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I think it should work for you if you get one in a soft leather, as the top of the bag will slouch downwards.
When it's straight across, about 9":
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With the top slouched down, 11":
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Thank you so much for the pics! I think the drop with the top slouched down would be perfect. Perhaps in an Aquila Matte with a contrasting color for the handle. The details on the handle are really something....
 
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I want to say yes to the Midi for the reasons you listed. But, I also don't because I know in my heart I really want the full-size. I've had two previous bags in a similar design (flat, fold-over bags) in a similar size to the regular Sabrina, and they fit at least my everyday items just fine, and I didn't feel it ruined the aesthetic of the flatter design. The water bottle is the only thing that might be called into question, but if the water bottle doesn't work, I can live with that. I just don't think the midi Sabrina will fit even my everyday items, not because of depth (which is a minimal difference), but because of the overall size. And while it's true that the midi would be an amazing party bag, but I have no need for an evening or party bag. I know I want the full-size. I just really hate the idea of Marco incurring the cost for a new order of skins (and, of course, and a bit worried a new order won't be the same shade of Persian Green). :sad:
You have a valid concern about color variations between different lots. There‘s nothing he can do about it, but it has happened quite a few times with his leathers
 
I believe so, that means if I were to keep the strap as it is, I would have to colourblock the inner and outer leathers of the same flap, rather than colourblock across flaps. That way, I can show off the colourblocked effect when shoulder carrying, while also retaining the clean exterior look when it's used as a clutch.
If I had thought this bag through, I would have done this particular colorblocking. Maybe the next Sabrina...

I did store my Sabrina on the flap side overnight and the flap does lie flat now, more or less. So I'm hopeful. Also, I could attach a little chain to both hooks. As it is now, the fattest part of the clip hits the flap resulting in the raised flap. Not sure if I explained that correctly, but if the chain idea works, I'll post a picture.
 
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Gorgeous! And they do make the best crossbody bags ...did u get leather straps also? Its a 25 euro upcharge but i akways get leather straps now, it can really change the look of the bag, plus its more comfortable depending on how much you are carrying

Thanks @jbags07. Yes! I did get leather straps for each of the Floras. They were free as there was no upcharge fee because I ordered leather instead of standard chain straps. I didn't need both because I have many chain straps from my MM Flora collection (no, don't ask! I confess I have sooooo many!). So, if I wanted a chain strap, I would just grab one of those. The Africa leathers are so special in person, and they are so sturdy so they don't need special care in my experience.
 
Another thought..
10 skins from the tannery... 10 full skins??? Isn't that leather for...40 - 50 bags!?
And Marco's business is struggling to survive.... Several Italian families rely on income from his company.

While we can afford to buy one lovely handbag after the other.

There will be more bags to fall in love with...

If 10 skins means leather for 10 bags, I would not worry.
If 10 skins means leather for 20 - 30 - 40 - 50 bags, I'd suggest reconsidering the importance of your Sabrina ;).

He said 10 skins would be 20 bags. And here in lies my conflict. I don't want to place the burden of the additional cost on Marco. But at the same time, I don't want to purchase a bag that won't really get used. And I really don't see the midi getting used more than *maybe* a once or twice a year. I know how entitled it sounds to say, "I paid for it, I deserve to get what I ordered", but honestly, a part of me does kind of feel that way. I know these are just bags - certainly there are far more important things in life. But bags are also something that I need to plan and budget for as each bag I purchase is a large personal expense to me. And, I started placing orders with Marco, yes because of all the options and quality and lovely interactions with him, but also because he IS a small, struggling business, so it sucks that I'm now in a position where I either don't get the bag I ordered or I do at a cost to him. This bag, in particular, was the one I was most excited for so that just adds to the whole suckiness of it.

I feel so so torn because on one hand, I don't want to be the reason for a large, extra expense to Marco. On the other hand, I placed my order correctly and paid for it but now, because of a situation that is not my fault, I am left with the choice of taking a bag that is not what I wanted, ordered, and paid for OR insisting that the mistake be fixed and knowing that doing so will require a small, struggling business to incur extra expenses.

Like I said, mistakes happen, and Marco's CS is amazing. I know if I decided it's full size or nothing, he'll place that order. But I will feel so guilty for that. And yet, the other options just aren't what I want or ordered. So it's either get what I want and feel guilty or settle for something that is not what I want or will use very much and feel good about not making MM incur the expense but feel bad that I've spent my own money on something that I wasn't actually what I ordered.

You have a valid concern about color variations between different lots. There‘s nothing he can do about it, but it has happened quite a few times with his leathers
And yet, here's another reason NOT to make him place that order for new skins - even if he does, there is a real possibility for color variation. So, it seems like I should just take the midi. But, I just don't see the midi fulfilling my needs.

I sent Marco that photo of my everyday items for his opinion on whether or not the midi would fit them. At this point, I'll take it even if it won't fit my "extras". Unfortunately, I'm fairly certain it won't even fit my everyday essentials, but wouldn't it be nice if I were wrong?
 
Hi all, l‘m thinking about getting a mini Zhoe for my first Massaccesi. After reading through some of this tread l feel really excited about the whole concept of customising a bag. I love the idea of picking the bag style, leather, hardware and additional customisations, it is so cool and can give you something really individual and special. I have no idea if this is taking customisations too far or if it is even advisable (please let me know what you think), but l’m really loving the use of jacqard like fabrics at the moment (I have a Fendi with a jacqard like fabric on my wishlist at the moment) and so l wonder if it would be possible to have a splash of a jacquard type fabric on the front of the bag? I was originally thinking about something like that for the interior and then wondered if it could go on the outside?

Anyway, l’m thinking that for it to work it would need to be sewn onto a piece leather (and possibly glued/bonded to stop it moving) to give it a firm base and keep the bags structure intact. I’ve assembled a couple of ideas using the app Procreate of potential Mini Zhoe customisations. I was originally going for an autumn bag but the third bag kind of shouts ‘spring’.

Please help me choose a design out of the ones attached. If you’ve asked Marco to attach some fabric to a bag before then please let me know now successful it was and l’d love to see some pics. If you think it is a terrible idea please also let me know. I suppose my greatest worry is that it will cheapen the look of the bag? Once l’ve picked a design (assuming it’s not a terrible idea that l need to be talked out of) then l’ll contact Marco and see what he says.

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My white box has arrived!

First up is my first straw bag, and also first sample bag. I didn't even know what lining or hardware it was made of, I just grabbed it! I still don't know what lining it is... First thoughts: Midi Hera is a comfortable shoulder bag, and I love the handle attachment! Being used to leather bags, this straw bag feels incredibly lightweight. I didn't know why I was expecting it to be stiff or scratchy, but it is actually soft and drapey. I'm a little bit worried about getting dirt on it though, I have no idea how to clean a straw bag.

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Next up is Little Athena in Coral Red Africa RT. This is my first red bag! I'm still not sure what I can wear it with. Are matching shoes and bag still a rule? Leather smells amazing and I love the Africa texture on a structured bag with clean lines.
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I found a surprise MM Pendant in the pocket of my Midi Hera. I am checking with Marco if it is meant to be for me, or if it was left in there by accident. In any case, I was inspired by this post to try using it to bling up one of my Penelopes with the same hardware colour: https://forum.purseblog.com/threads/massaccesi-handbags.878845/post-32604741

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Each of your bags is so lovely. I'm curious about the midi-Hera and what it looks like when worn (hint). I would have thought the straw would be scratchy too, so glad to hear that it is soft. Marco said you can actually wipe straw clean fairly easily with something like Windex (I would probably test this somewhere discreet first) when I was considering a straw bag and shared your concerns about dirt.

That coral red Athena is really stunning. I don't have any of the RT Africa leather but I love the texture it adds to the Athena bag. it's sort of like pebbled leather meets a dressier version of itself.

And that purple penny is totally wow.
 
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He said 10 skins would be 20 bags. And here in lies my conflict. I don't want to place the burden of the additional cost on Marco. But at the same time, I don't want to purchase a bag that won't really get used. And I really don't see the midi getting used more than *maybe* a once or twice a year. I know how entitled it sounds to say, "I paid for it, I deserve to get what I ordered", but honestly, a part of me does kind of feel that way. I know these are just bags - certainly there are far more important things in life. But bags are also something that I need to plan and budget for as each bag I purchase is a large personal expense to me. And, I started placing orders with Marco, yes because of all the options and quality and lovely interactions with him, but also because he IS a small, struggling business, so it sucks that I'm now in a position where I either don't get the bag I ordered or I do at a cost to him. This bag, in particular, was the one I was most excited for so that just adds to the whole suckiness of it.

I feel so so torn because on one hand, I don't want to be the reason for a large, extra expense to Marco. On the other hand, I placed my order correctly and paid for it but now, because of a situation that is not my fault, I am left with the choice of taking a bag that is not what I wanted, ordered, and paid for OR insisting that the mistake be fixed and knowing that doing so will require a small, struggling business to incur extra expenses.

Like I said, mistakes happen, and Marco's CS is amazing. I know if I decided it's full size or nothing, he'll place that order. But I will feel so guilty for that. And yet, the other options just aren't what I want or ordered. So it's either get what I want and feel guilty or settle for something that is not what I want or will use very much and feel good about not making MM incur the expense but feel bad that I've spent my own money on something that I wasn't actually what I ordered.


And yet, here's another reason NOT to make him place that order for new skins - even if he does, there is a real possibility for color variation. So, it seems like I should just take the midi. But, I just don't see the midi fulfilling my needs.

I sent Marco that photo of my everyday items for his opinion on whether or not the midi would fit them. At this point, I'll take it even if it won't fit my "extras". Unfortunately, I'm fairly certain it won't even fit my everyday essentials, but wouldn't it be nice if I were wrong?
You are clearly being so considerate of his business, but I don't think you should feel pressured to buy a bag that you don't think you will use. It was their mistake and Marco is acknowledging that. I do wonder if there might be interest from people in the Persian green after seeing some lovely reveals of it. maybe he could even offer a promo? No easy answers, clearly.
 
He said 10 skins would be 20 bags. And here in lies my conflict. I don't want to place the burden of the additional cost on Marco. But at the same time, I don't want to purchase a bag that won't really get used. And I really don't see the midi getting used more than *maybe* a once or twice a year. I know how entitled it sounds to say, "I paid for it, I deserve to get what I ordered", but honestly, a part of me does kind of feel that way. I know these are just bags - certainly there are far more important things in life. But bags are also something that I need to plan and budget for as each bag I purchase is a large personal expense to me. And, I started placing orders with Marco, yes because of all the options and quality and lovely interactions with him, but also because he IS a small, struggling business, so it sucks that I'm now in a position where I either don't get the bag I ordered or I do at a cost to him. This bag, in particular, was the one I was most excited for so that just adds to the whole suckiness of it.

I feel so so torn because on one hand, I don't want to be the reason for a large, extra expense to Marco. On the other hand, I placed my order correctly and paid for it but now, because of a situation that is not my fault, I am left with the choice of taking a bag that is not what I wanted, ordered, and paid for OR insisting that the mistake be fixed and knowing that doing so will require a small, struggling business to incur extra expenses.

Like I said, mistakes happen, and Marco's CS is amazing. I know if I decided it's full size or nothing, he'll place that order. But I will feel so guilty for that. And yet, the other options just aren't what I want or ordered. So it's either get what I want and feel guilty or settle for something that is not what I want or will use very much and feel good about not making MM incur the expense but feel bad that I've spent my own money on something that I wasn't actually what I ordered.


And yet, here's another reason NOT to make him place that order for new skins - even if he does, there is a real possibility for color variation. So, it seems like I should just take the midi. But, I just don't see the midi fulfilling my needs.

I sent Marco that photo of my everyday items for his opinion on whether or not the midi would fit them. At this point, I'll take it even if it won't fit my "extras". Unfortunately, I'm fairly certain it won't even fit my everyday essentials, but wouldn't it be nice if I were wrong?
You show real character being so concerned about Marco! This is not an easy decision. Hugs
 
Dear @dramaprincess713, of course you should not settle for taking a bag that is not what you want or ordered. As far as I can see, there is a 3rd option,- A full refund.

Your Sabrina dream really has become a bit of a nightmare, I feel so sorry for you.

Might be an idea to tell Marco to give you a couple of weeks to make your decision. Then give yourself a 1-2 week break from the dilemma :sleepy: Your subconcious will continue the process. Then, in a couple of weeks time, you will probably just KNOW what solution is the right one for you :facepalm:.
 
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Hi all, l‘m thinking about getting a mini Zhoe for my first Massaccesi. After reading through some of this tread l feel really excited about the whole concept of customising a bag. I love the idea of picking the bag style, leather, hardware and additional customisations, it is so cool and can give you something really individual and special. I have no idea if this is taking customisations too far or if it is even advisable (please let me know what you think), but l’m really loving the use of jacqard like fabrics at the moment (I have a Fendi with a jacqard like fabric on my wishlist at the moment) and so l wonder if it would be possible to have a splash of a jacquard type fabric on the front of the bag? I was originally thinking about something like that for the interior and then wondered if it could go on the outside?

Anyway, l’m thinking that for it to work it would need to be sewn onto a piece leather (and possibly glued/bonded to stop it moving) to give it a firm base and keep the bags structure intact. I’ve assembled a couple of ideas using the app Procreate of potential Mini Zhoe customisations. I was originally going for an autumn bag but the third bag kind of shouts ‘spring’.

Please help me choose a design out of the ones attached. If you’ve asked Marco to attach some fabric to a bag before then please let me know now successful it was and l’d love to see some pics. If you think it is a terrible idea please also let me know. I suppose my greatest worry is that it will cheapen the look of the bag? Once l’ve picked a design (assuming it’s not a terrible idea that l need to be talked out of) then l’ll contact Marco and see what he says.

Interesting! Personally, I like the first two options: fabric on the side. I like the blue one the best. I only have one Mini Zhoe, I love it & use it a lot in non-Covid times. Keep in mind that it is considered a smallish bag, I use it for day errands, shopping, lunch. Be sure to message Marco and see what he suggests and if he can do it. I do remember someone on this thread sent him their fabric to be used inside the bag.

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He said 10 skins would be 20 bags. And here in lies my conflict. I don't want to place the burden of the additional cost on Marco. But at the same time, I don't want to purchase a bag that won't really get used. And I really don't see the midi getting used more than *maybe* a once or twice a year. I know how entitled it sounds to say, "I paid for it, I deserve to get what I ordered", but honestly, a part of me does kind of feel that way. I know these are just bags - certainly there are far more important things in life. But bags are also something that I need to plan and budget for as each bag I purchase is a large personal expense to me. And, I started placing orders with Marco, yes because of all the options and quality and lovely interactions with him, but also because he IS a small, struggling business, so it sucks that I'm now in a position where I either don't get the bag I ordered or I do at a cost to him. This bag, in particular, was the one I was most excited for so that just adds to the whole suckiness of it.

I feel so so torn because on one hand, I don't want to be the reason for a large, extra expense to Marco. On the other hand, I placed my order correctly and paid for it but now, because of a situation that is not my fault, I am left with the choice of taking a bag that is not what I wanted, ordered, and paid for OR insisting that the mistake be fixed and knowing that doing so will require a small, struggling business to incur extra expenses.

Like I said, mistakes happen, and Marco's CS is amazing. I know if I decided it's full size or nothing, he'll place that order. But I will feel so guilty for that. And yet, the other options just aren't what I want or ordered. So it's either get what I want and feel guilty or settle for something that is not what I want or will use very much and feel good about not making MM incur the expense but feel bad that I've spent my own money on something that I wasn't actually what I ordered.


And yet, here's another reason NOT to make him place that order for new skins - even if he does, there is a real possibility for color variation. So, it seems like I should just take the midi. But, I just don't see the midi fulfilling my needs.

I sent Marco that photo of my everyday items for his opinion on whether or not the midi would fit them. At this point, I'll take it even if it won't fit my "extras". Unfortunately, I'm fairly certain it won't even fit my everyday essentials, but wouldn't it be nice if I were wrong?
As someone else said, get the bag you want. If Marco is offering to get more leather so he can make the bag you want, and you want the bag, just do it. It is part of doing business. The Persian Green Metallic is a show-stopper leather. If Marco adds it as a special leather and markets it, he will sell it. I have a bag in this leather, and if he ends up buying more, I will probably buy another bag in that leather. It is such a special leather. Get the bag you want!
 
He said 10 skins would be 20 bags. And here in lies my conflict. I don't want to place the burden of the additional cost on Marco. But at the same time, I don't want to purchase a bag that won't really get used. And I really don't see the midi getting used more than *maybe* a once or twice a year. I know how entitled it sounds to say, "I paid for it, I deserve to get what I ordered", but honestly, a part of me does kind of feel that way. I know these are just bags - certainly there are far more important things in life. But bags are also something that I need to plan and budget for as each bag I purchase is a large personal expense to me. And, I started placing orders with Marco, yes because of all the options and quality and lovely interactions with him, but also because he IS a small, struggling business, so it sucks that I'm now in a position where I either don't get the bag I ordered or I do at a cost to him. This bag, in particular, was the one I was most excited for so that just adds to the whole suckiness of it.

I feel so so torn because on one hand, I don't want to be the reason for a large, extra expense to Marco. On the other hand, I placed my order correctly and paid for it but now, because of a situation that is not my fault, I am left with the choice of taking a bag that is not what I wanted, ordered, and paid for OR insisting that the mistake be fixed and knowing that doing so will require a small, struggling business to incur extra expenses.

Like I said, mistakes happen, and Marco's CS is amazing. I know if I decided it's full size or nothing, he'll place that order. But I will feel so guilty for that. And yet, the other options just aren't what I want or ordered. So it's either get what I want and feel guilty or settle for something that is not what I want or will use very much and feel good about not making MM incur the expense but feel bad that I've spent my own money on something that I wasn't actually what I ordered.


And yet, here's another reason NOT to make him place that order for new skins - even if he does, there is a real possibility for color variation. So, it seems like I should just take the midi. But, I just don't see the midi fulfilling my needs.

I sent Marco that photo of my everyday items for his opinion on whether or not the midi would fit them. At this point, I'll take it even if it won't fit my "extras". Unfortunately, I'm fairly certain it won't even fit my everyday essentials, but wouldn't it be nice if I were wrong?
Aww you’ve obviously spent a lot of time thinking about this! However, 20 large bags/30 little bags/who knows how many slgs on an out there colour...honestly I would just ask for a refund. Saves everyone the stress: you on the bag you don’t want/ Marco on selling skins that might not attract everyone. Let us know what you do decide to do!
 
Hi all, l‘m thinking about getting a mini Zhoe for my first Massaccesi. After reading through some of this tread l feel really excited about the whole concept of customising a bag. I love the idea of picking the bag style, leather, hardware and additional customisations, it is so cool and can give you something really individual and special. I have no idea if this is taking customisations too far or if it is even advisable (please let me know what you think), but l’m really loving the use of jacqard like fabrics at the moment (I have a Fendi with a jacqard like fabric on my wishlist at the moment) and so l wonder if it would be possible to have a splash of a jacquard type fabric on the front of the bag? I was originally thinking about something like that for the interior and then wondered if it could go on the outside?

Anyway, l’m thinking that for it to work it would need to be sewn onto a piece leather (and possibly glued/bonded to stop it moving) to give it a firm base and keep the bags structure intact. I’ve assembled a couple of ideas using the app Procreate of potential Mini Zhoe customisations. I was originally going for an autumn bag but the third bag kind of shouts ‘spring’.

Please help me choose a design out of the ones attached. If you’ve asked Marco to attach some fabric to a bag before then please let me know now successful it was and l’d love to see some pics. If you think it is a terrible idea please also let me know. I suppose my greatest worry is that it will cheapen the look of the bag? Once l’ve picked a design (assuming it’s not a terrible idea that l need to be talked out of) then l’ll contact Marco and see what he says.

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@Snowshoe42 Opps! I posted that previous reply in a hurry! Your idea is interesting! Personally, I like the first two options: fabric on the side. I like the blue one the best. (But then, I love blue bags!) I only have one Mini Zhoe, I love it & use it a lot in non-Covid times. Keep in mind that it is considered a smallish bag, I use it for day errands, shopping, lunch. Be sure to message Marco and see what he suggests and if he can do it. I do remember someone on this thread sent him their fabric to be used inside the bag. You might keep in mind which part of the bag would be less likely to be soiled? the sides or the top flap? Good luck with your idea!
 
He said 10 skins would be 20 bags. And here in lies my conflict. I don't want to place the burden of the additional cost on Marco. But at the same time, I don't want to purchase a bag that won't really get used. And I really don't see the midi getting used more than *maybe* a once or twice a year. I know how entitled it sounds to say, "I paid for it, I deserve to get what I ordered", but honestly, a part of me does kind of feel that way. I know these are just bags - certainly there are far more important things in life. But bags are also something that I need to plan and budget for as each bag I purchase is a large personal expense to me. And, I started placing orders with Marco, yes because of all the options and quality and lovely interactions with him, but also because he IS a small, struggling business, so it sucks that I'm now in a position where I either don't get the bag I ordered or I do at a cost to him. This bag, in particular, was the one I was most excited for so that just adds to the whole suckiness of it.

I feel so so torn because on one hand, I don't want to be the reason for a large, extra expense to Marco. On the other hand, I placed my order correctly and paid for it but now, because of a situation that is not my fault, I am left with the choice of taking a bag that is not what I wanted, ordered, and paid for OR insisting that the mistake be fixed and knowing that doing so will require a small, struggling business to incur extra expenses.

Like I said, mistakes happen, and Marco's CS is amazing. I know if I decided it's full size or nothing, he'll place that order. But I will feel so guilty for that. And yet, the other options just aren't what I want or ordered. So it's either get what I want and feel guilty or settle for something that is not what I want or will use very much and feel good about not making MM incur the expense but feel bad that I've spent my own money on something that I wasn't actually what I ordered.


And yet, here's another reason NOT to make him place that order for new skins - even if he does, there is a real possibility for color variation. So, it seems like I should just take the midi. But, I just don't see the midi fulfilling my needs.

I sent Marco that photo of my everyday items for his opinion on whether or not the midi would fit them. At this point, I'll take it even if it won't fit my "extras". Unfortunately, I'm fairly certain it won't even fit my everyday essentials, but wouldn't it be nice if I were wrong?
I think you should get what you ordered or get a refund. If Marco orders more of the Persian Green and has a promo, I would definitely order a bag in it and it looks like from the comments that others may order, too.
 
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