Official MOYNAT Thread

[Mousy]

OOooo how exciting! @Sourisbrune , you truly are the godmother of this thread Thank you so much for sharing.

As for the brand revival, my initial thoughts are:

- Possibly Au Départ? Would be a nice tie-in with the history of Moynat as well, and I don't believe it is a subsidiary of LVMH (I could be completely wrong)

- Lanvin also comes to mind, but more from a "needs a revival/potentially upping their leather goods game" standpoint IMO. Although Lanvin never really went away, I certainly feel like it dropped off the radar after the Alber Elbaz era.

- Delvaux crossed my mind but I'm not sure it needs a revival, plus I see Ramesh going for more of an unknown brand similar to a true revival like Moynat.

-EDIT: I'm also adding H.J. Cave & Sons to the list. My thoughts are if he is sticking with leather goods, most companies founded in the 1800's would be trunk makers or saddleries (assuming he isn't talking about a fashion house).

You are quite knowledgeable about vintage trunk companies. I’m excited to find out more about Ramesh’s whereabouts. If we don’t hear anything before February, I’ll message him again. I wrote about a couple of (TPF stated) wants for his next handbag venture, and he told me his thoughts. What he wrote to me (about six messages/paragraphs) tells me he wants to design classic styles only, no trendy bags, and he is 110% into quality of workmanship. ... And micro bags will not be his thing. I’m excited!

*******update********
I looked at Au Départ’s website. I had forgotten about that company. They have a lot of bag choices. I don’t know if he’d go for a company so close to a Moynat look with so many bags out there. He seems like the type who likes the challenge of starting from scratch.

I can see HJ Cave & Sons being of interest.

 

[savoy85]

You are quite knowledgeable about vintage trunk companies. I’m excited to find out more about Ramesh’s whereabouts. If we don’t hear anything before February, I’ll message him again. I wrote about a couple of (TPF stated) wants for his next handbag venture, and he told me his thoughts. What he wrote to me (about six messages/paragraphs) tells me he wants to design classic styles only, no trendy bags, and he is 110% into quality of workmanship. ... And micro bags will not be his thing. I’m excited!

*******update********
I looked at Au Départ’s website. I had forgotten about that company. They have a lot of bag choices. I don’t know if he’d go for a company so close to a Moynat look with so many bags out there. He seems like the type who likes the challenge of starting from scratch.

I can see HJ Cave & Sons being of interest.

My childhood obsession with trunks (seriously) is finally paying off But in all honesty, when I read "revival" it made me think of the investment company Luvanis who first acquired the rights to Moynat in 2009. I know they revived Au Départ sometime in 2019, and considering they specialize in bringing dormant luxury brands back to life it makes me wonder if they had something up their sleeve that would be appealing to Ramesh.

However, I am SO happy to hear that he stands by classic styles and workmanship (like we had any doubt, but hey...2020 was a doozy). I would love for Ramesh to become a billionaire, buy Moynat from Arnault, and then all will be well again.

 

[Hermesanity]

You are quite knowledgeable about vintage trunk companies. I’m excited to find out more about Ramesh’s whereabouts. If we don’t hear anything before February, I’ll message him again. I wrote about a couple of (TPF stated) wants for his next handbag venture, and he told me his thoughts. What he wrote to me (about six messages/paragraphs) tells me he wants to design classic styles only, no trendy bags, and he is 110% into quality of workmanship. ... And micro bags will not be his thing. I’m excited!

*******update********
I looked at Au Départ’s website. I had forgotten about that company. They have a lot of bag choices. I don’t know if he’d go for a company so close to a Moynat look with so many bags out there. He seems like the type who likes the challenge of starting from scratch.

I can see HJ Cave & Sons being of interest.

Thank you very much for the updates! It will be very exciting to see what Ramesh does next - though we might need to rename this thread to Ramesh Nair. I do find it interesting that he is staunchly against micro bags and one of the first things Moynat rolls out after his departure is the mini Rejane.

I would be really interested in what he does with outerwear too. I feel like the Italian houses have the edge on outwear right now - it would be amazing (but terrible for my bank account) to see something like Brunello Cucinelli with French flair.

 

[Mousy]

My childhood obsession with trunks (seriously) is finally paying off But in all honesty, when I read "revival" it made me think of the investment company Luvanis who first acquired the rights to Moynat in 2009. I know they revived Au Départ sometime in 2019, and considering they specialize in bringing dormant luxury brands back to life it makes me wonder if they had something up their sleeve that would be appealing to Ramesh.

However, I am SO happy to hear that he stands by classic styles and workmanship (like we had any doubt, but hey...2020 was a doozy). I would love for Ramesh to become a billionaire, buy Moynat from Arnault, and then all will be well again.

I looked at Luvanis’ website- the reviver of Sleeping Beauty brand. Oooooooooo! I can see them working with
Ramesh. Maybe Arnault, Sr. will give Moynat a little sister. Some Ramesh v Knightly sibling rivalry?

As for clothing lines- for some reason I’ve developed skin issues with new clothing purchases. I just talked to my brother, who is very clothing brand euro-centric. I just found out the Lycra, Elastane, and other polymers that are in US brand fabrics is formaldehyde based! This is banned in European clothing. My sister-in-law goes back to the EU to visit family and always carries an empty suitcase there, but returns to the US with a full suitcase of German, Scandinavian and French made clothes. They are well made, beautifully designed, and contain no carcinogens. I’m thinking about sending her to Europe with two suitcases next year. Does anyone know if Canada bans chemicals in clothing, and are there really good Canadian brands? I’m sorry for being off subject.

 

[pinkorchid20]

Just FYI I inquired about the Réjane BB and PM and was quoted the old prices (Paris) - 4000€ and 4400€ respectively. I wonder if 24S mixes up the sizes or if it is a glitche. Only the silver hardware Mini costs 4500€, the PM is still shown as 4400€ in either gold or silver hardware, the gold hardware Mini is 4000€. Maybe I can get a confirmation from Paris if there was or will be an official price increase.

 

[Hermesanity]

I looked at Luvanis’ website- the reviver of Sleeping Beauty brand. Oooooooooo! I can see them working with
Ramesh. Maybe Arnault, Sr. will give Moynat a little sister. Some Ramesh v Knightly sibling rivalry?

As for clothing lines- for some reason I’ve developed skin issues with new clothing purchases. I just talked to my brother, who is very clothing brand euro-centric. I just found out the Lycra, Elastane, and other polymers that are in US brand fabrics is formaldehyde based! This is banned in European clothing. My sister-in-law goes back to the EU to visit family and always carries an empty suitcase there, but returns to the US with a full suitcase of German, Scandinavian and French made clothes. They are well made, beautifully designed, and contain no carcinogens. I’m thinking about sending her to Europe with two suitcases next year. Does anyone know if Canada bans chemicals in clothing, and are there really good Canadian brands? I’m sorry for being off subject.

I have no idea what Canadian regulations are but regularly see Mackage and Moose Knuckles in the outerwear section at department stores in the UK (pre-Brexit so EU standards would presumably have applied). Not sure if they create separate lines for non-Canadian markets though. Ssense is also Canadian I believe and carry some EU brands too.

Completely hear you on the different standards between the US and EU. I swear McDonald's chicken nuggets in the the UK/EU tastes different than that in the US.

 

[Mousy]

I have no idea what Canadian regulations are but regularly see Mackage and Moose Knuckles in the outerwear section at department stores in the UK (pre-Brexit so EU standards would presumably have applied). Not sure if they create separate lines for non-Canadian markets though. Ssense is also Canadian I believe and carry some EU brands too.

Completely hear you on the different standards between the US and EU. I swear McDonald's chicken nuggets in the the UK/EU tastes different than that in the US.

I’ve been a vegan for a few years, but I remember McNuggets from several years ago. In the US, McD adds preservatives that they don’t add in the EU- thus the difference in taste. It’s crazy! Even Kraft Foods has carcinogens in their US foods that are banned in the EU. I don’t understand why they just don’t sell the non-carcinogenic Mac and Cheese, and other dried boxed foods, in the US that they sell in the EU. The US is so relaxed in health regulations. I talked to my sister-in-law last night- she said she always feels healthier when she goes ‘home’.
She grew up on a farm on the Poland/Germany border. In Germany, the gov’t subsidizes fresh fruits and vegetables to promote better eating. I guess my daughter experienced the American equivalent when she was younger- a free piece of fruit when we shopped at Whole Foods.

I have a handbag question- I’ve heard sad things about LV’s materials (rubbery leather, hard canvas, ...). If Moynat were to leave the caring arms of Arnault, Sr. and become a full-blooded sibling to LV, Loro Piana, etc., under the parentage of LVMH, would you all still buy, or would you treasure the beautiful Ramesh pre-LVMH treasures you have and look at other private luxury houses?
I think my for Moynat will continue if Knightly produces under the radar classic designs, the bags continue to be made by hand (no sewing machines) and Moynat materials remain the same as Hermès materials. Now the pricing is another issue. We’ll see what the spring line is priced. This waiting until Spring is maddening!

Thank you for the clothing tips!

 

[Mousy]

Just FYI I inquired about the Réjane BB and PM and was quoted the old prices (Paris) - 4000€ and 4400€ respectively. I wonder if 24S mixes up the sizes or if it is a glitche. Only the silver hardware Mini costs 4500€, the PM is still shown as 4400€ in either gold or silver hardware, the gold hardware Mini is 4000€. Maybe I can get a confirmation from Paris if there was or will be an official price increase.

I was wondering about the different prices. I was thinking the seasonal colors were more than the permanent colors, but that isn't the case. I know heir price increases happen in January and February.

 

[pinkorchid20]

I was wondering about the different prices. I was thinking the seasonal colors were more than the permanent colors, but that isn't the case. I know heir price increases happen in January and February.

Quite strange. I am in touch with them so will update to group on what I can find out. They are just a tiny bit slow in responding due to the holidays and everything closed still.

 

[Bagaholic222]

Quite strange. I am in touch with them so will update to group on what I can find out. They are just a tiny bit slow in responding due to the holidays and everything closed still.

I'm not sure whether this has to do with the exchange rate - when I look on the Canadian site of 24s, the price will sometimes fluctuate over a period of time. But the increase seems to be more than the exchange ???

 

[Panthere2015]

I hope to purchase my first Rejane very soon. I’m looking for one in a greenish or greyish blue. I just saw a cardholder in boreal green on 24S. Does anyone know if the Rejane comes in this colour?

 

[Hermesanity]

I’ve been a vegan for a few years, but I remember McNuggets from several years ago. In the US, McD adds preservatives that they don’t add in the EU- thus the difference in taste. It’s crazy! Even Kraft Foods has carcinogens in their US foods that are banned in the EU. I don’t understand why they just don’t sell the non-carcinogenic Mac and Cheese, and other dried boxed foods, in the US that they sell in the EU. The US is so relaxed in health regulations. I talked to my sister-in-law last night- she said she always feels healthier when she goes ‘home’.
She grew up on a farm on the Poland/Germany border. In Germany, the gov’t subsidizes fresh fruits and vegetables to promote better eating. I guess my daughter experienced the American equivalent when she was younger- a free piece of fruit when we shopped at Whole Foods.

I have a handbag question- I’ve heard sad things about LV’s materials (rubbery leather, hard canvas, ...). If Moynat were to leave the caring arms of Arnault, Sr. and become a full-blooded sibling to LV, Loro Piana, etc., under the parentage of LVMH, would you all still buy, or would you treasure the beautiful Ramesh pre-LVMH treasures you have and look at other private luxury houses?
I think my for Moynat will continue if Knightly produces under the radar classic designs, the bags continue to be made by hand (no sewing machines) and Moynat materials remain the same as Hermès materials. Now the pricing is another issue. We’ll see what the spring line is priced. This waiting until Spring is maddening!

Thank you for the clothing tips!

Getting back on topic, i don't know if my brand loyalty can survive much LVMH-fication. I had been taught from a young age to only buy something if you can see yourself using it 5, if not 10 years down the line. Quality that is quiet and discreet over quantity, even if that quality costs more at the outset. You can see how the fast fashion invasion of luxury houses does not mesh well with this philosophy

Same as you, I hope Knightly continues to provide the quality we have become used to under Ramesh. I think his previous designs show he has potential but I'll need to see how he manages to execute them. As for prices, we shall see. I personally think it would be toeing the edge of hubris if they raise the prices to be close to H-levels. As much as M wants to be the H alternative, they are still very much apples and oranges in many respects.

 

[Mousy]

I hope to purchase my first Rejane very soon. I’m looking for one in a greenish or greyish blue. I just saw a cardholder in boreal green on 24S. Does anyone know if the Rejane comes in this colour?

I’ll try to find out to tomorow.

 

[Panthere2015]

Thank you, Sourisbrune.

 

[ebyaya]

Quite strange. I am in touch with them so will update to group on what I can find out. They are just a tiny bit slow in responding due to the holidays and everything closed still.

Is it because of taxes and duties?