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If the saleswoman flat out said the bag is too expensive (so she wouldn't show it to her) that is discrimination as far as I am concerned. It's also rude and unprofessional. I'm pretty sure that some rich people do not get all dressed up with lots of expensive jewels and other accessories to go along with their expensive designer clothes before they go shopping.
 
I don't know if this is a racist situation or not but I do know there are alot of lazy SA out there because I've had this happen to me quite a few times and I'm as WASPy as it gets

The first time I wanted to buy a purse over $3k I was told the same thing, the SA didn't want to get it for me as it was expensive. She even asked me if I knew the price and when I told her I did she relented and got me the bag.
Sadly, I've had this happen a few times now. I bought a purse this year that was around $1200 and the SA asked me if I was serious about the bag as she had to go to the basement to get it out of the stock room as they didn't have it in the store, lazy girl didn't want to walk downstairs to get it unless she knew I was serious I guess

The first time I can remember this happening to me was in New York trying to buy some shoes and the male SA asked me straight out " are you serious about these shoes because the are expensive and I don't want to get them unless you really want them " I did the same thing as Oprah and told him that he was right, that was too much to spend on shoes and left

Some people really shouldn't be in sales
 
'I needed to pull back': Oprah Winfrey opens up about her near nervous breakdown... and how fiance Stedman helped her through it

She is the queen of television and one of the most powerful women in the world.

But things aren’t always so easy for Oprah Winfrey.

The former talk show host has opened up about having a near nervous breakdown in a candid interview, as the tables have been turned on her.

The 59-year-old recalled a time last year when she was grilling Jason Russell and became aware of her own predicament.

‘He was talking about having a nervous breakdown, and I was thinking, “I have those symptoms,”’ she told People magazine.

A few days later, Oprah hit breaking point while recording voiceovers for shows on her OWN network.

‘I remember closing my eyes while I was reading. I thought, “I cannot have another thing enter my brain,”’ she said. ‘I needed to pull back.’

Oprah famously quit her talk show two years ago and was struggling while first launching her network.

‘After 25 years of being No. 1, I had become accustomed to success. I didn’t expect failure,’ she admitted. ‘I was tested and I had to dig deep.

‘People were counting me out. The schadenfreude was very painful for me, because I had never experienced it. I thought, “Do I not get credit for the 25 years? What have I gotten myself into?”’

But Oprah said the tough time only helped her to realise that she needed to take action to better her situation.

‘This forced me not to just talk the talk,’ Oprah said. ‘Failure is a great teacher – I knew this intellectually. But it’s another thing if you’re living it.’

Oprah admits that her fiancé Stedman Graham was the one who really helped her through it by giving her some words of wisdom.

‘He was amazing,’ she gushed. ‘He said, “You can’t even think about quitting. You have been in cruise control. It’s gonna turn around, but you’ve gotta do the work.”’

The pair have been engaged for 21 years but Oprah is perhaps more in love with her other half than ever before.

‘We’re like an old married couple,’ she said. ‘I’ve seen people crawl over him, push him aside. He’s learned how to navigate that.’

Oprah added: ‘That takes a confident man. That embodies who he is.’

The star is returning to the big screen and can be seen in Lee Daniels’ The Butler opposite Forest Whitaker, and mused: ‘I didn’t embarrass myself! I was so worried I would.’

Oprah misses some aspects of her talk show but is enjoying not having to be at the studio at 6:30am.

‘Now the most exciting thing is being able to wake up when my body naturally wakes up,’ Oprah said. ‘Lately that’s 7:24am.’

While Oprah has turned her OWN network around and is seeing lots of success with the venture, she believes she will always want to leave while on a high.

‘I never want to be less than passionate,’ she explained. ‘I never want to go to work going, “Do I have to show up?” I want to leave while I feel, “Wow, I can’t believe I have this.”’


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2393671/Oprah-Winfrey-opens-near-nervous-breakdown--fiance-Stedman-helped-it.html#ixzz2byMjjIKP
 
oh yes, the Europe factor. I must say that service in the US is very different from service in Europe. I mean, I can't generalize all countries of course, butI have noticed that people on this forum were insulted when sales associates didn't offer their service within the first 2 minutes. This is def. not the norm here, in most stores you go ask the sales people for another size 60% of the time. No one has a problem with that. Just to give a little insight.

I know quite a few people that found shopping in the US annoying at times, because the SAs are so "friendly", like they actually know you (which is sometimes considered "fake" where I'm from). American SAs are generally also more involved with what you are doing, even when you just want to browse around on your own.

As for me, I don't really mind either treatment. It's a cultural thing really! I like experiencing the differences.
 
I know quite a few people that found shopping in the US annoying at times, because the SAs are so "friendly", like they actually know you (which is sometimes considered "fake" where I'm from). American SAs are generally also more involved with what you are doing, even when you just want to browse around on your own.

As for me, I don't really mind either treatment. It's a cultural thing really! I like experiencing the differences.

:yes:

My European boyfriend made the same comment, he found it annoying, lol.
 
Oprah has previously made false accusations of racism which conveniently coincide with the release of racist movies.

She did it in 2005 with the Hermes store before the release of the movie Crash. She showed up 15 minutes after the store was closed and said they wouldn't let her in because Hermes has a problem with North Africans. Read the entire story below.

http://edition.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/TV/06/22/oprah.apology/


Luxury store apologizes to Oprah
Hermes' Paris store had rebuffed talk show host

Wednesday, June 22, 2005 Posted: 2348 GMT (0748 HKT)

A spokeswoman says Oprah Winfrey will discuss the incident on air when her show resumes production.

(CNN) -- Luxury store Hermes on Wednesday apologized to Oprah Winfrey for turning her away last week, saying that its Paris store was closed to set up for a public relations event when the talk show host stopped by.

"Hermes regrets not having been able to accommodate Ms. Winfrey and her team and to provide her with the service and care that Hermes strives to provide to each and every one of its customers worldwide," the store said in a statement.

"Hermes apologizes for any offense taken due to such circumstances."

The store said the incident occurred on June 14 around 6:45 p.m., about 15 minutes after the store closed. It said Winfrey and her team arrived at a time when "a private PR event was being set up inside."

Harpo Productions spokeswoman Michelle McIntyre said Winfrey "will discuss her 'crash moment' when her show returns from hiatus in September."

"Crash" is a film dealing with race relations. The phrase "crash moment" refers to situations where a party feels discriminated against on the basis of skin color.

The New York Daily News cited sources close to Winfrey as saying the talk show host was first rebuffed by a clerk and then a store manager. The Daily News reported Winfrey had gone to the store to buy a watch for singer Tina Turner, her dining partner that night.

McIntyre confirmed that account for CNN.

The New York Post, in its Monday Page Six gossip column, reported she was turned away because the store had been "having a problem with North Africans lately."

In comments to CNN, an Hermes spokeswoman categorically denied that allegation.

"There was never any discussion of North Africans," she said. "The story is not true."

The spokeswoman said Winfrey came to the store 15 minutes after closing and a security guard informed her the store was closed and gave her a card, telling her she could come back the next day.

Surveillance videotape of the encounter supports the store's account, according to the spokeswoman.

She said the CEO of Hermes has called Winfrey's people to explain "the situation" and invited her to come back to shop in the store.
 
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Whether or not a video is ever released... I don't think there's any way that any of us can watch interviews... and read articles... and scrutinize quotes... and know the real story.

In the end, the experience of racism is inherently personal. Nor do I believe that it always requires visible proof observable by anyone other than the person on the receiving end of discrimination (based on one's race). When it happens to you... white, brown, or whatever... you know it.

It's not surprising that there are people rushing to the defense of the person being accused of racisim. There will always be a camp of people who dismiss claims of racism as "oversensitivity". Regardless, since defenders are not the ones experiencing the discrimination (based on race) in question, their contributions serve only to invalidate the real experience of the person who did experience mistreatment.

Ultimately such a way of perceiving racism - by individuals, societies, institutions, etc. - permits the acceptance of insidious discriminatory behaviors based on race to continue unchecked. As long as it is a problem not acknowledged or addressed, it is a problem that will continue to devalue an entire group of people - based solely on race (and often, also, of nationality).

Whether this was a ploy - or not - to create buzz around Oprah's new movie - does not in any way diminish Oprah's experiences. I applaud her for continuing a conversation that so many people would rather avoid: that racism and discrimination based on race - still exists.
 
Whether or not a video is ever released... I don't think there's any way that any of us can watch interviews... and read articles... and scrutinize quotes... and know the real story.

In the end, the experience of racism is inherently personal. Nor do I believe that it always requires visible proof observable by anyone other than the person on the receiving end of discrimination (based on one's race). When it happens to you... white, brown, or whatever... you know it.

It's not surprising that there are people rushing to the defense of the person being accused of racisim. There will always be a camp of people who dismiss claims of racism as "oversensitivity". Regardless, since defenders are not the ones experiencing the discrimination (based on race) in question, their contributions serve only to invalidate the real experience of the person who did experience mistreatment.

Ultimately such a way of perceiving racism - by individuals, societies, institutions, etc. - permits the acceptance of insidious discriminatory behaviors based on race to continue unchecked. As long as it is a problem not acknowledged or addressed, it is a problem that will continue to devalue an entire group of people - based solely on race (and often, also, of nationality).

Whether this was a ploy - or not - to create buzz around Oprah's new movie - does not in any way diminish Oprah's experiences. I applaud her for continuing a conversation that so many people would rather avoid: that racism and discrimination based on race - still exists.


And let the church say AMEN...
 
I know quite a few people that found shopping in the US annoying at times, because the SAs are so "friendly", like they actually know you (which is sometimes considered "fake" where I'm from). American SAs are generally also more involved with what you are doing, even when you just want to browse around on your own.

As for me, I don't really mind either treatment. It's a cultural thing really! I like experiencing the differences.

I totally agree, just recently I was in Hawaii and I had to leave a few stores as it drove me insane.

I don't mean to be rude but I don't want to know your name and I don't want to be your friend, if I say I am browsing stop following me around and talking to me, just leave me alone, if I want help I will ask for it!
 
Either this article is poorly translated or made up, it just doesn't even sound how Oprah speaks.
More from the Daily Fail... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-nearly-called-Jennifer-Aniston-tell-her.html


Now Oprah Winfrey insists she WAS victim of racism at Swiss store and reveals how she nearly called her friend Jennifer Aniston who the $38,000 bag was named after Oprah gave extraordinary interview to Swiss newspaper Blick claiming she experienced what 'people of black or brown color experience daily'


Oprah Winfrey insisted that she WAS a victim of racism and she experienced what 'people of black or brown color experience daily', in an interview with a Swiss newspaper published today. Oprah, one of the world's richest women, revealed on Entertainment Tonight last week that she felt discriminated against when a sales assistant in a luxury Zurich Boutique refused to show her a $38,000 handbag designed by Tom Ford and named after Jennifer Aniston.

'I was asked if I am confronted with racism,' she told Swiss daily Blick in an interview in Los Angeles on Monday night but not published until today.


Casual 'racism': Oprah, who said she was dressed nicely, told the newspaper that what she experienced was what 'people of black or brown color experience daily'

'My answer - not in the same way as others because I am so well known. Except on Twitter, no-one dares confront me with the N-word. I feel discrimination in a different way. 'My antenna receives an underlying "what is going on here?" I called Zurich an example, because it was happening.'

Asked if she was being 'particularly sensitive,' she said: 'No! I know of no black man who was never stopped by police because of his skin color, or persecuted, but it's different for women. What I've experienced in Switzerland happened only once before in my life.

'So I didn't want to indict Switzerland. It was a single incident. An incident that people of black or brown color experience daily.

She even added that she was tempted to call her friends Ford or Aniston as she stood in the store.

'That damn bag': Oprah said that if she had known the cost of the bag when she asked to see it - she probably would have thought it was too expensive

'Snub': Oprah said in the interview that shop assistants 'usually rejoice when she enters a store', owned by Trudie Goetz, above. Oprah added: 'People usually press their noses flat against the windows to see me shopping'

'It was however uncommon for that to happen to me. Believe me, usually sales people rejoice when I come to them in their business. It is very unusual that I'm not really involved when in a boutique. Outside, people usually press their noses flat against the windows to see me shopping.'

Oprah had claimed in the original Entertainment Tonight that the Italian-born sales assistant refused to show her the crocodile leather bag, the suggestion being, she implied, that as a black woman she could not afford it.

The incident happened at the Trois Pommes Boutique in Storchengasse, a street behind the ritzy Bahnhofstrasse in Zurich, one of the world's wealthiest and most expensive cities.

Oprah was invited to be a guest in July at the wedding of soul singer Tina Turner in Switzerland and wanted a handbag to compliment her outfit.

She went on: 'I was the only person in the store. I had dressed myself up extra special because I know that things can get very snobby in these kinds of stores.

'The employees first check out what clothes you're wearing. Therefore I chose a Donna Karan outfit - and even washed my hair even. So nobody could mistake me for a homeless person who got lost in the store.

'The woman did not want to get down the bag which I wanted to look at. The effort was too much for her. She said to me, that the bag was simply too expensive. And I said: "I want to see it anyway." Instead she tossed me cheaper bags.

'I said: "Okay, thank you very much! But I really want to see the others." She still kept showing me the cheaper ones.

'To be honest, if I had known upfront what this damned bag cost, do you know what? The woman was right: I would not have bought the thing - far too expensive! Too expensive! $38,000! I would have fainted when I saw the price tag.'

She continued: 'The saleslady said it was the Jennifer Aniston bag that was created by Tom Ford for Jennifer. The idea went through my head that I should call Jennifer or Tom - I know them both very well. Instead I said to the saleslady: "Okay, I understand. The bag is just for Jennifer, and only she is allowed to buy it, right?

'The woman said "no, no" and tried to explain something. But I was no longer listening. I just said: "Thank you very much, you're probably right that I can't afford it."

'I went. I didn't want to make a scene. Really not. That's why it annoys me now too, that it has become this major international story. And that the names of Tom Ford and Jennifer Aniston were pulled in too. The whole thing is really quite annoying.'

She acknowledges the apologies of the owner Trudie Goetz and the anonymous saleslady but added: 'But I don't know whether the apology brings something. Discrimination is there, anywhere around the world, every day. As I said, I did not want to bring the whole of Switzerland into disrepute.

'Perhaps she never wanted to reach for the bag because it was too high up. Does anyone know? Anyway, I had a great time in Switzerland. My friend Tina Turner got married, I went for a walk every day. It's a pity that such a big deal is now being made out of this other thing.'

The publication of the frank interview will do nothing to quell the war of words currently raging between the TV talk show queen and Goetz.

Yesterday Goetz said she wanted to speak personally to Winfrey and defended her employee to the hilt, adding: ‘I don't know why she talked of racism. I am sorry, but perhaps she is being a little over-sensitive here. Maybe she was somewhat offended because she was not immediately recognized in the store.'
 
Whether or not a video is ever released... I don't think there's any way that any of us can watch interviews... and read articles... and scrutinize quotes... and know the real story.

In the end, the experience of racism is inherently personal. Nor do I believe that it always requires visible proof observable by anyone other than the person on the receiving end of discrimination (based on one's race). When it happens to you... white, brown, or whatever... you know it.

It's not surprising that there are people rushing to the defense of the person being accused of racisim. There will always be a camp of people who dismiss claims of racism as "oversensitivity". Regardless, since defenders are not the ones experiencing the discrimination (based on race) in question, their contributions serve only to invalidate the real experience of the person who did experience mistreatment.

Ultimately such a way of perceiving racism - by individuals, societies, institutions, etc. - permits the acceptance of insidious discriminatory behaviors based on race to continue unchecked. As long as it is a problem not acknowledged or addressed, it is a problem that will continue to devalue an entire group of people - based solely on race (and often, also, of nationality).

Whether this was a ploy - or not - to create buzz around Oprah's new movie - does not in any way diminish Oprah's experiences. I applaud her for continuing a conversation that so many people would rather avoid: that racism and discrimination based on race - still exists.
Nicely stated.
 
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