. It was never offered in another size; hence that limited sales.

Fleurissimo... I had a love hate relatioship with it. I loved the floral part, but the powdery part was too much for me. Is that powdery stuff sandalwood? I am thinking I am not a fan of sandalwood. The iconic Chanel No. 5 that so many people love is another perfume that is too powdery for me, and I noticed it also has sandalwood.

I can't wait to get the perfume books I ordered to learn about perfumes!

 

[BigAkoya]

@BigAkoya ,

re indoles, a nice description of the indolic in white florals in boisdejasmin website which is quite good

Indole Archives - Bois de Jasmin

boisdejasmin.com

Basenotes website has a post by a member stating that neutrogena sesame body oil is similar to the fragrance Bond Fire Island. . . Apologies to @Purses & Perfumes if you had already posted the Bond fragrance connection. I recall some mention of the brand, but all of the individual perfume names as locations irritate me so I always skipped them

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i couldn’t find a review of Neutrogena Sesame oil, until I realized it’s in a different category: functional perfumery
The Basenotes reviewer in that thread described Neutrogena Sesame oil specifically as a solar jasmine sandalwood,
and I found this review https://basenotes.com/community/thr...rprised-by-functional-perfumery.536179/page-3

and amother review of Bond fire Island with a bit more description than the pyramid lol

https://www.fragrantica.com/perfume/Bond-No-9/Fire-Island-1299.html

There is some back and forth as to amber, patchouli, white musk, plus either jasmine, gardenia, white florals, for an impression of old world sun tan oil without any tropical (read coconut) notes.

The Neutrogena review characterized the scent as a solar perfume (perhaps referencing sun tan oil and beach), while the Bond Fire Island reviews described it as ozone.

Thank you and yes, I saw that same post a while ago, and I tried Bond Fire Island.
To me, Fire Island is not like Neutrogena Light Sesame Oil. Fire Island is super musky and sharp, screaming at you.
A big yuck for me on Fire Island!

I can't wait until you ladies get this oil to smell it. I am sure you will immediately know the notes. It sounds like jasmine is one od the notes.

 

[BigAkoya]

Any tuberose lovers who have tried French Flower by Matiere Premiere? I have it and like it, but it’s very strong. I almost feel like I can chew the flowers

The perfumer has his own flower fields in Grasse. And he uses 2 methods to extract the tuberose scent, including an old, labor intensive method called enfleurage.

I discovered Matiere Permiere after being disappointed by Vanille 44 from Le Labo. I started looking for another sweet incense and found MP’s Encens Suave. But Radical Rose is my favorite from MP so far.

I have not tried it, but if it's stronger than Carnal Flower, yikes! I googled French Flower, and it sounds lovely. I may have to find a sample.

I assume you have tried Carnal Flower and don't love it. Fracas is sofer, and those are my top two favorite tuberose perfumes.

 

[880]

Thank you and yes, I saw that same post a while ago, and I tried Bond Fire Island.
To me, Fire Island is not like Neutrogena Light Sesame Oil. Fire Island is super musky and sharp, screaming at you.
A big yuck for me on Fire Island!

I can't wait until you ladies get this oil to smell it. I am sure you will immediately know the notes. It sounds like jasmine is one od the notes.

You are right The functional perfumery review of Neutrogena body oil is a link in the my post above. One of its notes is definitely jasmine as it is described by the reviewer as a ‘solar jasmine sandalwood

Here is an explanation of the solar note : https://boisdejasmin.com/perfume-notes

 

[Tasha1]

Sorry that the 3 scents were not a "wow" for you at HJ
I had the opportunity to speak with a SA at the Beverly Hills shop & he was
able to edit for me & send me several scent sticks & his nose was spot on
On a trip to Paris I went to the HJ Boutique & fell in love with several scents
one of them being an exclusive but I layer them for my own pleasure
& found that is how they work for me.

Those Japanese exclusives asked me being quiet and relaxed to value them better. Another point was the Japanese climate. Needless to say that good scents are very changeable, either you are in the mountains or on the sea shore. To buy something when I wasn't sure was not my attention.
And we had few days in Tokyo for the second visit.
I wanted Osara but the boutique didn't carry it.