Official MOYNAT Thread

[savoy85]

EDIT: Sorry for the formatting mess of this post! My first time trying to use multi-quote

I have a handbag question- I’ve heard sad things about LV’s materials (rubbery leather, hard canvas, ...). If Moynat were to leave the caring arms of Arnault, Sr. and become a full-blooded sibling to LV, Loro Piana, etc., under the parentage of LVMH, would you all still buy, or would you treasure the beautiful Ramesh pre-LVMH treasures you have and look at other private luxury houses?
I think my for Moynat will continue if Knightly produces under the radar classic designs, the bags continue to be made by hand (no sewing machines) and Moynat materials remain the same as Hermès materials. Now the pricing is another issue. We’ll see what the spring line is priced. This waiting until Spring is maddening!

I think the quality of products in more mainstream luxury houses (Chanel, LV, etc) has certainly decreased overall in the past decade, and I truly hope Moynat does not follow suit. I agree with you and will continue to follow Moynat under Knightly unless we start to see a decline in quality with an increase in price. Maybe I should start praying to the bag gods now...

Getting back on topic, i don't know if my brand loyalty can survive much LVMH-fication. I had been taught from a young age to only buy something if you can see yourself using it 5, if not 10 years down the line. Quality that is quiet and discreet over quantity, even if that quality costs more at the outset. You can see how the fast fashion invasion of luxury houses does not mesh well with this philosophy

Yes, yes, and more yes to this! I echo your sentiments exactly.

Something else I would like to add is that IMO, Moynat connoisseurs are not to be underestimated in terms of detecting quality change. Ramesh-era pieces will serve as a baseline for fabrication, design, materials, etc., and I think many will be keeping a keen eye on what is to come in 2021.

 

[Gainoffunction]

Is it weird that we haven't yet seen any new designs from Moynat? They did the logo tote and the nano rejane.

I feel like when Hedi took over at celine there were brand new styles almost immediately.

Is this normal? I know there is covid and holidays. But it's been 6 months and nothing really "new". Just selling off the old product and rejiggering current designs. Am I crazy in thinking this is odd?

 

[pinkorchid20]

Is it because of taxes and duties?

I am in Europe and I can see the price difference between the 2 listings. I was again quoted 4000 for the Rejane BB with gold hardware today and am waiting to hear back if the price of 4500 I see on 24S is a mistake or if something will be coming up. There obviously was no price increase on January 1st, otherwise they would have quoted more.

 

[mizuwari18]

Wanted to get some third-party opinions if it's all right. I want to finally add the rejane BB to my collection and (after much delay due to covid) finally went into the store to check out the color selections in person. It seemed, though, that there was only one stock left of the rejane in the size and color I wanted and it was a floor model. It looked in pretty good condition, but I'm wondering if I should wait since it's a style and color that isn't being discontinued? But at the same time I'm wondering about potential price increases and change in quality with the new ownership... Would appreciate any and all thoughts!

 

[kipp]

Wanted to get some third-party opinions if it's all right. I want to finally add the rejane BB to my collection and (after much delay due to covid) finally went into the store to check out the color selections in person. It seemed, though, that there was only one stock left of the rejane in the size and color I wanted and it was a floor model. It looked in pretty good condition, but I'm wondering if I should wait since it's a style and color that isn't being discontinued? But at the same time I'm wondering about potential price increases and change in quality with the new ownership... Would appreciate any and all thoughts!

I'd say that if you thought the floor model was in good enough condition for you to not be bothered by it, I'd take it. Especially if it's the only one in the universe (did the store check if this was the case, though it sounded from your post like they did)...
I would be very surprised if the price will not go up. I'd also be concerned whether quality will be the same and whether that color if it's not black or taupe will be easily available going forward--you might not want to pay for a special order. But that's just me.
I'll be curious what others here have to say.

BTW, I love my rejane BB (black with gold hardware) and expect you will love your BB too, whenever you get it!

 

[Mousy]

Wanted to get some third-party opinions if it's all right. I want to finally add the rejane BB to my collection and (after much delay due to covid) finally went into the store to check out the color selections in person. It seemed, though, that there was only one stock left of the rejane in the size and color I wanted and it was a floor model. It looked in pretty good condition, but I'm wondering if I should wait since it's a style and color that isn't being discontinued? But at the same time I'm wondering about potential price increases and change in quality with the new ownership... Would appreciate any and all thoughts!

I’d buy the floor model. Moynat tends to have price increases in January/February, and nothing is guaranteed right now. Enjoy!

 

[Mousy]

Is it weird that we haven't yet seen any new designs from Moynat? They did the logo tote and the nano rejane.

I feel like when Hedi took over at celine there were brand new styles almost immediately.

Is this normal? I know there is covid and holidays. But it's been 6 months and nothing really "new". Just selling off the old product and rejiggering current designs. Am I crazy in thinking this is odd?

I was thinking the same thing.
I know of one change Moynat has done that might’ve slowed down a new release, but not to this extent. This wait is horrible for the company. Putting out that new tote and a Nano bag will not pay the bills.
I know they are going for a whole new look and vibe, but this is painfully drawn-out.

 

[littleunicorn]

Wanted to get some third-party opinions if it's all right. I want to finally add the rejane BB to my collection and (after much delay due to covid) finally went into the store to check out the color selections in person. It seemed, though, that there was only one stock left of the rejane in the size and color I wanted and it was a floor model. It looked in pretty good condition, but I'm wondering if I should wait since it's a style and color that isn't being discontinued? But at the same time I'm wondering about potential price increases and change in quality with the new ownership... Would appreciate any and all thoughts!

Personally from memory, Moynat changes their display quite often so even if one is a floor model, it probably didn't stay that much time on the floor, also customer wise they are not the super busy type of store so the bag might not be "touched" or "show" that much especially with the covid situation.

However if you are not sure, depends on what the "only one left" means - this store or the world?
If it's referring to the store itself, maybe ask for a world search to see if there is any other available anywhere else?

If this end up to be the only available worldwide, and it is in pretty good condition, I think I would take it.
The usual annual price increases is one reason and the post-Ramesh quality concern and future availability is another.

I know of one change Moynat has done that might’ve slowed down a new release, but not to this extent. This wait is horrible for the company. Putting out that new tote and a Nano bag will not pay the bills.

Doesn't mean to be wicked, but when I saw "Putting out that new tote and a Nano bag will not pay the bills", my first reaction was: thats why they bring out the sales? and doing it TWICE?

 

[konacoffee]

I'm not caught up with the thread yet, but I just got my Rejane BB in black and gold at $4800 (USA). That was Jan 2.

Not sure what is happening to the prices, but the SA said the future of all the lines except the Rejane and Gabrielle is uncertain. He said he doesn't think Moynat will get rid of the Gaby, but nothing is certain.

I also saw a few more Fleurs and Limousines while I was there, but didn't stay too long. He also mentioned new boxes and bags are on the way.

 

[bagnut1]

He also mentioned new boxes and bags are on the way.

Glad that the new regime has priorities in order!

 

[pinkorchid20]

So Paris is very vague about any potential price increase. I have specifically asked several times now but haven’t really received a confirmation. I am sorry.

I also want to share that it might be worth asking for any special offers at this point, there might be bundles available. I know the sale was a hot topic causing concerns on the side of many long-standing customers but just want to point it out. I am not sharing any specifics as I don’t know if the offer I received was store specific, but it seems they still try to get rid of old stock (this may include classic models but in non-regular leathers).

 

[mizuwari18]

I'd say that if you thought the floor model was in good enough condition for you to not be bothered by it, I'd take it. Especially if it's the only one in the universe (did the store check if this was the case, though it sounded from your post like they did)...
I would be very surprised if the price will not go up. I'd also be concerned whether quality will be the same and whether that color if it's not black or taupe will be easily available going forward--you might not want to pay for a special order. But that's just me.
I'll be curious what others here have to say.

BTW, I love my rejane BB (black with gold hardware) and expect you will love your BB too, whenever you get it!

I’d buy the floor model. Moynat tends to have price increases in January/February, and nothing is guaranteed right now. Enjoy!

Personally from memory, Moynat changes their display quite often so even if one is a floor model, it probably didn't stay that much time on the floor, also customer wise they are not the super busy type of store so the bag might not be "touched" or "show" that much especially with the covid situation.

However if you are not sure, depends on what the "only one left" means - this store or the world?
If it's referring to the store itself, maybe ask for a world search to see if there is any other available anywhere else?

If this end up to be the only available worldwide, and it is in pretty good condition, I think I would take it.
The usual annual price increases is one reason and the post-Ramesh quality concern and future availability is another.

Appreciate all the insights! Extremely helpful and reassuring. I'm going to contact the store again. I believe it was the only one in store (not the whole world) since they had to go to the stock room twice and looked around the floor for a few minutes before they remembered where they put it. Fingers crossed!

 

[mizuwari18]

I'm not caught up with the thread yet, but I just got my Rejane BB in black and gold at $4800 (USA). That was Jan 2.

Not sure what is happening to the prices, but the SA said the future of all the lines except the Rejane and Gabrielle is uncertain. He said he doesn't think Moynat will get rid of the Gaby, but nothing is certain.

I also saw a few more Fleurs and Limousines while I was there, but didn't stay too long. He also mentioned new boxes and bags are on the way.

Good to know there hasn't been a price increase yet! I went the last week of December and the price was still the same. One of the SAs told me that Moynat has "high leather quality like Loewe but pricing more along the lines of Chanel." (I was wearing a Loewe bag at the time). I found that humorous. I think she was just trying to talk about Moynat's prestige lending to its price point, but based on my bias I was also thinking about Chanel's recent quality issues.

 

[Mousy]

Good to know there hasn't been a price increase yet! I went the last week of December and the price was still the same. One of the SAs told me that Moynat has "high leather quality like Loewe but pricing more along the lines of Chanel." (I was wearing a Loewe bag at the time). I found that humorous. I think she was just trying to talk about Moynat's prestige lending to its price point, but based on my bias I was also thinking about Chanel's recent quality issues.

Ummmmm, Moynat‘s leather is that of Hermès.

 

[bagnut1]

Good to know there hasn't been a price increase yet! I went the last week of December and the price was still the same. One of the SAs told me that Moynat has "high leather quality like Loewe but pricing more along the lines of Chanel." (I was wearing a Loewe bag at the time). I found that humorous. I think she was just trying to talk about Moynat's prestige lending to its price point, but based on my bias I was also thinking about Chanel's recent quality issues.

OMG. Loewe as comparison?

Can I ask which boutique this SA is with?