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Re: prices- perhaps that huge jack-up on the logo trunk was truly a hint of what's to come. I'm guessing that the new stuff will include more canvas options at a (relatively) lower price point while "regular" leather bags will rise to hover around 6K for ~30mm sizes.

At what point does one just spend the extra 25% or so and buy H instead? (I really love to-date Moynat and some of the key Ramesh designs but I'm not going to pay near-Hermès prices for not-Hermès.)
This pricing definitely will make me think thrice before another purchase. Instead of ticking a few boxes, the bag better tick almost all of my boxes at that price.

H, warts and all, provides continuity and consistency - and I didn't realize the extent of my appreciation for continuity and consistency until the recent M changes. I really hope Mr. Knightly has some amazing designs up his sleeve.
 
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This pricing definitely will make me think thrice before another purchase. Instead of ticking a few boxes, the bag better tick almost all of my boxes at that price.

H, warts and all, provides continuity and consistency - and I didn't realize the extent of my appreciation for continuity and consistency until the recent M changes. I really hope Mr. Knightly has some amazing designs up his sleeve.
Nicely put - "continuity and consistency" would have been a given in the Ramesh-era Moynat.

There is much to be said for knowing who you are and what you're about. (Brands as well as us clients.) Right before Covid I remember talking with a woman in her early 20s. She had a friend from high school who had recently had a lot of plastic surgery and, so, needed to completely delete all of her old social media stuff. The woman I was talking with understood but felt sorry for her friend for feeling the need to erase her old self (and connections!). She said "I guess she looks cuter now but she was more interesting before."
 
I think it might be a long long time until I can find something preloved and play in this league.
Don’t give up. Ann’s Fabulous Finds usually has some Moynat classic bags available. I understand having to save for a bag of your dreams, and have price go up or find the bag discontinued. I still have to save for bags. In 2021, I’m buying my first leather handbags in a long time. It feels good to have waited, saved, and learn what works for me. It’ll happen for you! :flowers:
 
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Re: prices- perhaps that huge jack-up on the logo trunk was truly a hint of what's to come. I'm guessing that the new stuff will include more canvas options at a (relatively) lower price point while "regular" leather bags will rise to hover around 6K for ~30mm sizes.

At what point does one just spend the extra 25% or so and buy H instead? (I really love to-date Moynat and some of the key Ramesh designs but I'm not going to pay near-Hermès prices for not-Hermès.)

I had forgotten about the huge price increase of that trunk until you wrote about it in this post. Oh, my!
Well, you know I am as big of a Moynat cheerleader as they come, but I must say, I agree with what you wrote. H has a proven history- though it’s difficult to get exactly what you want, if a customer is a newbie. At least with Moynat, a person can SO bags, if the color they want isn’t available. But that SO bag will end-up having a H price tag, and might take an extra 4-6 months.

Do all luxury houses have this type of turnover with a change at the top? I feel like M is making impulsive decisions- private sale, public sale, discontinued items available for SO, then not available, pre-order bags not made, the first season from a new designer out nine months after they started, yet the company makes only a handful of new bags in that time. I realize we’re in the midst of a pandemic, but I’m feeling a bit confused.

Deep breath- just because I don’t know what’s going on doesn’t mean M doesn’t know what they’re doing. I’m looking forward to what‘s coming (to M) in the spring, but I hope H (and my friend’s bag sale) doesn’t break me (financially) beforehand.
 
hi, i'm completely new to moynat, is the mini vanity being retired with the new creative director? i'm thinking about biting the bullet and buying one if i'm running out of time -- I rarely use bags, and only ever carry my phone + small wallet out with me, so I don't think it's too unpractical for me.
 
hi, i'm completely new to moynat, is the mini vanity being retired with the new creative director? i'm thinking about biting the bullet and buying one if i'm running out of time -- I rarely use bags, and only ever carry my phone + small wallet out with me, so I don't think it's too unpractical for me.
I haven’t heard of this being retired, but I would purchase now, just in case.
 
Ramesh and I messaged this morning. I thought I’d share part of what he wrote that was for our group. His views about handbag trends, and where they are headed (which I’ve chosen not to included in this little blurb), are interesting and pretty much repeated by many of us. It seems a certain market has gotten ahold of ‘luxury houses’- leaving those who design, yet have different visions, and those of us who do not appreciate the direction styles are headed, out in the cold. We’re the minority and these companies do not see us as their money-makers. From what he wrote to me, I feel he is disappointed in the LV-ish model that is spreading. IMO- He’s deep, and he wants his products to have meaning. He refuses to throw just anything out there to make a dollar for a company. Opposite of Arnault, jr.? I dunno. That’s just my guess, but I won’t put words in his mouth.
I’m excited for him! Now, I’m trying to figure out what 1800’s company he’s talking about. Please, post if you have any ideas.:panic:
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Ramesh and I messaged this morning. I thought I’d share part of what he wrote that was for our group. His views about handbag trends, and where they are headed (which I’ve chosen not to included in this little blurb), are interesting and pretty much repeated by many of us. It seems a certain market has gotten ahold of ‘luxury houses’- leaving those who design, yet have different visions, and those of us who do not appreciate the direction styles are headed, out in the cold. We’re the minority and these companies do not see us as their money-makers. From what he wrote to me, I feel he is disappointed in the LV-ish model that is spreading. IMO- He’s deep, and he wants his products to have meaning. He refuses to throw just anything out there to make a dollar for a company. Opposite of Arnault, jr.? I dunno. That’s just my guess, but I won’t put words in his mouth.
I’m excited for him! Now, I’m trying to figure out what 1800’s company he’s talking about. Please, post if you have any ideas.:panic:
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OOooo how exciting! @Sourisbrune , you truly are the godmother of this thread :heart: Thank you so much for sharing.

As for the brand revival, my initial thoughts are:

- Possibly Au Départ? Would be a nice tie-in with the history of Moynat as well, and I don't believe it is a subsidiary of LVMH (I could be completely wrong)

- Lanvin also comes to mind, but more from a "needs a revival/potentially upping their leather goods game" standpoint IMO. Although Lanvin never really went away, I certainly feel like it dropped off the radar after the Alber Elbaz era.

- Delvaux crossed my mind but I'm not sure it needs a revival, plus I see Ramesh going for more of an unknown brand similar to a true revival like Moynat.

-EDIT: I'm also adding H.J. Cave & Sons to the list. My thoughts are if he is sticking with leather goods, most companies founded in the 1800's would be trunk makers or saddleries (assuming he isn't talking about a fashion house).
 
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